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#876 Re: Off-topic » The open source crisis? » 2021-06-13 12:38:44
"But unfortunately he made it freely available to everyone"
This argument is nonsensical. You're arguing that he should have made it proprietary?
"How many Linux distributions and derivatives are there? It should be 5, maybe a maximum of 10. But unfortunately it really is a crisis!"
"But it bothers me that as a user I have to search for the good distributors in this pile of "crap" for days or months! This is what makes life difficult for us as a user!"
Choice isn't a bad thing. You're essentially asking people not to release their distributions so that you have less options. More nonsense.
You do have a point there regarding choice. Though actually, I think the real problem, is corporations like redhat trying to ruin linux with their dbus, systemd and other crap and general bloating.
They have done quite a job infecting linux with bs.
smh...
#877 Re: Off-topic » The open source crisis? » 2021-06-13 03:42:30
Are there any? And if so, what is it?
First two articles that deal with open-source and crisis, in different ways:
https://tomtunguz.com/open-source-cloud … ty-crisis/
https://www.linuxadictos.com/en/la-gest … ierto.html
Risks and opportunities, as you can see. But I'm not an entrepreneur and I'm not a world saver either, thank God!
Linux father Linus had a wonderful idea! He did it wonderfully! But unfortunately he made it freely available to everyone. Sure, because he's a good guy, no question about it! But the result is really critical. How it started:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source
"Open" versus "free" versus "free and open"
Open source development projects are positive. There are some that really impress me, like gimp and musescore! As a user, I experienced the second almost from the start, even before the first official version. And I still use it today, it's great! Of course, I am also impressed by some Linux distributions, but not by others. But everyone has their preferences.
So far everything is fine. But now comes the problem. How many Linux distributions and derivatives are there? It should be 5, maybe a maximum of 10. But unfortunately it really is a crisis! No, I don't mind if everyone thinks he have to make his own distribution. Should he, if he doesn't know how else to spend his life meaningfully. But it bothers me that as a user I have to search for the good distributors in this pile of "crap" for days or months! This is what makes life difficult for us as a user!
And what about the applications? The same problem. In a few areas the matter is clear and there is a good one and maybe 3 others who will eventually die again. In other areas there are dozens or even more! What for? And if you choose one that is not that good, you won't get any support! Always the same argument: we are all volunteers and our time is limited. Ok, then just delete the project again. It's very easy!
Open source is good, but it needs more discipline! Yes, open-source requires more discipline than a company's proprietary product! Why? Because the company fires you if you do badly. Not with open source! Therefore, open source needs more discipline. But because it is open and free, everyone who is incapable thinks he has to do a project now ... for example a wikifarm!
Is it difficult to do a wikifarm? No. You need a wiki software (MediaWiki for example), you need a free hoster and you need a logo and a "code of conduct" for the user ... and you are a little king! And there are so many who would like to be little kings but are not. You can call it egoism, or egocentricity, or narcissism, or whatever. But it is definitely not good. Because these people have everything they need to run a wikifarm, just one thing not: discipline! And so the project soon becomes a trap for hundreds or thousands of users. All delivered to some "experts" who are not.
Alternative? Sure, host it yourself. Sure, so even more "little kings". Where is this going? To chaos. Do we want to go there? No.
Do we want such "little kings" in the open-source movement? No. Do we want them in the social counseling center? No. Do we want them in the hospital? No. Do we want them in the police? No. Do we want them in Washington D.C. in the "White House", or in Buenos Aires in the "Pink House"? No. But why the hell are these psychopaths in all these places anyway?
Because psychopaths have very special mental abilities to sneak in everywhere, always with the same tricks and the same empty words!
There are two books on this that I would like to recommend here. No, not about Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Franco, Peron and whatever they were called. There are two other books, one very old and the other fairly new:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(Plato)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm
I'm afraid one day we will have to destroy these psychopaths ... or the psychopaths will destroy us!
Here is a link to a somewhat special website about an international, pagan, nazi, feminist sect, with probably a few hundred million members! No, they are not "holy", they are psychopathic!
http://jsm.6te.net/anderes/hagia-en.html
And I will now not go on writing now about God and the devil, anyway that is the point!
Have a nice Sunday and God bless you! Amen!
Yep, evil indeed tries to sneak in, and fool the masses...
Honestly, the last part you say about the psychopaths needing to be destroyed, some part of me agrees with you, but on the other hand, they need to be thoroughly disgraced or the problem will come back, also, I don't support people like trump anymore then people like Biden... but I can tell you, I dislike the side of lunacy more than the, just enough side, always.
What we need is people who want to bring bold brave good change in power, Bernie Sanders in my opinion goes in that direction mostly, but not nearly as much as he should. But yeah, he is the closest anyone can find.
Honestly, I don't like extremists, haters and cheaters, but it seems like they find their way into places that are the opposite of where they belong all the time.
People who are evil/haters, extremists and cheaters, belong in one of three places:
Jail
Mental Hospital
Or without power to control anyone via power whether it be corporations or government.
I hope our world can start to distance itself from these evildoers, God be willing, but unfortunately he works through people, thus it may take a very long time.
May he have mercy on our souls...
God knows we need it...
Have a good one!
#878 Re: Installation » Reasons to stay with Devuan » 2021-06-11 09:41:51
I am not one bit surprised, the harder the software is to audit, the more this bs happens. Heh...
Also, system dumb is a huge piece of software, its almost as big as the linux kernel I hear...
That is just wild...
and redhat thinks we should trust their bs? wtf...
no way... man.
#879 Re: ARM Builds » Question regarding mnt reform, again, but different! » 2021-06-11 09:39:15
zapper wrote:In these two pictures below it appears the developer of MNT Reform is developing a pocket version of the MNT Reform
My question, is, do bigger screen sizes use more cpu processing, and if so, by how much?I also wondered if Devuan will have support for this device, although it probably depends on Debian supporting it right?
hello zapper,
yes bigger screens in number of pixels, use more processing power, but that nowadays has very little to do with screen physical size..
A mobile phone nowadays have bigger screens than some laptop displays..because screens are measured in pixels
the more you have, the more processing power is needed, but how much is relative, it will depend on so many factors..Nowadays SoCs already incorporate a lot of hardware to deal with lots of stuff, but that will mean that the driver will have to support that ideally well..
I didn't knew a ultra mobile platform was in the works..
its a nice concept..In relation to support,
If Debian manage to get support for it, that would mean its a lot easier for Devuan..
If not, Devuan can support it,
but for that, Devuan would have to gain access to the device, so that developers can work..The level of support is not certain, because its unknown how much that project will progress..
I hope all ends well
The ultra mobile device seems very nice
I agree, I hope it works out too. I will probably use it for two things, focuswriter, and playing audio files. 
That being said, you seem to be saying that a bigger screen does use more electricity then a smaller one. I had figured that was true, I wonder how much more it uses...
If costs even 600$ I would want it, if it costs less, like 500$ or 400$ for sure i will want it.
In general I probably will want it, but yeah, I hope for its size its half the price of the other one at most.
On a more related note though, the other measurement is the battery on the device. I hope to get at least 12+ hours of battery life given the size and more.
#880 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-06-05 11:25:03
zapper wrote:Camtaf wrote:CPU usage is of little consequence to a normal desktop user.
Those that need good CPUs are those that use their resources heavily, like compiling software, complex graphics, CAD, etc.
That depends on your focus, My x230 which has deuvan on it has 8GB of ram, so if you wonder why I use a lightweight window manager and try to keep memory and cpu down, there is a reason.
It's called battery life!
and power consumption, having the computer draw a few extra watts can make a difference to the power bill if you are on the computer a lot.
What is the heaviest consumer of cpu in the linux desktop environment, im gonna say gnome?
Maybe Cinnamon even...
Although Cinnamon is based on Gnome, so... yeah, Gnome based Desktop Environments are pretty heavy.
KDE is heavy also, Any DE that is not Lumina Desktop or LXDE is heavy in general though.
Also, any window manager as heavy as fluxbox or openbox or bigger.
And yes, power consumption is what I meant as a whole.
#881 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] touchpad disabled » 2021-06-05 10:06:08
Why would anyone want a touchpad enabled?
I find it annoying, although if you don't use a thinkpad, then it is kind of needed, eh?
That being said, I always have touchpad set to disable as soon as jwm starts, because it is a pain in the ass to have touchpad on when I mostly use trackpoint anyways.
Strangely enough, I had a guide on my bookmarks, but cannot find it now...
If its disabled, I hope you have a mouse until you figure out how to fix it.
#882 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-05 10:00:33
We have had a difficult year in which some things happened that we do not fully understand yet.
Yet it seems like some particularly special people are deeply involved. And it seems like these people have realized that the truth is about to emerge. Or do you think they just get divorced by accident? It is more about getting the money "safe".
If my fears come true, there will be a storm of indignation around the world, very soon! And that will affect Microsoft too. I don't know how many users Windos has, but if only 25% switch to Linux, then you should be well prepared for it. It requires better structures, more project management, more controlling and more user-friendliness.
Linux will grow and that creates problems, like everywhere when something grows. But you can learn from the mistakes of others
On this subject, I say, I am of two minds, one I want microsoft to die, two... I don't want it to die in case something more sinister takes its place.
Apple is an example of something though that I honestly would be glad if it died.
Google also! 
That being said, if more people move to linux, we should not cater to their proprietary needs outside of emulators and wine-staging type stuff and maybe certain non-required applications.
Putting crap into the kernel for the masses that causes insecurity is a no-no!
#883 Re: Off-topic » What will happen to Windows? » 2021-06-05 09:57:16
Freedom is a double edged sword so actions should be chosen with care.
Indeed... and I think four freedoms isn't enough, we need a fifth one, the freedom to not be vendor locked in to one type of way to run any software, aka, stuff like systemd, dbus, etc...
shouldn't be forced on people in situations where they really aren't needed. One example, dhcpcd-ui only requires dbus in certain distros...
If you build it from source, it does not require dbus.
So... that's a good sign bs depends are being forced down people's throats. ;/
This happens with other packages from debian and archlinux also.
hplip for example... is one.
#884 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-06-05 09:53:55
CPU usage is of little consequence to a normal desktop user.
Those that need good CPUs are those that use their resources heavily, like compiling software, complex graphics, CAD, etc.
That depends on your focus, My x230 which has deuvan on it has 8GB of ram, so if you wonder why I use a lightweight window manager and try to keep memory and cpu down, there is a reason.
It's called battery life!
#885 Re: Installation » low memory installation » 2021-06-03 21:54:44
If you want low memory installation, I recommend two things for window managers, JWM, used by puppylinux among others, or i3-wm or dwm which I find somewhat dull and confusing at times.
I focus more on cpu usage then memory usage though.
#886 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-06-03 21:48:23
Ah, what about cpu usage though?
I looked on AUR and saw it has the least required dependencies/ram usage of most window managers.
It would be very interesting if someone compared window managers with regard not to ram, but cpu usage to see which ones use the cpu the most.
JWM, i3 and dwm
Probably take that cake.
dwm being the one I would avoid without thinking at all.
That being said, I wonder if 32 bit operating systems consume more or less ram then 64 bit ones.
I am not entirely sure, do you know?
Anyways, if you want to know my config, whisper me privately.
If you want my config that is...
It is more keybinding in most cases, alt f at same time triggers firetools, alt s at same time triggers sakura, stuff like that, and more!
#887 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-06-02 02:32:26
I'm literally just using the standard XFCE desktop install, & it works remarkably well, even using Firefox online isn't slow.
My preferred WM is Fluxbox, been using it for years.
JWM is better imo, it is very lightweight for a window manager with a taskbar, that is feature complete, etc.. It was made from scratch,
so that is probably why I bet it is so light for a window manager.
I wonder if the 32 bit version of XFCE uses less ram and cpu then the 64 bit version of XFCE per the install I mean. :0
I just checked btw and palemoon + cbatticon, uses like 630mb on jwm on my deuvan install
Also strangely enough, I am using 700mb on my Hyperbola Install. Although it also has a bunch of scripts in the background that my deuvan doesn't. redshift, is one such example.
It's very easy to modify the keybindings, I can always send you my config if you want.
If I do, look at it very clearly before using it.
#888 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2021-05-31 06:14:36
With Linux, even with the standard live Devuan installed, my 2006 32bit laptop is still usable for all my daily tasks, as a normal user, & it only has 1GB ram!
Do you use jwm?
That is my new window manager of choice, its better than all the rest, i3-wm even...
I love how lightweight it is and it still has keybindings, and autostart options, etc...
I am using 889M of ram right now using jwm with iceweasel-uxp's latest build, (had to compile from source though)
This is my 64 bit hyperbola install though... on Devuan I bet it would be slightly more.
I also now use jwm on my devuan gaming laptop too, and it works wonders.
Anywho I replied to your comment, because I was curious which window manager you were using to make that possible.
#889 ARM Builds » Question regarding mnt reform, again, but different! » 2021-05-31 06:01:47
- zapper
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In these two pictures below it appears the developer of MNT Reform is developing a pocket version of the MNT Reform
https://files.mastodon.online/cache/med … e1631a.jpg
https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/106273622961541331
I ask this, because I am curious if the MNT Reform Pocket Version will be faster then the original and of course how much faster it will be...
He probably doesn't have time to answer at the moment due to the work load, so I don't know if I will get a response from him for a while thus I ask here:
My question, is, do bigger screen sizes use more cpu processing, and if so, by how much?
I also wondered if Devuan will have support for this device, although it probably depends on Debian supporting it right?
I probably would use this for two things: Focuswriter, and opus files. for the most part...
Whether it is imx8m I will choose or LS1028A, I have no idea at this point.
#890 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-08 23:00:48
Actually, moc seems to be the lightest way to play audio that I know of.
ffplay is way more cpu usage intensive in my findings... heh.
#891 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2021-04-08 22:59:12
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:andyprough wrote:antiX Libre respin with Linux-libre kernel
You do know the De??an kernels are already de-blobbed, right? The only difference with the "Libre" kernel is that the ability to load non-free firmware has been hobbled but that's irrelevant if you use Devuan without the non-free firmware packages installed.
lsmod shows 41 additional modules with the default kernel in Devuan over the Linux-libre kernel in antiX Libre respin. Including some stuff I don't want such as appletalk and bluetooth. It's mainly just a personal preference though - the Devuan kernel is mostly blob-free enough for me, but I prefer Linux Libre, and I have no need to install non-free firmware on a Libre system so the "hobbling" is irrelevant.
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:And to stay on topic: I've deleted my Debian systems so I'm now just using Arch & Alpine Linux. Alpine is my favourite and I might drop Arch
I'm proud of you!
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:once I get bored of GNOME 40.
I threw up in my mouth a little bit...
The fact anyone likes gnome makes me cringe also. But also, most DE's make me cringe a little bit. They are mostly bloated. Lumina Desktop is the only one I respect currently.
I much prefer my i3-wm on my main laptop. XFCE4 is good if your lazy same with LXDE, but yeah...
That being said, Gnome, MATE and KDE are crap in my opinion. Yes, even MATE. IT looks nice, but its bloated.
#892 Re: Off-topic » is the subject of that open letter taboo? » 2021-04-01 03:59:14
Feel free to lock if it is taboo now. heh...
#893 Off-topic » is the subject of that open letter taboo? » 2021-04-01 03:57:43
- zapper
- Replies: 2
If so, can you make a sticky about it so that people know for sure?
I am not for the letter, don't get me wrong, I think its just an excuse to destroy software freedom.
But yeah, my point stands, is talking about the letter of Stallman to resign taboo?
I have seen two threads die after all about it...
#894 Re: Off-topic » Digital minimalism. How many applications do you use daily » 2021-03-23 23:27:15
web browser = Palemoon or iceweasel-uxp depending on which computer,
mpv for videos
mocp (moc) if you prefer, for audio
pcmanfm for file manager
geany or nano for editor
Focuswriter mainly for writing, libreoffice for other documents,
icedove-uxp for email client (this is strictly on Hyperbola... ) I prefer to use devuan for gaming more.
hexchat for irc
sakura for command line
Those are mainly what I use. I might have other specifics but that sums up most of it.
Unless you speak of wine and emulators such as qemu, dosbox, etc...
Some of this is subject to change, I may try to use ffplay from now on aka... for videos if possible.
#895 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Issues installing VirtualBox on Refracta » 2021-03-23 23:13:54
fsmithred wrote:People use virtualbox because it's easy to figure out how to do things with it.
Have you tried gnome-boxes? It's easier to use than VirtualBox, and virt-manager isn't particularly difficult to use either.
fsmithred wrote:how does one attach a usb drive in qemu?
See https://www.spice-space.org/usbredir.html ← that shows how to configure pass-through for the USB ports themselves. It works for any attached USB devices, including hard drives; gnome-boxes configures it automagically.
EDIT: my fdn guide shows a complete configuration from the command line, including shared folders and USB pass-through.
Virt-manager and gnome-boxes are both also good.
Virt-manager is the easier of the two.
But I think, redhat develops virt-manager, which makes me wary of them now.
I used to like it, but I don't need it now that I know a bit more how to use qemu.
#896 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Issues installing VirtualBox on Refracta » 2021-03-23 23:09:50
People use virtualbox because it's easy to figure out how to do things with it.
So how does one attach a usb drive in qemu? I saw two ways to do it and one way not to do it in the man page, but not really an explanation of how to do it. Anyone have a quick answer so I don't have to spend the time experimenting?
Ah, you want to know how to use a usb drive in qemu?
I can tell you:
qemu-system-x86_64 ~/your.img -cpu kvm64,+nx -enable-kvm -hdb /dev/sdb -m 3072 -soundhw ac97
However, for some virtual machines, you need to do one other thing...
Switch on show tabs on your VM, and go to compat_monitor0
Then type in device_add usb-host or usb-storage...
That's always worked when I used to use winxp vms.
Obviously I keep those detached from the internet.
Quick note though, I don't remember whether its usb-host or usb-storage after device_add
my two cents. Hope this helps.
The extra step however isn't needed for Devuan images from what I remember. Same with Hyperbola, etc...
#897 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-03-23 23:02:53
If you consider moc to be bloated, I wonder what you would think of vlc and smplayer...
Thank you though for the info! Will try it.
#898 Re: Installation » Cannot add ppa » 2021-03-20 17:44:13
zapper wrote:Isn't there some warning about not making a frankendebian?
Such a warning exists. Here he is
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
And here's a quote
Repositories that can create a FrankenDebian if used with Debian Stable:
Debian testing release (currently bullseye)
Debian unstable release (also known as sid)
Ubuntu, Mint or other derivative repositories are not compatible with Debian!
Ubuntu PPAs and other repositories created to distribute single applications
I had thought so...
#899 Re: Devuan » Meet Chimaera's deepsea theme » 2021-03-20 09:42:27
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-grub.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-slim-sm.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/lightdm-greeter-sm.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-theme.png
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/deepsea-openbox-sm2.png
Finally, have the Chimaera deepsea theme together. Am now getting all the other parts in place. Enjoy your dive to the deepsea floor!
I am surprised, but your theme for some reason is growing on me a little bit.
I dunno why, but it looks better than I thought before.
#900 Re: Installation » Cannot add ppa » 2021-03-20 09:37:56
Isn't there some warning about not making a frankendebian?
Although, debian and devuan repos are sometimes compatible... but combining even one ubuntu with devuan repos sounds like its just asking for trouble
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