Once you install only Wayland and don't install any X11 app, which might happen whenever you want.

Sorry for sarcastic answer as these kind of question can't be answered really especially with a keyword "fully" in it, as it could be now or never so depends on you.

When someone says "fully" i think of "empty"... kind of Monty Python's Flying Circus logic.

Also word old is relative as Wayland is also old kind of 10 years old or at your choice maybe you can say "decade young" They started thinking of it as soon as Google's phones and Android appeared, actually developed so year or two before.

Builded upon Google's success and dominance with phones, Wayland was basicaly X for phone and Gnome is DE for phone (big icons, touch friendly, etc... vs keyboard/mousing, you know)... basically kind of X/DE also phone-friendly, (Cannonical's Unity X/Mir is similar story), where X is considered not so phone friendly, now by extending functionality and investment from RH, what remains is to convince people to use it on their Desktops too.

Future is Now if you want that, just don't run X apps Otherwise and the opposite run bloat if you want that. Third option should be, The Past is Tomorrow that could work also

Well, there are varios music and internet radio players avilable, for example:

https://opensource.com/article/17/1/ope … ic-players

Maybe i can recommend GogglesMM to try (not that version from repo, but recent one 1.1.8), that does not depend on gstreamer and uses fox toolkit 1.7.x for GUI, can organize music, can play internet radio, etc... As you see you don't need to depend on any gtk nor even qt for that, but to still have a GUI if you want to. Of course it is entirely different GUI lib and have nothing to do with these Gnome/RH/systemd stories.

And when you compile fox check apps inside, something that Debian refuses to compile for some reason it seems There is fox calulator, adie editor, control panel for fox, even file manager pathfiner, but someone might find xfe more useful altogh that is fox 1.6, there was sound editor i forgot how that was called now, etc...

Sounds like if someone write say panel, synaptic in fox and web browser (at least in suckless way)... and couple other tiny apps, that would be pretty much usable gtk/qt free version of Desktop Linux

I have no idea why these fox apps aren't presented better, reminds too much on Windows maybe? Or maybe worse, what isn't in RH control that shouldn't be presented anywhere, probably some deal with distros or something... no idea

People can use gtk2  version of Synaptic, verison 0.75.13 from wheezy should compile and work on Jessie just fine

It is, somewhat halfly still is mostly gtk2 but wants gtk3 some mate apps are gtk3... while current MATE upstream is all gtk3.

Hm, try maybe in same /etc/slim.conf to put sessions line, in order you want of course:

sessions mate,lxde,openbox

Ah, that is not there anymore it seems maybe work mayb not... nothing, does this allows you to select default:

sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager

If it does that is it, just select default..

Cool, anyway for adding keys of this repo to cite:

https://software.opensuse.org/download. … oud-client

For Debian 8.0 run the following as root:

echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ivaradi/Debian_8.0/ /' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nextcloud-client.list 
apt-get update
apt-get install nextcloud-client

You can add the repository key to apt. Keep in mind that the owner of the key may distribute updates, packages and repositories that your system will trust (more information). To add the key, run:

wget -nv http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:ivaradi/Debian_8.0/Release.key -O Release.key
apt-key add - < Release.key
apt-get update

I tought policykit-1 is installed by default

Yes, Restart/Shutdown commands require 'policykit-1' package to be installed, Suspend/Hibernate require 'upower' package also.

Thinked of as zapper mentioned KShutdown that GUI require a lot of packages/deps, there is also i think 'obsession' gtk2 app can do this also... but if someone like OP mentioned don't use/want a GUI that is it

With ck on Devuan 1.0, as a user proper commandline should be:

Shutdown:

dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop

Reboot:

dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Restart

No additional dependencies again, for those who like

I don't use Suspend/Hibernate but these should go with UPower, so something like...

Suspend:

dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend

Hibernate:

dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate

Probably lib is not on right location or something... Seems happen on any distro, making a link looks like do a job:

https://github.com/nextcloud/client_theming/issues/48

I stopped using screensavers since i stopped using CRTs something like 10+ years ago .  My scenario is that i completely have disabled that xserver feature and then i do manual dpms off with xset command if/when/where i need it and mostly i don't.

Just saying maybe someone found idea useful, since screensavers actually does not save anything just might look fine.

edit: to mention computer monitors have DPMS on in EDID by default, while TVs or TV/Monitor combinations have DPMS off usually since you don't want TV to auto go to sleep by default but on PC some users like that for some reason still... well even my PC monitors never sleeps too, only when i force dpms off, timings can be set there also for those who like, etc... Thing sometimes further requre manual configurations as some GPU drivers might like to command there also... i like to disable it everywhere and to have non-automatic/manual control. But that is just me

I use this, i think glowed is visible on anything but i might be wrong probably not so much on total white But at least it is visible on anything else and from far away.

XFCE is used by about 15% according to Debian's popcon.

Linux communities are real diverse... i like to say - traditionaly most people on Linux Desktop use Gnome or KDE, but majority uses something else and that is not Unity not even Gnome's leftovers like MATE and Cinnamon

So if suggestion is not obvious now you have an idea, as if you wanna minimal Desktop... then ditching any of these is good starting point. And maybe also think twice if you need some app that depends on some parts of their frameworks, as that is rule for breakages, general PITA as leads to bloat.

Now, if you ask... but what is left if i ditch all these? Exactly that, your minimal Desktop of choice You might share results with others or not, again your choice.