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Good question, though not easy to answer. As I have some idea about the code flow, I can match (try to) it up with the log and in particular trace back from anomalous log entries. For Xorg logs you split it into the temporal strands broken by the times where the user has made a short pause in between the use case steps. Post#13 shows that clearly
Unfortunately Alverstone has hand edited the log before posting -- the log we see is not actually the log they got. But I believe that all log lines are included with their correct timestamps and only certain identifiers have been "mangle mapped" under an idea of protecting personal information.
On that assumption there's now enough for me to build a test case that should repeat the misbehaviour, with in particular the logs of #13 providing basis for log comparison.
The "bad" #13 log at timestamps 169.760--169.768 presents the setup for "the problem device" which appears to be a USB keyboard+mouse combo where after some extra logic event4 gets set up as a mouse data stream and the keyboard data stream setup gets postponed as a "virtual subdevice", at timestamps 169.812--169.812.
By the seatd calls, that uses input device with file descriptors 132.
At 174.228 the log starts showing the switch to VT 3, which in particular results in all input devices being "removed" from Xorg's internal data structures, that all their file descriptors are closed via seatd. Notably the device modules are not unloaded though.
In comparison, log good#13 shows the VT shift-away in log lines 104.675--104.744 with the same activity although logged differently. In particular that the logind log lines calls it "paused".
Next we can trace in the log that the "problem device" is unplugged and plugged back by virtue of Xorg handling the udev events while its VT is inactive. Thereafter the log (at bad#13: 192.148) represents the shift back and activation VT4 followed by (at bas#13:195.493) the Xorg termination.
The strand from bad#13:180.566--180.567 seem to represent the bug that the internal data structure discards the event4 handling and that the libinout module gets unloaded. That would result in that the subsequent VT entry does not re-establish event4 without the user again unplug/plug-in the device. The exact bug requires source review.
Notabley the log strand good#13: 160.359--160.414 where the device is plugged in while Xorg's VT is inactive doesn't present a failing attempt to aqire event4. Instead it gets "opened in paused state" that (in some way) avoids re-establsihing the "virtual sub device".
So, in short, it's a bit like reading the future in tea leaves ![]()
Yes that was noted, and I'm trying to pinpoint what the issue is more exactly. The fork was done so as to extend input mediation to have seatd as alternative mediator instead of logind.
Please post a log using seatd as Xorg backend, and libinput to handle the problem device.
Also, please post the log of the working debian package. In both cases I will need to see the whole session from start of Xorg to the return to the VT.
fsmithred's case is different since that doesn't include input mediation and the log does not report error.
mmm enjoying a good laugh is a reality worth pursuing, I think ![]()
Yeah I don't mind people attempting to amuse themselves and others, but that useless waste of vertical space is grating. (That's why I already added a filter to remove strands of newlines. I didn't think anyone would be s...inclined enough to force vertical space by single dots or whatever)
@T-A-P Can you please stop that useless vertical spacing... you just makes everything even more boring!
Note that there there are significant differences in your two use cases which seemingly have the same misbehaviour.
Firstly Alverstone uses logind as seatd backend, while fsmithred doesn't use seatd at all (i.e. the input mediation is disabled, because "libseat integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided"). Secondly A's device is handled by evdev while f's device is handled by libinput.
evdev seemingly has its issues during its re-loading for the device, whereas libinput seemingly succeeds re-loading the keyboard.
Good information; it points outside the libseat integration towards something in device juggling.
It would be useful if you Alverstone could run a test using libinput rather than evdev, and make sure there is no main Xorg.conf in use (as there apperas to be since your InputClass snippets are ignored). A log from such a test would be useful.
And perhaps fsmithred could start a new thread since yours is a completely different use case.
Yes I'd like to see the log file from startx down to that switch back to VT4.
I think you mentioned having an Xorg.conf. If so, please provide that as well.
In summary the issue is that upon returning to a VT running Xorg, that Xorg does not detect or handle changes to the USB inputs compared to when previously leaving the VT.
Please also provide an Xorg log file covering the period of one test; i.e. from startx to after having returned to the VT.
The command you are using,
git rev-list --all | xargs git grep -F python2.7scans all versions of all files in reverse chronological order, to find "python2.7".
Probably you mean to only check the latest version of the files? Like
grep -F python2.7 -r *which would not report any match.
Yes you are confused
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That find command of @fsmithred, when taken literally, will replace all occurrences of "old-word" (literally) with "new-word" (literally), and it will do nothing to occurrences of "python2.7".
That is a puzzle for ome and not for others.
Note that cups-browsed is only used for publishing the printers of your machine for use by other machines. It has nothing to do with how your machine connects to the printers.
You really don't need cups-browsed at all. (One might possibly be able to draw up some use case where it could be close to useful, even if still not necessary). Just purge it.
Sorry, I kind of imagined you would put an ounce of thought into the matter. Silly me.
Do you use emacs to edit files? Does emacs leave backup files? How are they named? Have you edited /etc/init.d/connman with emacs? Are you wasting space here?
The random guess is that it got interrupted in the "middle" of preparing the initramfs, and then perhaps it gets sorted with a simple:
# update-initramfs -u -k allWhen you go multiarch, you also need to apt-get update and apt-get upgrade; "update" is for updating the local meta files about packages, and "upgrade" is for loading the packages supporting the new architecture.
There's good detail at https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
Firstly, in a standard installation, the filesystem holds back 5% of space for root-only use. So your disk of 160G can only be filled to 152G by a non-root user. However wget doesn't know that so may well start downloading on the idea that there is some 8G++ space left, and then run into trouble when saving.
Secondly if only 4G of your 152G are in Downloads, you would do well in cleaning up elsewhere. Perhaps (as root) cleaning up in the /var/log and /var/cache trees would reclaim space. Otherwise I would guess you need to tidy up the user's home area.
Use du or xdu to find where the disk usage is, and delete with care and forethought.
ethtool -P wlan0 might show something, probably the working address though.
I suppose it could store it textually?
would be 37363a30633a64313a34363a66373a3839 in hex
EDIT: would be odd to do
mmm then maybe it's the opposite way; that the firmware loads with some random default mac, and this eventually gets updated from the hardware. If so I suppose a binary scan of the firmware could possibly find that first mac...
Perhaps the MAC is changed by firmware? In that story the first would be hardware (PROM) MAC while the latter would be a firmware derivative. Guesswork.
When you say "no network manager at all" you actually mean "just using ifupdown". That is the traditional network management which is configured by means of a text editor to edit its configuration files... It is indeed the simplest and easiest way with maximal flexibility.
Up to the right there is the WM selector, for choosing fluxbox rather than xfce4 ?
Given that your /etc/resolv.conf is a link it suggests you also have the package resolvconf installed, and that would provide an additional depth to the confusion.
But in any case, DNS setting is part of the DHCP protocol; you know, when your machine contacts the router so as to get an IP address. At that time your machine is also told the IP address of the outbound gateway and the address of the DNS server(s). Those are suggestions by the DHCP server (your router) which get digested by the DHCP client running on your machine. The IP address is assigned to the network interface (via a kernel system call); the gateway IP is assigned to the routing table (via another kernel system call), and the DNS IP address(es) is registered in the file /etc/resolv.conf.
All that happens regardless of which networking software you use; whether it's plain ifupdown, wicd, network-manager or connman.. or whatever.
With resolvconf, you (unbeknowingly?) have opted for a local control of /etc/resolv.conf which is at odds with most networking software unless it also is configured to avoid messing with /etc/resolv.conf. Your first step towards bliss would be to purge resolvconf and reinstate /etc/resolv.conf as a text file.
Nothing stopping another developer (to be?) to stand up and be counted.
As wicd is forked by Devuan, the process could be to 1) get an account at git.devuan.org, 2) fork the devuan/wicd project for updating to working form (on branch suites/unstable), and then 3) issue a merge-request... all while concurrently getting a dialogue with Andreas going.
It would then be useful to also clone hanaguro's project as an additional "remote" for the workspace, so as to easily be able to match up their changes against Devuan's history. Doing so would have the additional advantage of getting that code away from Microsoft's (github) control.