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#1401 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-08 14:28:01
It's a shame that some here don't want to understand
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Exactly. And never the 'twain shall meet. Religious zealotry doesn't work very well. As the old adage says so wisely . . . you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
I've been around Linux for a while. My first Linux installation (Redhat) was done at a local Linux "installfest" almost 20 years ago. That was years before Fedora or Ubuntu etc.. Sadly, most LUGs have gone the way of the dodo including mine in a city awash in tech. Times changed and getting people together at a specific time and physical location no longer worked. Then older members died one after the other. Then the LUG mailing list died in part because there were so many diverse options popping up online.
In all the years since then, not one of my Windows- or Mac-using friends has taken an interest in Linux despite their dissatisfaction with what they were/are using. And these are well-educated, intelligent, professional people. The one victory I had was to get a sensitive mail list off of google and on to riseup but it took years before they figured out why it was a good thing to do.
I am old. I am tired. The world spins on in its own way.
But hey, everybody needs a hobby so go for it. Experience is the best if not the only teacher . . .
#1402 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-07 00:04:54
Excellent point Dutch_Master. Add to that list the International Space Station and scientific research labs around the world and . . .
JSM is lobbying for Linux to coddle the "idiots and droolers" with something named "Linux" but which would in inevitably become "the same opaque, backdoored, user-tracking bullshit that Windows and Mac have become".
FWIW, that website makes me want to puke. The list of "Corporate Sponsors" says it all . . .
#1403 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-06 18:06:18
@Altoid . . . perhaps "uninformed" would have been a better choice than "stupid".
It seems that jsm has never read Christopher Barry's Open letter to the Linux World. Perhaps he will understand Linux better if he chooses to do so. Alert . . . not PG 13 . . .
Those who think Linux should cater to idiots and droolers should go back to their Macs and Windoze boxen, and stop trying to 'fix' Linux. It wasn't fucking broken!
#1404 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-06 01:27:15
@Altoid (and others) . . . Censorship is a slippery slope. This post may be stupid and irrelevant but until the OP figures that out and kindly marks it as "solved", just try to ignore it. FWIW . . . I find it a bit embarrassing also. Devuan is better than this . . .
#1405 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-04 17:55:59
Freedom is a double edged sword so actions should be chosen with care.
#1406 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-04 15:35:15
This is the Devuan forum, not Reddit. Just FYI.
+1
#1407 Re: Documentation » [Success Story] Installing Devuan 3.1 (Beowulf) » 2021-06-04 04:45:04
Welcome to the forum starbreaker! Just one quick note about sources.list designations in Devuan. Since we are not always in sync with Debian releases, it is safer to use Codenames rather than Suite names. I not sure that "unstable" is filtered for banned packages so ceres might be safer. It's all explained on this page.
Nice to see that you're using gemini and your sig is oh, so true.
#1408 Packaging for Devuan » The Basics of Devuan Package Maintenance » 2021-05-31 03:45:21
- golinux
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Welcome to those who have expressed an interest in packaging for Devuan! Below are a few links that will help to get you oriented.
Contributing to Devuan should answer basic questions you might have.
The Devuan Packaging Guide provides an overview of the packaging process.
The following statement from the above document clarifies our policy regarding systemd unit files and/or libsystemd0:
. . . the current policy is not to fork a package only to remove systemd unit files and/or libsystemd0 dependencies. Further details on this and the rationale behind it can be found in this forum post by KatolaZ.
Please contribute your questions/proposals to this forum. Also join us on the #devuan-dev channel at irc.libera.chat and subscribe to the Devuan Developers list.
#1409 Re: Off-topic » Devuan Swag » 2021-05-25 16:35:31
Is this spreadshirt site officially approved by Devuan? Do you get part of the profits?
I don't know about any financial reimbursement to Devuan but there is a "Devuan Merchandise" link to that site on https://www.devuan.org/os/explore in the "Community" links. There were plenty of these shirts at the Devuan Conference in 2019.
#1410 Re: Off-topic » Do you know jOS? » 2021-05-22 01:46:24
That gives me a headache to think about. Communication of information is not as important as understanding incoming sensory data and our responses to it. Those responses define who we become so best understand how those reactive patterns impact our lives and others for better or worse. Life is about being a better human not processing complex external data. That's just a distracting head trip.
#1411 Re: Off-topic » Do you know jOS? » 2021-05-21 20:53:03
Seems like a snake oil scam to me.
#1412 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Xevuan locales » 2021-05-18 19:17:58
Code is posted all over the internet. That is no guarantee of quality or affiliation with a project.
The derivatives vetted by Devuan are posted at:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=9
#1413 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Xevuan locales » 2021-05-18 18:21:38
Welcome to the forum, jurgis.
Have you read this post about Xevuan? The distro seems to be changing to voidlinux. It is not an officially recognized Devuan derivative and the above thread is the only information that we have. Hopefully someone here can help you get the locales sorted but the Xevuan dev might be a better place to ask..
#1414 Re: Installation » low memory installation » 2021-05-18 07:07:21
You might also want to check out the Devuan derivatives. Some of them have a very small footprint.
#1415 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2021-05-13 15:13:28
Totally agree andy, was not my intention to start anything political or religious. All i was pointing out is that history is repeating itself again in a new world.
If this surprises you, you haven't been paying attention. 
Humans never seem to learn . . . at least about the things that matter . . .
#1416 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 20:44:47
golinux wrote:It might have been better to post separate threads for each issue. I suspect that this thread will become hopelessly confused . . .
I hope I can handle a volume of concentrated posts. Not sure about others though. What bugs me so far is my unfamiliarity with the new system + terminology coupled with conflicting/varied opinions/tutorials and the terrible state of search engines nowadays.
The image I am getting of your quest is of someone who doesn't know how to swim trying to learn by jumping off a high board into the deeps of a very large lake.
#1417 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Questions on Setting Up Hardware/Software on a New Devuan System » 2021-05-12 18:31:19
It might have been better to post separate threads for each issue. I suspect that this thread will become hopelessly confused . . .
#1418 Re: DIY » Creating a Custom Devuan Iso with Preinstalled Packages » 2021-05-10 18:08:18
refractasnapshot. Devuan "live" installation isos are created using it. It's in the repos and more info at refracta.org
#1419 Re: Off-topic » ${THEY} continue crippling browsers... » 2021-05-06 16:02:18
@dice . . . and there you have it in a nutshell. Made my morning. The absurdity of it all . . .
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#1420 Re: Off-topic » ${THEY} continue crippling browsers... » 2021-05-06 02:47:40
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My apologies for that off handed remark, i didn't realise ocd was a form of mental illness.
All humans suffer from the "metal illnesses" of greed, hated and delusion. IMO, there is no need to tiptoe around that. It is irrelevant that deluded Western "therapists" just have to assign a name and acronym for every quirk on the gamut when they themselves are equally "defective", each in their own way. The naming only excuses certain behavior. Would be nice if we could own and remove our own defects rather than pointing the finger elsewhere. Sadly, self-examination is not a popular activity in the West and thick skins are in increasingly short supply these days . . .
#1421 Re: Installation » networking » 2021-05-05 02:57:51
Are you sure you aren't confusing the minimal-live and desktop-live isos
#1422 Re: Installation » networking » 2021-05-04 22:18:26
Is there a live iso with an actual desktop?
Yes. The desktop-live.
All available isos are described at https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan The two you mentioned are quite different:
desktop-live (1.2 GB): Explore the default Xfce desktop before installing. Then install easily and quickly from the live session using the refractainstaller. Firmware is installed but can easily be removed.
minimal-live (~460 MB): A full-featured, console-based recovery tool with a focus on accessibility for visually-impaired and blind users. Uses the refractainstaller.
#1423 Re: Devuan » DevuanDog » 2021-04-26 16:00:14
Did it ever exist? Perhaps my memory is failing but I don't remember ever hearing of DevuanDog . . .
#1424 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-22 23:50:22
All things are impermanent. 
#1425 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-22 22:57:07
Maybe a hardware issue?
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