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#601 Re: Devuan » Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness » 2023-08-23 02:20:58
In 20+ years, I've never seen any distro say anything but "unsupported, at own risk" with regard to skipping releases on an in-place upgrade. Devuan and upstream Debian are not exceptions.
Why would you even try it, except as an experiment?
Lack of knowledge? Ignorance? Lack of Critical thought?
These 3 are all possibilities.
I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.
Although, its probable I just didn't do enough research.
But as an obvious, only two things make it okay although still largely a waste of time anyhow:
1: Its a VM
2: You have more than one copy of that same VM
That's all I can think of.
#602 Re: Devuan » Meet the Daedalus sapphire theme » 2023-08-22 02:54:16
golinux, I very much think this one is better than the chimaera one. Not as fond of green as blue.
#603 Re: Off-topic » AI on mainstream media » 2023-08-22 02:50:53
golinux by popcorn do you mean, it is going to be a mess for any regulation to get done of value?
If so, yeah probably...
#604 Devuan » Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness » 2023-08-22 02:45:00
- zapper
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Never, ever switch from oldoldstable to stable.
When using full-upgrade, always make sure you do it only one from one version difference.
Like oldstable to stable or oldoldstable to oldstable.
If you have any stupid meanderings, feel free to post them here if they relevant. Not that I can stop people ;P
And yeah, I tried to go from beowulf to daedalus that caused me to bork a vm.
Thankfully I had backups...
#605 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2023-08-17 02:40:41
simple golinux, as to what debian would do, probably they would do some sort of cease and desist action.
If I had to guess...
But yeah, it is inappropriate.
Although, I have seen that wallpaper in devuan before... so idk. Unless I am wrong in which case correct me.
#606 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2023-08-17 01:07:14
Linuxman, you do know I was trollfacing you right?
I am very well aware that you didn't mean that credit card company. This is a linux forum.
xD
#607 Re: Devuan » Why are systemd files present in Devuan? » 2023-08-17 01:01:52
linuxnews wrote:LinuxNews here. The 'nonsense' did not come from me. Please complain at https://repology.org/project/systemd/versions. Thank you.
Oh . . . but it did! News "sources" have an obligation to verify information before blabbing about it. Passing the buck is not an excuse for not doing your homework. Sadly, such journalistic practices are common these days. Truth is the casualty . . .
Truth has always been a casualty in some form or another in the history of the world, don't you know this?
However, we can thank ronald reagan for a massive increase in this.
Just sayin...
News should never be capitalistic that is the bottom line.
Profit off of the news = an opening for societal problems to increase exponentially
#608 Re: Devuan » Is Devuan Daedalus Changing to "Stable"? » 2023-08-17 00:55:43
You noticed! It's been less than an hour since the repo links got changed. So yeah, we are in the midst of the change. Give the mirrors a couple hours to catch up. When we're sure everything else is in place, the website will be updated and there will be an official announcement. Stable installer isos and live isos are already in place.
That's good, I was beginning to think Devuan was dead...
Get it? 
#609 Re: Devuan Derivatives » a good and a bad new for the Devuan community » 2023-08-14 22:31:20
oui, you mentioned the problem being deep in linux, you are absolutely correct. The more bloated linux frameworks that beome a standard, like a forced one, such as dbus, avahi, systemd, pulseaudio, pipewire, etc... the more problematic things get.
Yes a few of these can be ditched more easily, but their libraries are still hell to get rid of. So... yeah, not so simple if you realize that.
Devuan being a systemd free debian fork, is in my opinion not enough. But I usually don't use devuan, so its no huge issue. Nor is it their responsibility anyhow. Its more of the fact that over time, this will allow a mess to be created bigger over time.
Eventually, things get :s for some users including developers as well.
#610 Re: Devuan Derivatives » a good and a bad new for the Devuan community » 2023-08-14 22:26:52
Please take your rant upstream to Debian. We are Debian without systemd. Period.
Or . . . here's a thought . . . create what you envision yourself and gift it to the world!
This is disheartening... oui has a point about firefox. Although, midori isn't too much better no matter which midori oui is talking about.
Then again, I don't know what the message was like before oui changed it.
So... idk.
#611 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-08-06 01:05:10
Btw, a fully jwm iso install, complete with jwmkit installed, would be interesting and awesome. Aka, first run would be already activated, etc...
Not strictly needed, necessary but it would be awesome.
#612 Re: Installation » The Perfect instalation ( Help! ) » 2023-08-06 01:03:08
Not possible at all.
There is no perfect install. In fact, most everything has no perfect that I know of.
#613 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » PulseAudio always resets to mute » 2023-08-06 01:02:01
Given the version devuan has, currently, or at least last I checked, it might be more beneficial to have alsasound.
This being said, to each their own.
#614 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-08-06 00:58:08
My chosen search engine has been acting weird... yeah that does work.
My next question is, which is more reliable right now, chimaera, or daedalus?
I would guess the first, but I will download that one anyhow, just because its smaller. 
I have need of an alternate os because of not being able to do some flashing stuff on my computer.
Libreboot like stuff aka.
./blobutils isn't working, etc... on my usual.
xD
I wonder if it has improved at all since I last used it though.
Guess I shall see soon?
Btw, I apologize for not leaving more nonsense lately, but I have been occupied.
I know you guys miss it...
/S
#615 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-08-06 00:45:38
Do you plan to support ARM devices in the future as well? By the way, pondering trying your operating system again, but am having trouble finding it online... unless its at sourceforge. I thought I was seeing things though.
#616 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2023-08-03 02:53:28
Has anyone taken a look at Expirion Linux - there is a Devuan based Linux there under the "Files" tab
Is it related to that free credit scam known as expirion?
If so, wait for someone trustworthy here to say its legit if you have sense.
#617 Re: Devuan » Why are systemd files present in Devuan? » 2023-08-03 02:51:26
linuxnews wrote:... The 'nonsense' did not come from me ...
If you don't give a source, don't say where you got it, it looks like it came from you ....
Anytime someone says "you didn't hear it from me"
I instantly think, okay I am going to say I heard it from you.
#618 Re: Off-topic » Google to delete inactive accounts » 2023-07-21 02:43:50
Windows 8.1, was when I first tried to escape, but it took a year for me to be successful. Still, it was when I began. But yeah, I agree with you, google or gaggle if you prefer, is broken from the inside out. You can say this about mac as well and microsoft and possibly about even some distros as well.
*cough red *cough hat *cough
They are likely to incur lawsuits for trying to make gpl code proprietary...
So weird....
#619 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » PulseAudio always resets to mute » 2023-07-17 04:18:56
andyp67, mostly agree, one exception though,pure alsa is only beaten by one thing, alsa-lib + sndio - alsasound.
If you can get it working of course.
Some distros can, hard to know if Devuan is one of them, never tried before for whatever reason. Perhaps I didn't know if the service's name. Idk...
People who need pipewire and pulseaudio aren't dumb, they just like unneeded bloatware.
Still foolish? In my opinon, yes... but what can you do.
:shrug:
btw, nice necro. This page was dead 2 years ago.
#620 Re: Off-topic » A warning from the godfather of AI » 2023-07-12 19:45:10
Yeah, there really isn't an easy answer.
#621 Re: Off-topic » Google to delete inactive accounts » 2023-06-30 02:51:49
@tawai I lost faith in Goggle on the mostly the same level, as early as 2014. What took you so long?
#622 Re: Off-topic » A warning from the godfather of AI » 2023-06-30 02:44:39
I find it hard to believe that it took some people till the 2010s to realize Bill Gates ideals were very problematic for people of the world and the planet's limate both as a whole.
To all detractors, yes, get rid of the richest top evil big tech corporations would be awesome.
Hint: Billionaire corporations need to vanish.
#623 Re: Devuan Derivatives » List of Devuan derivatives » 2023-06-30 02:40:52
Hello:
brday wrote:... why haven't they included DevuanDog ...
Probably because ...
brday wrote:... it was discontinued.
Best,
A.
Sometimes the answers to questions can be extremely simple. 
#624 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2023-06-23 16:22:07
zapper wrote:@jwmkit what about cpu resources for jwmkit on daedalus vs chimaera
Wow!, I don't know how I missed your post. It's been more than a month. I hope you didn't think I was ignoring you. Sorry.
I understand the concern of CPU usage. Not only for performance, but battery life. I did not compare CPU usage of Daedalus with previous releases. Although I always keep an eye on HTOP,, and I can tell you CPU usage seemed pretty low, and I don't think it should be a concern.
Of course CPU usage is just like RAM usage. Any noticeable difference is usually the result of additional services and software you install/configure.
No worries, I do the same thing... btw, probably. I mean as long as you don't use something like awesome, or a desktop environment, even Lumina i might add is considered in this! But yeah, if you don't use a bloated window manager or any desktop environments, you shouldn't have any significant battery life issues from the desktop appearance alone.
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