@stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn Yes, but its still far better than the stock bios with intel me rammed completely open.

Devuan may not do as much as I would suggest to getting rid of bloat, but even getting rid of systemd is a good start anyhow.

As for what I would remove as dependencies from packages that don't need it? Well I could say, but its off topic for now. poetterware/redhatware/freedesktop.orgware is all I will say.

Anywho glad devuan exists anyhow.

@EDX-0 It would be nice to have something that works  like sakura but with way less bloated dependencies.

It would have to have copy paste and show scrollbar as requirements. All terminals that do this require vte3 or vte2.

@golinux I think part of my response belongs in the thread where I posted.

"@knighttemplar you are kinder than I in this regard. I don't put up with crap like that. I would've probably told that dude who wanted to ban you, to quote "suck it."

Even though I probably would have been banned.

I don't tolerate corporate fascists or corporate thugs.

Also, staying with a distro that has such a community is close to the level of bad of tolerating actual idiots.

I have my limits I will say.

"

@stopai I am not fond of redhat or freedesktop.org projects and pipewire feels like one of those if it isn't already.

@steve_v OOF I didn't expect you to swear, and the F-word at that...

Dear lord... you are super pissed.

As for you going elsewhere, only gotta say, later then, if ever...

@golinux two things... should I watch this conversation with popcorn?

And also, if you think my nonsense was painfully stupid, look up qanon and pizzagate.

@g4sra which package has that awful license change? LXD?

@golinux yeah, I did. I thought it was funny lol. I wondered how quick you would lock it LOL.

I should do this more often am I right?

@golinux since this thread is getting a lot of nonsense, I am guessing its okay if I make a nonsensical thread devoted to weird stuff like aliens crashing on planet earth and sucking our blood out of our body. Am I right?

I tried the reckless method to install gnuinos recently... and surprisingly it worked.

I switched from Devuan chimaera to Gnuinos Daedalus.

Had to disable key signatures temporarily though lol.

Anywho, I wondered if it would be possible to make libraries for the following no longer needed if not already done:

avahi, pam, elogind, pipewire, network-manager, dbus, pulseaudio, wayland.

Btw, dhcpcd-gtk also requires a dbus library for some reason... no idea why.

So far gnuinos' daedalus version works good in vm. Currently using connman though.