I made another Refracta iso, and this one seems to work.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … 5_1335.iso

sha256sum:

f0989b9b31899ced549741c4373c43d73252f47c2500f0ed6168235bc041fc44  refracta10-beta3_xfce_amd64-20200515_1335.iso

Changes:
- edited lvm.conf in initrd and live system
- disabled lxdm in runlevel 3. Boot to console by adding '3' to the boot command.
- added the following code to /etc/rc.local to remove/insert psmouse kernel module. This did not work when added to live-config scripts. Maybe it was too early.

modprobe -rv psmouse
modprobe -v psmouse

With a Refracta DVD, I can ssh in when it gets to the desktop. I tried several things to get mouse and keyboard to work.

All of the following failed:
- restart lxdm
- restart eudev
- restart dbus
- disable autologin in lxdm and restart it
- init 1, ctrl-d

What does work:
- modprobe -r psmouse && modprobe psmouse   (I don't even need to kill the desktop and restart it for this to work)

Yeah, beowulf is ready - it's just the installation media we're struggling with. I've been using beowful since the beginning of this year.

The Refracta isos use lxdm, and the input problem exists there, too.

Editing /etc/lvm/lvm.conf in the initramfs gets rid of the repeated udev warnings on boot.
Editing /etc/lvm/lvm.conf in the live system gets rid of the repeated udev warnings on shutdown.

Replacing xserver-xorg-input-libinput with xserver-xorg-input-evdev didn't help the mouse/keyboard problem.

I've considered removing lvm2 and mdadm, but they're nice to have if you're using the live-iso as a rescue system or if you want to go to the trouble of manually setting up lvm or raid to install from the live. (It's possible, just not obvious.) And they were added in ascii by request from the community. Disabling lvm in runlevel 2 didn't fix the problem. But editing lvm.conf in both places did get rid of the messages.

Thanks for the detailed testing and report. Not exactly sure what I'll try next. Something tomorrow.

I'm not sure what to do about this, but I'm quoting it to remind me about it.

Meanwhile, the changes to the initramfs that I made did not actually get applied, and I'm not sure why. I may have to do that part manually.

Anyway...   beta-#*@%ing-4 coming soon.

Check /var/log/apt/history.log to see if you recently replaced consolekit with elogind. That would explain how it worked before without being a member of the netdev group.

Please give more details about what you did so that someone can reproduce it.

I'm not seeing it in my ceres installation. Everything says Devuan 4 ceres except /etc/issue, which still says 3.

Was this originally a jessie installation that got upgraded?

Wireless firmware is installed in the live isos partly for testing that it works with your hardware and partly so that we're not bombarded with questions about how to get wireless working. There's a script to remove all the non-free firmware if you don't want it, and deb packages are included in case you need to reinstall one. (See the included README file.)

The reason non-free and contrib are not enabled in sources.list is so that people who don't want non-free won't accidentally install anything from there.

Oh, you are my hero, Phil. Nice find!

I made a test refracta iso because it's easier to include a custom initrd, and it seems to fix the issue. DVD boots without the udev warnings or any other delays, and then I have no mouse or keyboard on the desktop. Plugging a mouse into the laptop wakes up the trackpad and the keyboard. Plugging in a usb flash drive does not wake up the inputs.

Test iso is here:
https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/ … 7_1346.iso

sha256sum:

f527940265e4dff0b7b807611e1ebb96fc870ab03e505a4bb52c70b9aa5fefaf  refracta10-beta2+_xfce_amd64-20200507_1346.iso

Here is what I changed in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf inside initrd.img:

devices {
    # Disable scanning udev for md/multipath components.
    # This is required with recent versions of lvm2, even if you use another solution for
    # your LV device nodes; without it lvm commands will stall for minutes waiting for udev.
    multipath_component_detection = 0
    md_component_detection = 0
}
activation {
    # Set to 0 to disable udev synchronisation (if compiled into the binaries).
    udev_sync = 0
    # Set to 0 to disable the udev rules installed by LVM2
    udev_rules = 0
}

Reference: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Custom_Initramfs#LVM

To get rid of those repeating udev warnings, I tried (and failed) disabling lvm. Made a new snapshot and booted it from DVD. It booted without the repeated warnings. Instead, I got them on shutdown, and whenever it reached the end of the list, it would start over.

It's the device mapper that's doing this, but I don't know what calls it or how it's called. It appears to be confused.

Fixed in beta3. Thanks!!!

I got nano and network commands with the no-mirror install using the amd64 beta3 netinstall iso.