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#776 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Sources.list hates me! » 2024-12-31 01:29:00

I don't think you're supposed to have the forward slash after the "merged" part, just a space then daedalus, should be:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates  main

#777 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with ALSA and audio output ? » 2024-12-31 01:16:33

Do you need the "plughw" in the first asoundrc you posted?

Maybe this instead, just hw on that first instruction:

pcm.!default {
        type hw
        card 0
 }

ctl.!default {
        type hw
        card 0
 }

#778 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Instructions for installing lightdm on new Devuan 5 installation? » 2024-12-30 18:21:31

Apt also provides a log, refer to /var/log/apt/history.log.

Pretty sure that's where Synaptic gets it's history, loads that file when you open it. So it's the same history.

But if you never use the GUI, then yeah.

#779 Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5.03 (daedalus) New: with more legacy-firmware support » 2024-12-30 03:29:55

greenjeans
Replies: 11

1-13-2025 New versions of the 5.03 ob-z's uploaded, fixed an EQ bug, loaded the new kernel and all the other updates that got pushed over the weekend.

5.03-z 1-10-2025

This version adds some legacy firmware that really should have been included on previous iso's, but was left off in pursuit of a smaller iso size.
Older wi-fi/ethernet and sound etc. should now work. Intel microcode has also been added and alsa-firmware-loaders as well. Fixed a small calendar bug,
updated a couple of programs, and blacklisted wdat_wdt so that error doesn't appear during boot. No proprietary Nvidia drivers have been installed, that
is a process that can be unique to different machines and involves quite a bit of work, open-source software for Nvidia is already onboard and should
work fine for most users.

New versions compressed with zstd instead of xz for improved performance in live-sessions.

5.02-Z
Identical to Vuu-do 5.02 iso's except these iso's have been compressed using zstd instead of xz,
it makes for a slightly larger size iso, but much faster decompression, in practice this makes it
faster to load and run from a liveUSB, it should also install faster to a hard-drive.
On a live CD/DVD the bottleneck is the slow transfer of the optical drive, but if you load it all
to ram you'll get some better performance in that session as well. In my own testing it's working
really well on my older hardware and USB-2, faster boot, faster opening programs, less lag the
first time you open something in a session. On a newer machine with much higher specs it may not
be that noticeable. This is the first run for testing.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … do-5-zstd/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This one is superb IMO. The below are the regular 5.02's compressed with xz.

Release notes at the site and on iso.

New Vuu-do 5.02 Openbox mini up:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … 5.02-mini/

And got the max up now 12-30-2024:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … -5.02-max/

And with that I am done for a while, whew! Edit: Apparently I am not.

#780 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with ALSA and audio output ? » 2024-12-28 16:41:46

So you just have one sound output? No HDMI too?

If not sure run aplay -l in terminal.

alsa-topology-conf
alsa-ucm-conf
alsa-utils
alsamixergui
bluez-alsa-utils
gstreamer1.0-alsa:amd64

Is what I have that's working, note that all depend on libasound2 as well. And I also have libasound2-plugins:amd64

And libasound2-plugin-equal:amd64 gets you the alsa equalizer as well, which is really nice to have.

#781 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-28 16:28:15

Posting from first run of the openbox mini now, looks great, just a couple more hunt-down-the-css-that-did-this-crap issues and it's ready.

#782 Re: Devuan » Xfce 4.20 released in Dec 15,2024 » 2024-12-28 16:19:53

https://phosh.mobi/posts/phosh-2024-in-retrospect/
...how about all those cool names...p...h...you...see...kay

...ugh

[emoji-shaking-fist-at-sky-while-shouting-obscenities]

_elvis_has_left_the_building_

uuggghh, i'd rather smack myself in the jimmies than look at stuff like that all day long.

Many years ago when my kids were young, and they'd watch cartoons and anime-type cartoons which were even worse, it would render them completely incapable of using their brain for anything else whatsoever. They might acknowledge words you spoke to them, but they didn't really absorb the content. I'd have to go shut the TV or computer off, and that was actually rather traumatic for 'em, almost like a hard reboot on a computer.

I became convinced that stuff is bad for you, before I made the first Vuu-do, I did a bunch of research on colors and active video imagery, and their effect on you.
Bottom line: All that stuff is hard on your eyes (strain), and hard on the brain, when watched for long periods of time. So I like my stuff nice and dark and muted without a bunch of blingy colors hopping around everywhere like a friggin' terrier trying to get your attention.

ETA: omg I hate these skinny disappearing scrollbars in FF so much. sad  I know you can go into the about:derp and change it, but why on earth would they be the default.

#783 Re: Devuan » Xfce 4.20 released in Dec 15,2024 » 2024-12-28 16:11:16

@ stopAI, no KDE, not in this household, lol.

#784 Re: Devuan » Xfce 4.20 released in Dec 15,2024 » 2024-12-28 16:10:11

@brocashelm, thanks! That's some cool info I didn't know about.

Sounds great and i'm sure it works for some folks, but I tried every possible way of implementing it last night and nothing worked, tried both the gtk2 and gtk3 versions and no joy. Bummer, I was really excited when I saw your post, i've literally been working my tail off for the last couple weeks trying to unify the theme in my openbox stuff....i'm sooooo close too, posting from a liveCD of the mini now, no VLC or other stuff in it obviously so not an issue, but in the maxi it's got all the regular stuff including VLC, would just really be stunning if it all conformed to the theme i've worked so hard on.

#785 Re: Devuan » Xfce 4.20 released in Dec 15,2024 » 2024-12-27 23:21:51

Two things I dislike about having QT apps mixed in a gtk system:

1. More bloat, I already have a toolkit installed, having two makes no sense.
2. The interior of QT apps does not respect the system theme and it's colors. In VLC the menubar and all dropdowns and tooltips are glaring white which looks like crap in my otherwise gray-blue-black theme.

I'd be happy to use a GTK media player as soon as they make one that works with DVD menus out of the box 100%, no half-azzed attempt at it or poring through the internet looking for hacks to try and make it kinda work.

#786 Re: Installation » Epson Printer Driver (PC Fax) - systemctl not found? » 2024-12-27 16:17:44

Edit: Another option is just extract the package and manually move the files to where they would normally be installed

This is what I did to get my printer running, the whole printing shebang has a ton of PPD's, but didn't have one for my newer Canon printer, but the Canon website had just what I needed, pulled the appropriate .ppd and dropped it in and printer fired right up next time I opened the print manager.

#787 Re: Devuan » Xfce 4.20 released in Dec 15,2024 » 2024-12-27 16:12:56

gtk2 files in Numix-Frost = 1

gtk3+ files in same theme = 281

You should see all the notes in all the themes from the theme makers complaining about gtk3, and all the extra work they have to do to work around that mess. Also complaints about Firefox are rampant.

#788 Re: DIY » α-utilz -- a funky version of refractasnapshot/installer » 2024-12-27 03:27:44

@moulder61 Nice! Working on a theme project now that includes lots of Miyolinux, he really nailed it at multiple instances with his experimentation, everything I do is based on that philosophy of "make it your own" which to me is the heart and soul of linux in general.

#789 Re: News & Announcements » Merry Christmas » 2024-12-27 03:20:27

At our house we call the solstice "gnomes-moot" and have a happy little gnome for a Christmas tree.

Merry Christmas/solstice/Gnomes-moot to all, and hope all of you have a great new year!

#790 Re: Devuan » Xfce 4.20 released in Dec 15,2024 » 2024-12-27 03:11:37

Ick @QT.

I really don't like having both on my system. Bad enough having gtk2, gtk3, gtk4 etc, and trying to make it all look right. Really wish stuff like VLC would stop insisting on QT.

Enshittification is a great term. I already disliked CSS, but having to deal with it in ginormous theme files has made me despise it to the nth degree.

I'm sorry, but gtk 3 is a regression, adding nothing but bloat and all for the sake of doing stupid useless crap that's just annoying rather than useful to people who use computers as a tool.

It's like elementary school kids are doing everything these days, whatever they see on cartoons and anime`, they feel the need to include that bizarre crap in computer operating systems. The themes and icons are just beyond stupid. Nobody bothers to think of whether they should do a given thing , they just do mindless crap because they can.

</old man yelling at clouds>

#792 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problems with ALSA and audio output ? » 2024-12-27 01:44:09

Posting now from a liveCD of Vuu-do mate-mini, that I installed firefox on in the live session, checked youtube and sound and video are working perfectly with nothing but pure ALSA. Literally, no pulse, apulse, or pipewire and everything works.

Please check on the ALSA packages you have installed, and i'll compare them to mine, and perhaps we'll find what you're missing.

#793 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-23 22:58:45

Yeah Numix-Frost is badly broken on the GTK3 side. For now in the 5.01 Mate version, i'm going with all Blue Submarine with just a tweak to the tooltips. It's a nice looking theme, not as easy on the eyes as the classic Vuu-do colors, but pretty nice, think I may leave it that way.

Working on a new theme for the Openbox versions, cobbling together some elements from Numix-Frost, Blue Submarine, and Miyolinux dark to make something that works well and looks the same in gtk2 and gtk3 apps. It will also work in Mate once I get done with it.

#795 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-12-21 23:35:57

Here's a joke:

What did gtk2 say to the system?

gtk2: "Do this, this, and this please"
system: No problem, will do!"

What did gtk3 say to the system?

gtk3:"lke rnl kSnbl ekjajhlkjnxkenjn cejxkjn"
system: "What the hell was that crap? Falling back to gtk2"
gtk3: "The hell you will"

aaarrrgh.

#796 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-21 02:26:16

New Mate-mini Vuu-do uploaded!

Now maybe I can take a break, happy holidays everybody!

#797 Re: DIY » α-utilz -- a funky version of refractasnapshot/installer » 2024-12-20 22:03:16

Yep, Refracta uses it, that's where I first ran across it and started using it. MUCH smaller than Zenity, yet does everything I need it to so far.

Just noticed your link to MIYO based projects, gonna have to download that and give it a try, I love me some Miyo, all the stuff I do now is originally based on Miyo from back in 2017.

#798 Re: DIY » α-utilz -- a funky version of refractasnapshot/installer » 2024-12-20 15:30:10

I could be tempted to try to make a gui for it, but it's a bit out of my league really.

Yad is your friend. wink The learning curve is very small, once you figure it out it's pretty fun messing with it.

Yad+shellscript and you can make a machine do anything, i'm having a blast with it last few days, mocked up a script+gui last night to adjust xset settings in lieu of using a dedicated screensaver/power manager.

#799 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » NVidia issues » 2024-12-20 15:24:12

The nouveau driver has gotten a lot better in my experience, I used to hate it like the plague. But now it works pretty good, at least the last time I tried it, ran a desktop computer I have that was connected to a 50" TV and picture was great.

#800 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do 5 (daedalus): 5.02 versions going up, mate-mini is first » 2024-12-19 15:25:11

I just can't help myself, it's like a 7 year itch, once I start it's hard to stop.

Yesterday I built a Vuu-do Mate mini and rolled up the iso late last night, testing it today. It wasn't bad at all as i'd already laid the groundwork, I built it off the openbox mini so it already had all the hardest stuff done. And best of all I just barely made it to CD size, 699.5 mb!

Just installed core Mate packages plus useful caja right-click options, was already using Pluma and Engrampa anyway, but I didn't throw the whole Mate kitchen sink at it, for good reason, actually used some different options for some things.

The EOM mate picture viewer, task-manager/system monitor, calculator, and screenshot additions together are over 100 mb of stuff, just to do simple tasks.

Gpicview, LXtask, Galculator and Scrot do all the same stuff basically, and together are less than 10 mb and work much faster. Even got all my regular choice of keybinds working great.

It's dang fast for Mate, not quite as quick as Openbox, but very nice. Not sure i'm going to do a maximal version though. Maybe.

Right now the menu is super-quick, but in a full version the svg icons slow it down and make it glitch (at least on my low power machine), svg icons i'm seeing these days are much smaller and better than they used to be, but still for major programs i'd need to make png copies in several sizes and use those instead to stop the menu issues on older machines like mine.

Still pondering the idea of a fully translatable version of the openbox max. But man, that's probably an extra 600 mb of stuff when all is said and done, and I have never tried to change languages on a machine, don't even know how and wouldn't be able to test properly if I did, I speak a little Spanish but not enough.

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