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#1277 Re: Installation » upgrade to chimaera » 2020-06-05 16:11:50

Just this in sources.list. There's no -security or -updates (or anything else) for chimaera or ceres. You could add contrib and non-free if you want.

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main

#1278 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2020-06-05 10:42:14

Here's a copy of patched /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks-functions for beowulf:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/cryptsetu … -functions
This will eventually be packaged and added to the devuan repo.

#1279 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » AmaroK » 2020-06-05 10:15:52

There's no amarok in buster, therefore there is no amarok in beowulf. Try stevepusser's build. I recommend downloading the packages to install manually rather than adding a foreign repo.
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … dd5b92d7be

#1280 Hardware & System Configuration » AMDGPU-PRO 20.10 on Devuan Beowulf with an AMD RX5600 » 2020-06-04 16:44:22

fsmithred
Replies: 6

From nemo in #devuan on freenode irc:

AMDGPU-PRO 20.10 on Devuan Beowulf with an AMD RX5600

The fundamental problem is that the open source drivers, even in Beowulf Backports do not appear to yet support this released card. AMD *does* have a closed source driver for Debian. It has a few gotchas however that I'll try to document here.

The first is that their installer checks for a "legit" debian based distro. For them, that's an ID of debian, mint, or ubuntu (this was an improvement over 16.40 that only supported ubuntu). Adding |devuan to the amdgpu-install script in the os_release() section is fairly trivial.

Once that's done, the install proceeds smoothly. It creates a new file repo for the .debs it installed.

The problems start if you attempt to reboot. The symptoms I experienced were that the AMDGPU-PRO 20.10 appears to use a Video ABI of 23 (this is visible on stderr if you startx) and causes crashes in Xorg (visible in log) causing fallback in Xorg and an endless flickering loop probably 'cause kernel has wildly different stuff loaded.

The only fix I could find was to downgrade Xorg from 1.20 to 1.19 to match the video ABI. ascii-xorg.pref does this. You just toss it into your /etc/apt/preferences.d, append deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii main non-free contrib sources.list, and update/upgrade.

The downside. Two meta packages, task-desktop and task-mate-desktop that I had installed (and probably related desktop metas) seem to force depend on 1.20 for some reason (why, no idea - you'd think that'd be a lower dependency if necessary) and have to be removed. This *will* confuse apt autoremove. In my case I was able to manage things by explicitly installing libreoffice.

Once you've done that and rebooted, everything seems to work fine! Graphics are working beautifully, and I assume the pro package lets me play around with ML/opencl stuff too, but haven't tried that yet.

#1281 Re: News & Announcements » Updating Sources to Beowulf stable » 2020-06-01 22:56:57

It's not a bug. It's just that events are happening slightly out of sequence. Official announcement is coming soon. Say yes. If you were already up to date, you won't see any new packages.

#1282 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Beowulf: user login software synaptic and pulseaudio using tor-browser » 2020-06-01 18:31:45

1. Make sure policykit-1-gnome is installed. If that doesn't do it, I'll have more questions about what is or isn't installed.

2. tor-browser requires pulseaudio for sound. If you remove pulseaudio (as I have) you can install and use apulse. I made a panel button to start tor-browser and edited the command to begin with apulse.

3. I've been wishing for years that someone would make a jack plugin for firefox.

#1283 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-31 19:05:34

jfs, xfs, btrfs and all the other usual choices are there in manual partitioning. That option is available in both regular install and expert install. If you're not seeing all the options, check the sha256sum to make sure the download was good.

I just did a no-mirror install from devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_netinstall-amd64.iso onto a new btrfs partition.

#1285 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-30 18:24:31

dev-1-dash-1 wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

(using refracta10-beta5)

So what exactly is refracta-beta5 ?
There were so many of them I am getting confused.

That one does not have the udev fix, but it does have whatever I fixed before that. (mouse, keyboard and ping, I think.) And it has the default log level for udev.

Anyway, I'm making RC2 right now. Put the fix in rc.local because it's less hidden and easier to remove. (live installer has post-install cleanup scripts) If I didn't break anything in the process, these will be the official release isos. Better fix for the udev issue might come with the point-release, which we expect will be soon.

Here's one for now. I'll upload the whole set to the official site when they're all done.
https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/ … p-live.iso

sha256sum:

8225b3d4cc30327f142cbe1584ed100da0d48785c6e105983a64e16f8d620ad4  devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_RC2_amd64_desktop-live.iso

#1286 Re: Installation » Beowful RC Bluetooth still does not work. Grub install UEFI hangs. » 2020-05-30 13:33:20

If you run into problems installing from the live iso, please save refractainstaller.log (in your user's home directory) and paste it somewhere or email it to me. I'm pretty sure it's too big to post it here, but you could try that if you want. Thanks.

#1287 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-30 11:18:47

A few more notes... (using refracta10-beta5)

If I boot to runlevel S or 2 (default), then eudev is running as '/sbin/udevd udevd', but boot to runlevel 1 and eudev is not running.

If I boot to single and then change to runlevel 1,  /sbin/udevd udevd is gone, but the pid file is still present. If I delete the pid file and go to runlevel 2, I got no mouse or keyboard.

#1288 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-30 01:43:53

Last thing: please confirm that my fix works on your machine, not only on mine.

Confirmed. Replacing the stop-start-daemon section with 'udevd -d' fixes it.

#1289 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-29 22:50:00

OK, my head is about to explode from the intersection of two different problems. The Refracta isos already have a patched version of cryptdisks-functions to get rid of the delay during shutdown of encrypted partitions or lvm.

Right now, I'm leaning toward doing the easiest workaround to get beowulf out the door. You've done a lot of good work trying to solve this, and before I go messing with the internals of eudev, I'm gonna try to get the eudev maintainer to chime in on this.

Thanks. Stay tuned.

#1290 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-29 13:21:09

Made another refracta iso and set udev.conf log level to debug.
Uploaded in case anyone wants to play with it.
https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/ … 9_1205.iso

/var/log/boot differences
between boot from dvd (debug1) and boot to ram (toram)

$ diff -u boot_debug1 boot_toram 
--- boot_debug1	2020-05-29 08:50:21.996452335 -0400
+++ boot_toram	2020-05-29 09:00:23.916426416 -0400
@@ -1,53 +1,39 @@
-Fri May 29 12:29:39 2020: [....] Activating swap...??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:39 2020: [....] Creating compatibility symlink from /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts. ...??7[warn8?? (warning).
-Fri May 29 12:29:39 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files... /tmp??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:39 2020: [....] Setting up LVM Volume Groups...no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:0: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:1: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:13: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:2: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:3: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:4: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:5: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b8:6: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b11:0: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:0: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:1: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:2: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:3: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:4: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:5: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:6: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:40 2020: no db file to read /run/udev/data/b7:7: No such file or directory
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: ??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: [....] Checking file systems...fsck from util-linux 2.33.1
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: ??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: [....] Mounting local filesystems...??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: [....] Activating swapfile swap...??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files...??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is ok...done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:41 2020: [....] Starting Setting kernel variables: sysctl??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:42 2020: [....] Configuring network interfaces...??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:43 2020: [....] Starting RPC port mapper daemon: rpcbind??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:44 2020: [....] Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:45 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files...??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:45 2020: [....] Setting up ALSA...??7[ ok 8??done (none loaded).
-Fri May 29 12:29:45 2020: [....] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:45 2020: [....] Setting sensors limits...??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:46 2020: [....] Setting up X socket directories... /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:46 2020: INIT: Entering runlevel: 2
-Fri May 29 12:29:46 2020: [info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2.
-Fri May 29 12:29:46 2020: [....] Starting acpi_fakekey daemon...??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:47 2020: [....] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:47 2020: [....] Setting up console font and keymap...??7[ ok 8??done.
-Fri May 29 12:29:49 2020: [....] Starting LVM2 poll daemon: lvmpolld??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:49 2020: [....] Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:50 2020: [....] Starting ACPI services: acpid??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:50 2020: [....] Starting anac(h)ronistic cron: anacron??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:50 2020: [....] Starting periodic command scheduler: cron??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:50 2020: [....] Starting system message bus: dbus??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:50 2020: [....] Starting session management daemon: elogind??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:51 2020: [....] Starting MTA: exim4??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:54 2020: [....] Starting X display manager: lxdm??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:55 2020: [....] Starting MD monitoring service: mdadm --monitor??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:56 2020: [....] Starting SANE network scanner server: saned??7[ ok 8??.
-Fri May 29 12:29:59 2020: [....] Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Activating swap...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Creating compatibility symlink from /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts. ...??7[warn8?? (warning).
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files... /tmp??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Setting up LVM Volume Groups...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Checking file systems...fsck from util-linux 2.33.1
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: ??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Mounting local filesystems...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Activating swapfile swap...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:26 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files...??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: Running 0dns-down to make sure resolv.conf is ok...done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Starting Setting kernel variables: sysctl??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Configuring network interfaces...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Starting RPC port mapper daemon: rpcbind??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Cleaning up temporary files...??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Setting up ALSA...warning: 'alsactl -E HOME=/run/alsa restore' failed with error message 'No state is present for card PCH
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC269VB" "HDA:10ec0269,1179fc14,00100100 HDA:80862806,1179fc14,00100000" "0x1179" "0xff1e"
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: Hardware is initialized using a generic method
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: No state is present for card PCH'...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Setting sensors limits...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [....] Setting up X socket directories... /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: INIT: Entering runlevel: 2
+Fri May 29 12:59:27 2020: [info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting acpi_fakekey daemon...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Setting up console font and keymap...??7[ ok 8??done.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting LVM2 poll daemon: lvmpolld??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting ACPI services: acpid??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting anac(h)ronistic cron: anacron??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting periodic command scheduler: cron??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting system message bus: dbus??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting session management daemon: elogind??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:28 2020: [....] Starting MTA: exim4??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:29 2020: [....] Starting X display manager: lxdm??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:29 2020: [....] Starting MD monitoring service: mdadm --monitor??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:29 2020: [....] Starting SANE network scanner server: saned??7[ ok 8??.
+Fri May 29 12:59:29 2020: [....] Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd??7[ ok 8??.

sha256sum:

fe75f6ebca01501b16e6558d8b51acfb63b72c40f11ab17900775dc3dc4f88f8  refracta10+debug_xfce_amd64-20200529_1205.iso

#1291 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-27 18:26:30

I thought about changing the log level. Still might do that to see what's going on.

Phil,

Is there no sound because sound modules didn't get loaded, or is it something else?
lsmod |grep snd

Also, make sure you stop and start the daemon in separate actions when you boot to single user.

#1292 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-27 15:50:00

I did something similar - added to /etc/rc.local the following line:

/etc/init.d/eudev stop && /etc/init.d/eudev start

and it works. Here's a test iso:
https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/ … 7_1508.iso

sha256sum

59aea5d5075815f07f34cae046dc618a9ce99de78c2b737f8db36bd447cf8674  refracta10+stopstart_xfce_amd64-20200527_1508.iso

It's odd that using "stop" and "start" for eudev works, but using "restart" does not.

#1293 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-26 01:07:41

We are getting closer, thanks!

Boot to single user, give root password,
stop and start eudev is enough.

Adding kvm group is not necessary.

#1294 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] CPU frequency scaling on Devuan Beowulf RC » 2020-05-25 21:44:57

There' s cpufrequtils which will allow you to set the governor and/or frequency. Apparently, the kernel does some frequency scaling on its own these days, but there may be times you want to override that.

There's also cpulimit which will let you limit the amount of cpu(s) that a particular process or program can use. I use that to keep from overheating a laptop when mksquashfs is running.

Both are command-line tools and are easy to use.

#1295 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-05-24 12:25:58

The FAT partition needed for UEFI is for the EFI bootloaders. This is not the same as a separate /boot partition. A good reference for UEFI bootloaders is Rod's Books.
https://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/index.html

If you let the installer do the partitioning, it should give you what you need. (Note: the live installer doesn't do any partitioning for you. Only the installer isos do that.)

#1296 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-05-24 11:57:36

Adding CRYPTSETUP=y to /usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf-hooks.d/cryptsetup isn't exactly including it manually. This just specifies that cryptsetup will be added automatically if the root filesystem itself is encrypted.

Setting CRYPTSETUP=y will cause cryptsetup to be added to the initramfs if the root filesystem is NOT encrypted. (just tested this to be sure.) If root is encrypted, it'll be added without this setting. The wording in the comment for this setting suggests that in the future, it will be added if cryptsetup is installed, regardless of the root filesystem.

I use this setting in some live isos so that they can be used on a live-usb with an encrypted volume for full persistence.

You can check if the initramfs contains cryptsetup by running 'lsinitramfs' (from initramfs-tools-core package)

CRYPTSETUP=y

$ lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-9-amd64 | grep cryptsetup

usr/lib/cryptsetup
usr/lib/cryptsetup/askpass
usr/lib/cryptsetup/functions
usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcryptsetup.so.12
usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcryptsetup.so.12.4.0
usr/sbin/cryptsetup

I commented out that setting, ran 'update-initramfs -u' and re-checked with lsinitramfs. None of the above listed files were present.

#1297 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » System Specifications Of Users Systems? » 2020-05-21 18:45:49

P1 (586) is no longer supported by debian kernels. The i386 ascii minimal-live iso has a plain 686 (non-pae) kernel which should work on a Pentium Pro or better.

#1298 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-21 18:08:15

The problems I've mentioned in this thread are specific to the live images. I think the only unsolved problem at this point is that the sound modules and some others don't get loaded every time you boot.

This may or may not be significant: The usb stick that had the failure was the no-name one I got for free. When I used one that I bought in a store, it worked. (A 16gb PNY)

#1299 Re: Installation » Beowulf install » 2020-05-20 19:20:24

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Can you boot to a console by adding 4 as a kernel command line parameter?

That would be unlikely. Adding s or single would work better. (i.e. would be different from 2-5)

There should be a boot menu entry for 'Recovery mode' which will do the same thing.

#1300 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Can live isos be burned to optical media? » 2020-05-20 19:06:11

Thanks for testing i386. I hadn't gotten around to doing that.

Update:

I tried the amd64 iso on a different usb stick, and it works. (snd modules are loaded)

Then I tried the i386 iso on the usb stick that failed with the amd64. It works. (snd loaded)

Then I made a dvd of the i386 and the sound modules did not get loaded.

Oh yeah, booting the amd64 iso in qemu and checking how many modules get loaded with lsmod | wc -l gives me different numbers on different reboots. Sometimes sound is loaded, sometimes not.

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