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#651 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] libc6 bug fix has not reached chimaera-proposed-updates » 2022-10-21 19:18:35
I think the instructions on the website were written before *-proposed-updates were merged with debian. When I added it to sources.list recently, I forgot about the advice to use /devuan and I made it /merged like all the others. It seems to be working, but there is a potential problem.
*-proposed-updates is a place to put updates that may need additional testing. I think maybe it should have a lower priority so those packages don't get installed automatically.
Edit: We will most likely continue doing it the same way as debian.
https://wiki.debian.org/StableProposedUpdates
#652 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] libc6 bug fix has not reached chimaera-proposed-updates » 2022-10-20 20:31:42
Wow, that's weird and annoying. Try installing libc6=2.31-13+deb11u5 (with or without the -t...)
#653 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] libc6 bug fix has not reached chimaera-proposed-updates » 2022-10-20 12:41:50
I just did 'apt upgrade' and got the version from chimaera-proposed-updates. I'm actually surprised that I got it, because I thought that proposed-updates did not get installed automatically. In the past, I had to add '-t chimaera-proposed-updates' to the install command. 'apt policy' shows me that proposed-updates has a priority of 500 just like the rest of the repo.
Oh, maybe because you're running u3 and I've been running u4 so there's nothing in the chimaera main repo for me - just in proposed.
apt -t chimaera-proposed-updates install libc6should do it.
#654 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta - HDD space required? » 2022-10-15 18:32:42
Also, I noticed that the forum link on the Refracta website appears to be dead. It should probably be replaced with this link.
Thanks. I removed three obsolete links. I keep forgetting about the ibiblio site because I mainly use the new website, refracta.org. I should probably replace a bunch of links to point to the new site.
#655 Re: Installation » Installing from USB thumb drive » 2022-10-03 13:39:36
If you don't want to re-make the usb with dd or cat, you might get around the problem with some creative symlinking to /cdrom. I've done it in the past, but it's been a few years. Try linking the usb mountpoint or a relevant directory on the usb to /cdrom.
#656 Re: Installation » From Debian (testing) to Devuan » 2022-09-26 21:44:46
And in a predictable future?
Debian will work out all the bugs and everything will be fine. Just like always.
(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Any other answer would have turned NSFW.)
#657 Re: Installation » (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs » 2022-09-25 15:12:21
I don't know why you're having problems removing wicd. Maybe try removing all the parts instead of just the metapackage.
I do know that you should only have one of those network gui programs installed. If you want to use connman, then remove all of wicd and all of network-manager. You'll have to make your own entry for connman in the startup program list. Tie it to connman-ui-gtk or connman-gtk-ui (whichever is the correct command.)
#658 Re: Installation » (jessie to beowulf) no network icon / panel / no network setitngs » 2022-09-23 21:19:52
You have replaced wicd with network-manager. You should probably make sure that all the wicd packages have been removed. I'm assuming that network-manager-gnome works properly in ascii. I don't recall if there are problems with that or not or if we forked that package. I know it works in beowulf and chimaera.
From the Applications menu, go to
Settings -> Session and Startup -> Application Autostart
Check the box for Network. That will put the network-manager applet in the system tray.
If n-m does not work in ascii, there's connman which also supports vpn.
#659 Re: Installation » From Debian (testing) to Devuan » 2022-09-23 21:11:55
Yes, it's still possible to run without usrmerge in devuan. If you use one of our installer isos, you will be asked whether you want it or not. Default is not.
#660 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Anacron symlinked to "true", again. » 2022-09-14 11:51:58
Correction: I tested the things I fixed and they are fixed.
There's an extra closing parenthesis on line 957 of the refractainstaller-yad. It can be fatal.
Solution: If you use the graphical installer, don't select a swap partition. Let the installer make a swapfile instead. Otherwise, use the cli installer. Run sudo refractainstaller in a terminal.
I'm not going to make new isos immediately. I don't want to go through replacing the torrent again so soon.
I did rebuild the refractainstaller-gui package. 9.6.4 is coming down the line and will work with refractainstaller-base_9.6.3.
#661 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Zoom in Devuan » 2022-09-13 19:56:15
Last time I tried to install zoom in devuan, they (zoom) only had packages for stretch. Those should work on ascii, however both stretch and ascii have been retired.
Go to your zoom meeting in chromium. If you get an exo-open popup window, get rid of it. Ignore all pleas to install the zoom crap and scroll down the page until you see a link in microscopic text that says something like "Join the meeting using your web browser." and do that. It works just fine.
#662 News & Announcements » New torrent for chimaera, seeders needed. » 2022-09-11 15:40:02
- fsmithred
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There's a new torrent file for chimaera to include the updated live isos. All the installer isos are unchanged and still at 4.0.0. The four live isos are 4.0.2 and include a bugfix for the live installer.
Please seed. Thanks.
Here's the torrent file:
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera.torrent
There's a magnet link at the bottom of this page:
https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan
#663 Re: Other Issues » GRUB update lands at 'grub rescue>' prompt » 2022-09-11 10:27:12
The amd64 live isos have grub-efi-amd64 installed and the grub-pc deb package available inside the iso for bios boots. If the iso is booted in uefi mode, it installs grub-efi. If the iso is booted in bios mode, the installer will install grub-pc. If you boot in bios mode and chroot the installed system, you need to install the grub-pc package before running grub-install. It's in the root of the filesystem. So run dpkg -i /grub-pc*.deb before running grub-install.
If the iso is booted in bios mode and the disk has gpt partition table, the installer will warn you that you need a special partition for grub, at least 1mb with no filesystem and with flag bios_grub (in gparted) or ef03 (in gdisk).
Edit: Just after hitting Submit, I saw that the first message says this happened after an upgrade. Now I'm not sure if my answer if relevant.
#664 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] LUKS Full Disk Encryption » 2022-09-11 10:18:23
I've never tried to hibernate with a swapfile. There is a uswsusp module in the pm-utils package. I have no idea how you would use it. (dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp won't work)
$ apt-file find uswsusp
pm-utils: /usr/lib/pm-utils/module.d/uswsusp#665 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Anacron symlinked to "true", again. » 2022-09-10 16:37:03
One more time...
Newer chimaera live isos (4.0.2) are uploaded. I'm sure I tested the installer this time and it works.
(note: torrent and magent link haven't been updated yet at this time Sep 10, 16:36 UTC.)
#666 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] LUKS Full Disk Encryption » 2022-09-10 16:31:14
The live installer would have made a swapfile in the root partition if you had not chosen to use the swap partition. So yes, it's possible to have a swapfile. To be sure, check to see if /swapfile already exists.
refractainstaller does the following, where bs=1024 and count=1048576:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/target/swapfile bs="$swapfile_blocksize" count="$swapfile_count" ; check_exit
mkswap /target/swapfile ; check_exit
chmod 600 /target/swapfileThe values for bs and count are in /etc/refractainstaller in case anyone wants to change the size of the swapfile. Currently it's set to 256mb. And then you have to edit the swap entry in /etc/fstab. Mine looks like this:
/swapfile none swap sw 0 0#667 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Anacron symlinked to "true", again. » 2022-09-09 12:09:39
refractainstaller base & gui 9.6.3 are built and will migrate down through the repos. I'll rebuild isos this weekend.
They're also here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/
(for anyone who can't wait or those who are not using devuan)
#668 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Anacron symlinked to "true", again. » 2022-09-09 00:30:46
Nah, don't mark it as solved yet. I screwed up again. The diversion of anacron gets removed in the live session AFTER the system gets copied to hard disk. It needs to happen in a chroot. The good news is that it'll do the right thing if you run the installer twice without rebooting the iso. 
If someone wants to change it in place, go to line 2043 in /usr/bin/refractainstaller-yad or line 1893 in /usr/bin/refractainstaller and change this
# Remove diversion of anacron
if [ -e /usr/sbin/anacron.orig.anacron ] ; then
rm -f /usr/sbin/anacron
dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/sbin/anacron
fito this
# Remove diversion of anacron
if [ -e /target/usr/sbin/anacron.orig.anacron ] ; then
rm -f /target/usr/sbin/anacron
chroot /target dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/sbin/anacron
fiReally sorry about that. I think I need a vacation.
#669 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] apt-get update: gpg error (expired key) » 2022-09-08 21:50:33
Morgennebel wrote:fsmithred wrote:To do a new install with the existing live isos, you can just download the package in a terminal with wget, check the sha256sum and install with dpkg or gdebi. Then run the installer.
I tried the server and netinstall ISOs. Both do not have dpkg available (or I did not found them in /usr/sbin, /sbin or /usr/bin).
You need first to chroot to /target first. dpkg is then available.
# chroot /target
# dpkg -i ....Ciao, -MN
For the installer isos, yeah, you need to chroot. But for the live isos, you don't. The desktop-live has the entire xfce desktop for you to work with plus all the system commands. It is a full system, and the live installer just copies the running system to hard disk. That means any changes you make in configs or packages in the running system will be copied to the installation. The minimal-live doesn't have xorg, but it's still a complete system and will act the same way, just in console only.
#670 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Anacron symlinked to "true", again. » 2022-09-08 21:33:25
fsmithred wrote:New live isos with new repo key and new refractainstaller with anacron fix are uploaded.
Thanks! But FYI you have one more expired key to renew. ;-D
gpg: assuming signed data in 'SHA256SUMS.txt' gpg: Signature made Wed Sep 7 18:11:12 2022 CEST gpg: using RSA key 67F5013216271E85C251E480A73823D3094C5620 gpg: Good signature from "fsmithred (aka fsr) <fsmithred@gmail.com>" [expired] gpg: Note: This key has expired!
I fixed that a long time ago. You need to run
gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --refresh-keysgpg --list-keys 094c5620
pub rsa4096 2017-10-07 [SC] [expires: 2025-05-02]
67F5013216271E85C251E480A73823D3094C5620
uid [ultimate] fsmithred (aka fsr) <fsmithred@gmail.com>
sub rsa4096 2017-10-07 [E] [expires: 2025-05-02]#671 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Anacron symlinked to "true", again. » 2022-09-08 00:48:58
New live isos with new repo key and new refractainstaller with anacron fix are uploaded.
#672 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Invalid Signatures » 2022-09-07 15:31:50
No, wget as listed above does not work, because there is no http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.deb,
You must have hit a mirror that wasn't fully updated. If you pick one from the mirror list, you can go to the same directory and find the .deb package.
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt
#673 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] LUKS Full Disk Encryption » 2022-09-07 12:43:15
I don't know the details of how it works, but grub has modules for crypto and for luks. Look under /boot/grub/.
Yeah, I almost warned you about the double password entry. It's very slow, too. I should have said that I recommend it if that's what you really want. Another way to make /boot secure is to remove it from the hard disk and put it on a usb stick. Then you can't boot without the stick. (also inconvenient.)
#674 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] apt-get update: gpg error (expired key) » 2022-09-05 21:10:59
fsmithred wrote:To do a new install with the existing live isos, you can just download the package in a terminal with wget, check the sha256sum and install with dpkg or gdebi. Then run the installer.
I tried the server and netinstall ISOs. Both do not have dpkg available (or I did not found them in /usr/sbin, /sbin or /usr/bin).
For the installer isos (server, desktop, netinstall) the following might work in a shell:
anna install devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.debor maybe...
anna install /pool/DEBIAN/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.20.9_amd64.deb
dpkg -i devuan-keyring_2022.09.04_all.debFor the live isos (minimal-live, desktop-live) dpkg is installed and will work. Only the desktop-live has gdebi.
#675 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Anacron symlinked to "true", again. » 2022-09-05 12:38:27
Yes, new live isos are coming soon. The fixed version of the installer is currently in chimaera-proposed-updates.
To use the current isos, wget the new keyring in the live session, and install it with dpkg or gdebi before running the installer.
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