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#76 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA: Dogmatism and Empiriokritizismus » 2025-09-26 00:16:37

I'm not sure what you take issue with... perhaps just that documentation on the web is old?

Otherwise I think one of the confusing aspects of ALSA configuration changes is that in general any program that use the audio system will end up loading an instantiating a configuration structure internally only once, when it starts. Therefore, such programs need restart after a change to the configuration source files, which include the user's .asoundrc file.

Though, a program may of course have been made to reload the configuration, and in that case such a program will do so as programmed and then rebuild the internal configuration structure from that on file.

I would suggest that old and bad documentation can only be remedied by writing new and better documentation; grumbling about what's existing and discussing it's badness is just waste of time.

#78 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » (alsa) changin soundcard easily via terminal » 2025-09-22 13:18:54

Yes, and one thing that is confusing with ALSA is that programs typically loads the sound configuration only once, early during startup. Therefore such a change to the configuration only takes effect for programs that are started after the change.

There is a way to make a configuration have a dynamic part, to be automatically reloaded upon every sink (or source) creation instead, but then we are entering a deeper level of understanding of ALSA configuration structure and elements which most people rather wish to avoid.

#79 Re: Installation » Cant do upgrade Dadedalus to Ceres » 2025-09-22 11:43:52

@igorzwx: this dance is getting tedious. Please don't push me to use the "Ban User" dialog.

#80 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Strange directories in root » 2025-09-20 22:52:20

Hmm I have a /.cache with two sub directories

drwx------  2 root root 4096 Jun 17 01:15 mesa_shader_cache
drwx------ 52 root root 4096 Jun 17 01:15 mesa_shader_cache_db

and then some directory tree down to pairs of files. All of that created and modified at that one time. Presumably mine belongs to some "mesa" package.

#83 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan (fresh install) noticeably slow compared to debian » 2025-09-13 05:11:08

So you are saying that sway+wayland on devuan (of some version) is or seems to be noticeable slower than something else on something else? ...???

Obviously one must ask: what on what was the baseline? And in what way do you notice that loss in speed?

#84 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] wifi doesn't work (N100 processors) » 2025-09-13 01:00:14

What do you get from rfkill  ? (you might need to install it).

#85 Re: Other Issues » Alsa errors during boot of Excalibur » 2025-09-06 23:09:15

Did you try

find /usr /var /etc -name '*90?alsa?restore?std*'

The file is somewhere.

You should also check

dpkg -S 90-alsa_restore_std

to see where it comes from.

#86 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] OpenRC Woes » 2025-09-06 09:11:26

@rwall, add some double-quotes, and make that line 17 be

if [ ! -e "${RC_SVCDIR}/softlevel" ]; then

and then you won't have that problem (at least).

#87 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-24 16:05:01

I don't understand how you get to http://mirror.mephi.ru/devuan/devuan/di … backports/ from your sources.list ... and what relevance that has here

I'm (also) using the same list:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free

and don't have any problem.

# apt-get update
Get:1 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports InRelease [26.5 kB]  
Get:2 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main all Packages [176 kB]
Get:3 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 Packages [408 kB]
Get:4 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main Translation-en [370 kB]
Get:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease [33.5 kB]                
Get:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease [26.6 kB]       
Get:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates InRelease [26.1 kB]        
Get:8 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib all Packages [2632 B]
Get:9 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib amd64 Packages [6216 B]
Get:10 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib Translation-en [6345 B]
Get:11 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free all Packages [4936 B]
Get:12 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages [8310 kB]     
Get:13 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free amd64 Packages [14.7 kB]
Get:14 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free Translation-en [32.2 kB]
Get:15 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main Translation-en [6476 kB]     
Get:16 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib amd64 Packages [50.7 kB]  
Get:17 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib Translation-en [46.9 kB]  
Get:18 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free amd64 Packages [98.3 kB] 
Get:19 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free Translation-en [91.4 kB] 
Get:20 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages [392 kB]
Get:21 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main Translation-en [281 kB]
Get:22 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib amd64 Packages [2908 B]
Get:23 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib Translation-en [2722 B]
Get:24 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free amd64 Packages [1200 B]
Get:25 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free Translation-en [1274 B]
Get:26 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main amd64 Packages [17.9 kB]
Get:27 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main Translation-en [10.8 kB]
Fetched 16.9 MB in 23s (731 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done

Perhaps remove all files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and then try apt-get update again.

#88 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-24 10:05:12

(I assume "freer" is a misspelling)

I can't replicate the problem, but an access timeout may have many reasons.
Does the "same thing" happen every time?

#89 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-24 07:21:38

I'm trying to setup a test; would you mind show your sources.list, as well as the apt configurations (in /etc/apt/apt.conf  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*)?

#90 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No audio on Excalibur through pipewire on KDE wayland » 2025-08-23 13:35:14

How about we leave this thread here (without me actually closing it) as there is no value in adding opinions here one way or the other. If I get inspired I'll weed it and retain the technical matters for later.

#91 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-23 13:16:26

It might look odd, yes; there is Translation-en.bz2 in devuan while there is Translation-en.xz in debian. However that's the same for other (non-archived) codenames as well.

Do you get a complaint with apt-get update?

#92 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-23 12:40:56

Yes chimaera-backports came back. I think it got removed when bullseye-backports got removed; then bullseye-backports came back; and then after a while chimaera-backports came back. And during all that bullseye and chimaera also got archived. All done very much on purpose by Debian and Devuan "repository dev's"; I'm sure there is a story.

Perhaps it stays like it is for a while.

#93 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No audio on Excalibur through pipewire on KDE wayland » 2025-08-22 10:17:58

Yes.
Print it out, frame it and hang up on the wall.
Then you can show your kids and grand kids how adults do things.

#94 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No audio on Excalibur through pipewire on KDE wayland » 2025-08-22 05:27:35

@steve_v: you still here? And you still contribute to the discourse?
You are too kind.

#95 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Excalibur and fail2ban » 2025-08-21 11:42:37

It looks like there you have a task to volunteer for.

#96 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2025-08-18 08:49:09

Well, at least half the population is above average IQ...

#97 Re: Installation » Upgrading to Excalibur » 2025-08-12 06:59:57

I wouldn't worry about that until it fills up; then removing old kernels is the first step. Though generally it may also be a good idea to keep a "live installer" USB stick on the shelf.

#98 Re: Installation » Upgrading to Excalibur » 2025-08-12 06:52:08

Hmm, yes I only have two kernels with their initrd, each pair being 12+32 Mb, so again, I don't understand what they refer to. That's standard Debian kernel+initrd adding up to 44 Mb each. So if you need more than 10 of them you might be in trouble.

EDIT: perhaps if you want lots of pre-pivot software it will enlarge initrd, and perhaps that'll then grow above 100Mb.

#99 Re: Installation » Upgrading to Excalibur » 2025-08-12 06:37:18

I'm not sure what that issue is about; my excalibur boot directory is 100 Mb, though also not a separate partition. I think 487 Mb is plenty and it's certainly fine as a raw partition.

EDIT: I also have an EFI partition with <5 Mb bootloader (grub), which gets mounted as /boot/efi.

#100 Re: Installation » any way to obtain Excalibur ISO? » 2025-08-11 23:39:30

@marma-lade: did you by chance opt for "expert" install, and then skipped the "load additional components" step?

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