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#1926 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-06-28 19:04:24

Reopening this thread to see if it can stay on-topic and away from the irrelevancies of  political ideology.

#1927 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-06-27 18:42:56

Going to close this as it is never going to be useful for anything.  Political opinions never are . . .

#1928 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-27 02:51:46

There is also a post about this from last month on riseup.net and this was the reply:

Crossbill replied... 2019-05-08

Hello,

We are working on a debian package of riseup-vpn, its getting close to being done. I suspect that this could be installed and used without systemd.

crossbill

I have requested a notification if this package ever gets finished.

#1929 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-27 01:00:58

Hi penguin and welcome to devuan.  I got that email from riseup.net today also.  Unfortunately snapd is on devuan's banned package list.  So unless someone removes that dependency and repackages there is no way to install without systemd.  And that may not even be possible.

#1930 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] firefox-esr update » 2019-06-20 23:24:18

OMG!  Not another thread about this . . .

#1931 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-06-20 19:36:47

I won't be venturing there either.   smile  I'm just the messenger . . .

#1932 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-06-20 02:19:59

Thanks for taking a look.  That actually surprised me so good for you!

There are some other ideas here:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 89.en.html

But the real issue is somewhere here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3

#1934 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-18 03:06:37

Speculation is not useful; it's a foolish pastime.  We have a lot of work to do before we can even begin to sort those issues.  It's best to just put one foot in front of the other in the present moment and we'll get there eventually.

#1935 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-16 23:19:50

@jitterssnowpaw . . . I have moderated your meltdown posts to a hidden area to spare you the public embarrassment.  sgage has given you some ideas to de-stress.  You are welcome to continue when you have regained your composure.

Ah, just saw your last post.  Goodby then.  That is also an option.  Take care . . .

#1936 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-16 22:54:07

List of banned Debian packages.  Some may never be decontaminated of systemd.

List of Devuan packages.  Not all of them are systemd-related.

#1937 Re: Devuan » Init system support in Debian » 2019-06-16 19:36:26

tmartins wrote:

So, I'm curious and genuinely asking: what's exactly the point of Devuan?

Perhaps to make Debian great again.  Just imagine what Debian would look like if Devuan did not exist.  Shudder . . .

#1939 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] DSA-4462-1 dbus -- security update » 2019-06-14 21:53:22

Already done.  Some early technical discussion HERE.

#1940 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-14 21:44:13

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So two maintainers have left then?

More than 2 Debian devs hang out with Devuan.  And no . . . I'm not going to list names.   wink

#1941 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] DSA-4462-1 dbus -- security update » 2019-06-14 21:33:32

Nili wrote:

I'm glad if Dbus will be devuanized. I don't like to have libsystemd0 installed.

libsystemd0 is no longer present in beowulf thanks to changes in libelogind.

#1942 Re: Off-topic » The quality of systemd on Debian » 2019-06-14 21:30:28

Or Debian will come to its senses by allowing init freedom at installation and requiring packages to support all init options.

#1944 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Display manager issue » 2019-06-12 06:07:19

Have you read the Release Notes?  Plenty of tips in there that might help you sort this.  Those notes are for ascii.  I guessed because you didn't specify which release you were on.

#1945 Re: Devuan » Clarification of the relationship between Dyne and Devuan » 2019-06-09 16:51:31

Ron wrote:
stanz wrote:

My next donation will not go thru dyne! We'll chat about that one day.  tongue

Is there another way?

There is not afaik.

#1946 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Is "apt autoremove" still trustworthy (as it used to be)? » 2019-06-08 19:24:28

I can confirm all of the above.   When in a mood HoaS can be an equal opportunity offender who "blesses" many forums with his presence.  His track record on this forum to date has actually been fairly benign compared to what has happened elsewhere.  I also know that there can be no offense if none is taken.  Let it be like water on a duck's back.  I'm all for "free speech" but if things get too disruptive, there is always the big, red "time out" button.  wink

#1947 Re: Off-topic » Google search gives DEVUAN as DEAD ? » 2019-06-07 22:08:15

I don't imagine many on this forum use google directly and I have never seen verbatim on DDG or SP.

#1949 Re: Off-topic » Google search gives DEVUAN as DEAD ? » 2019-06-07 15:59:41

ComputerBob wrote:

In your Google search, put the word "Devuan" in quote marks.

That too.  There are quite a few "operators" but recently seem to be ignored at times.  Google just wants to feed me what they think I should see.  It's frustrating.

#1950 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-06-07 04:18:57

Hi Ozi .  .  . long time no see.  Isn't backports already pinned in ascii?  I use it so rarely, I've never checked if that's the case but that's what I've heard.

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