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Freedom is a double edged sword so actions should be chosen with care.
This is the Devuan forum, not Reddit. Just FYI.
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Welcome to the forum starbreaker! Just one quick note about sources.list designations in Devuan. Since we are not always in sync with Debian releases, it is safer to use Codenames rather than Suite names. I not sure that "unstable" is filtered for banned packages so ceres might be safer. It's all explained on this page.
Nice to see that you're using gemini and your sig is oh, so true.
Welcome to those who have expressed an interest in packaging for Devuan! Below are a few links that will help to get you oriented.
Contributing to Devuan should answer basic questions you might have.
The Devuan Packaging Guide provides an overview of the packaging process.
The following statement from the above document clarifies our policy regarding systemd unit files and/or libsystemd0:
. . . the current policy is not to fork a package only to remove systemd unit files and/or libsystemd0 dependencies. Further details on this and the rationale behind it can be found in this forum post by KatolaZ.
Please contribute your questions/proposals to this forum. Also join us on the #devuan-dev channel at irc.libera.chat and subscribe to the Devuan Developers list.
Is this spreadshirt site officially approved by Devuan? Do you get part of the profits?
I don't know about any financial reimbursement to Devuan but there is a "Devuan Merchandise" link to that site on https://www.devuan.org/os/explore in the "Community" links. There were plenty of these shirts at the Devuan Conference in 2019.
That gives me a headache to think about. Communication of information is not as important as understanding incoming sensory data and our responses to it. Those responses define who we become so best understand how those reactive patterns impact our lives and others for better or worse. Life is about being a better human not processing complex external data. That's just a distracting head trip.
Seems like a snake oil scam to me.
Code is posted all over the internet. That is no guarantee of quality or affiliation with a project.
The derivatives vetted by Devuan are posted at:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=9
Welcome to the forum, jurgis.
Have you read this post about Xevuan? The distro seems to be changing to voidlinux. It is not an officially recognized Devuan derivative and the above thread is the only information that we have. Hopefully someone here can help you get the locales sorted but the Xevuan dev might be a better place to ask..
You might also want to check out the Devuan derivatives. Some of them have a very small footprint.
Totally agree andy, was not my intention to start anything political or religious. All i was pointing out is that history is repeating itself again in a new world.
If this surprises you, you haven't been paying attention.
Humans never seem to learn . . . at least about the things that matter . . .
golinux wrote:It might have been better to post separate threads for each issue. I suspect that this thread will become hopelessly confused . . .
I hope I can handle a volume of concentrated posts. Not sure about others though. What bugs me so far is my unfamiliarity with the new system + terminology coupled with conflicting/varied opinions/tutorials and the terrible state of search engines nowadays.
The image I am getting of your quest is of someone who doesn't know how to swim trying to learn by jumping off a high board into the deeps of a very large lake.
It might have been better to post separate threads for each issue. I suspect that this thread will become hopelessly confused . . .
refractasnapshot. Devuan "live" installation isos are created using it. It's in the repos and more info at refracta.org
@dice . . . and there you have it in a nutshell. Made my morning. The absurdity of it all . . .
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My apologies for that off handed remark, i didn't realise ocd was a form of mental illness.
All humans suffer from the "metal illnesses" of greed, hated and delusion. IMO, there is no need to tiptoe around that. It is irrelevant that deluded Western "therapists" just have to assign a name and acronym for every quirk on the gamut when they themselves are equally "defective", each in their own way. The naming only excuses certain behavior. Would be nice if we could own and remove our own defects rather than pointing the finger elsewhere. Sadly, self-examination is not a popular activity in the West and thick skins are in increasingly short supply these days . . .
Are you sure you aren't confusing the minimal-live and desktop-live isos
Is there a live iso with an actual desktop?
Yes. The desktop-live.
All available isos are described at https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan The two you mentioned are quite different:
desktop-live (1.2 GB): Explore the default Xfce desktop before installing. Then install easily and quickly from the live session using the refractainstaller. Firmware is installed but can easily be removed.
minimal-live (~460 MB): A full-featured, console-based recovery tool with a focus on accessibility for visually-impaired and blind users. Uses the refractainstaller.
Did it ever exist? Perhaps my memory is failing but I don't remember ever hearing of DevuanDog . . .
All things are impermanent. ![]()
Maybe a hardware issue?
Welcome to Devuan and thank you for your offer to improve Devuan's language accessibility. Translations were discussed internally several years ago when several "official" and a few unofficial translations popped up. Eventually all those efforts disappeared. Why? The problem with human translation is that the site is not static and to keep on top of the changes requires constant attention. That being said, perhaps it's time for Devuan to revisit the possibility of providing translations.
I believe that the answer is in this README.
Your assessment is correct. We are Debian without systemd. If someone wants to port, package and maintain MythTV, it could reside in our git but unlikely to become part of our main distribution.
Devuan is not blocking access but it is recommended that users not use pkgmaster directly because it can impede updating of the devuan mirrors. Maybe try deb.devuan.org or pick a specific mirror from the mirror list.