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#2051 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] firefox-esr update » 2019-06-20 23:24:18

OMG!  Not another thread about this . . .

#2052 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-06-20 19:36:47

I won't be venturing there either.   smile  I'm just the messenger . . .

#2053 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-06-20 02:19:59

Thanks for taking a look.  That actually surprised me so good for you!

There are some other ideas here:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 89.en.html

But the real issue is somewhere here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3

#2055 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-18 03:06:37

Speculation is not useful; it's a foolish pastime.  We have a lot of work to do before we can even begin to sort those issues.  It's best to just put one foot in front of the other in the present moment and we'll get there eventually.

#2056 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-16 23:19:50

@jitterssnowpaw . . . I have moderated your meltdown posts to a hidden area to spare you the public embarrassment.  sgage has given you some ideas to de-stress.  You are welcome to continue when you have regained your composure.

Ah, just saw your last post.  Goodby then.  That is also an option.  Take care . . .

#2057 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-16 22:54:07

List of banned Debian packages.  Some may never be decontaminated of systemd.

List of Devuan packages.  Not all of them are systemd-related.

#2058 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-16 19:36:26

tmartins wrote:

So, I'm curious and genuinely asking: what's exactly the point of Devuan?

Perhaps to make Debian great again.  Just imagine what Debian would look like if Devuan did not exist.  Shudder . . .

#2060 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] DSA-4462-1 dbus -- security update » 2019-06-14 21:53:22

Already done.  Some early technical discussion HERE.

#2061 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-14 21:44:13

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So two maintainers have left then?

More than 2 Debian devs hang out with Devuan.  And no . . . I'm not going to list names.   wink

#2062 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] DSA-4462-1 dbus -- security update » 2019-06-14 21:33:32

Nili wrote:

I'm glad if Dbus will be devuanized. I don't like to have libsystemd0 installed.

libsystemd0 is no longer present in beowulf thanks to changes in libelogind.

#2063 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-14 21:30:28

Or Debian will come to its senses by allowing init freedom at installation and requiring packages to support all init options.

#2065 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Display manager issue » 2019-06-12 06:07:19

Have you read the Release Notes?  Plenty of tips in there that might help you sort this.  Those notes are for ascii.  I guessed because you didn't specify which release you were on.

#2066 Re: Devuan » Clarification of the relationship between Dyne and Devuan » 2019-06-09 16:51:31

Ron wrote:
stanz wrote:

My next donation will not go thru dyne! We'll chat about that one day.  tongue

Is there another way?

There is not afaik.

#2067 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Is "apt autoremove" still trustworthy (as it used to be)? » 2019-06-08 19:24:28

I can confirm all of the above.   When in a mood HoaS can be an equal opportunity offender who "blesses" many forums with his presence.  His track record on this forum to date has actually been fairly benign compared to what has happened elsewhere.  I also know that there can be no offense if none is taken.  Let it be like water on a duck's back.  I'm all for "free speech" but if things get too disruptive, there is always the big, red "time out" button.  wink

#2068 Re: Off-topic » Google search gives DEVUAN as DEAD ? » 2019-06-07 22:08:15

I don't imagine many on this forum use google directly and I have never seen verbatim on DDG or SP.

#2070 Re: Off-topic » Google search gives DEVUAN as DEAD ? » 2019-06-07 15:59:41

ComputerBob wrote:

In your Google search, put the word "Devuan" in quote marks.

That too.  There are quite a few "operators" but recently seem to be ignored at times.  Google just wants to feed me what they think I should see.  It's frustrating.

#2071 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-07 04:18:57

Hi Ozi .  .  . long time no see.  Isn't backports already pinned in ascii?  I use it so rarely, I've never checked if that's the case but that's what I've heard.

#2072 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-07 01:46:30

jitterssnowpaw wrote:

Ok how do I add backports to my sources.list I'm lost.

https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list

#2073 Re: Off-topic » Google search gives DEVUAN as DEAD ? » 2019-06-06 23:33:34

Check your settings.  There should be options regarding the predictive paramaters that best suit you.  And while you say "Google" I hope you aren't using that directly.  Both DuckDuckGo and StartPage neuter some of the more egregious aspects of unfiltered Google searches.

#2074 Devuan » Clarification of the relationship between Dyne and Devuan » 2019-06-06 23:19:37

golinux
Replies: 12

Every Devuan user should read this.  It is quite informative and yes, jaromil, we now have a clear picture of where Dyne is coming from.  Thank you!

On 2019-06-06 02:33, Jaromil wrote:
[snip] . . .  Devuan is not an organisation, a company, a
corporation or an IT management dept; but a community driven
GNU+Linux distribution where we are all unpaid volunteers devolving
free time in exchange of quality (both on the technical level and the
human interaction).

From the lesson Katolaz thought us I learned that the good spirit of
volunteers is definitely more important than the distro, that noone
should be pushed or held accountable or stressed about problems about
Devuan: because our distro will simply not work well and be in need of
someone to find time or someone new to step in on his/her own will.

This is why Devuan comes without any warranty, nor explicit or
implied. If we'd have more resources as a community (in terms of
donations, but also time of people perhaps partly covered by
companies) we would certainly change that, but all things standing now
we all have other commitments and if "it works for me" then I have no
urge to fix, I'd rather make sure everyone is in good health and
enjoys doing what we are doing, even if the repos are down for two
months
.

This is now my attitude. If anyone needs more then please contact us
at devuan.pro and someone will provide you professional support and
99% availability at a fair price. Also please mind that I'm saying
this while investing a *lot* of resources (in money and time) of the
organisation I'm leading (Dyne.org) on Devuan GNU+Linux and on top of
that we also need to maintain priority and peace of mind among
co-workers of our organisation.

I now really hope people have a clear picture of the situation on my
side of the pond when they interact with us at Dyne.org about problems
in Devuan.

ciao

Archived here

#2075 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-05-31 23:25:05

jitterssnowpaw wrote:

So can I like add the regular Debian repo's and get the software from there like the latest wine and all that cause I want to install Lutris and play LoL

Do not use Debian repos directly.  Devuan already pulls from the Debian repos via redirect that filters out stuff that would cause breakage.  Have you looked in backports?

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