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Contrib and non-free options are available in Devuan but not enabled by default. Have you checked to see if ZFS is there?
You might post your question to the dng mail list or on the #devuan-dev irc channel. The devs don't have time to come to the forum often.
Devuan Jessie will mirror Debian "oldstable" until its EOL several years from now. Relax and enjoy the stability that 'just works'.
Before Jessie is EOL, ASCII will be released. There is no ETA for when that will be.
You might want to look at some of the chatter in the #devuan irc logs. There is also one old thread on the mail list. If/when the binaries are available in Debian they will come to Devuan. Or perhaps someone will adapt them natively. Currently, there are other more pressing issues that we're dealing with so not a priority.
oldstable (Jessie) is not "deprecated". It is a viable LTS release.
If you want the latest, upgrade to ASCII and deal with the breakage.
I have no idea what a 'craker' is. You might try to offer solutions rather than just complain and denigrate our efforts here.
For sure ASCII will be released before Debian Stretch moves to old stable. [/endsarcasm]
Anyone who is dissatisfied here can always move elsewhere . . .
Yawn . . . and zzzzz
I also don't see ascii dirs/files anywhere so not sure where they are either.
Are there any predictions of when Devuan Stretch will be released?
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There will never be a Devuan Stretch!
Debian Stretch = Devuan ASCII - planet nr.3568 - and is now in Devuan 'testing'. There is no date for the 'stable' release but there will be some testing isos released hopefully soon. It is also possible to upgrade to ASCII from Jessie but read carefully about possible issues before you do that.
From a link on the download page: https://files.devuan.org/MIRRORS.txt
@golinux you said in #2
https://devuan.org/os/development-kit is an obsolete page. How did you find it?
- that is true but still available by direct url
it also happens to match this https://devuan.org/os/development which is reached by clicking on the "Development" tab at the top of the webpage.
Early in 2016 there was an https://devuan.org/os/development-kit page. That page was well indexed in search engines. But by the time of the Stable release it was obsolete and rather than delete the page, it is now redirected to https://devuan.org/os/development. Then the development-kit was renamed to distro-kit and a new page with the currect information was written.
then you say:
Please go to https://devuan.org/os/distro-kit for the most recent information. There you'll find this link to the current sdk info:
which is true ---BUT that link is not available on the
/devuan.org/ main page or the //devuan.org/os page
Why should there be a link on the index page which focuses on how to get and install Devuan? It has no place there. Same holds true for the os page which talks about how an os works.
There is a link on the https://devuan.org/os/development page - - - reached by the 'Development' tab at the top so the url is a little confusing - you don't find it in the contents of the 'os' page
Not trying to make excuses but . . . even though I worked on the styling of the site, I had little to do with setting up the site structure. I inherited what was in place when I took over the site early this year, It is a well-established site so it would be unwise to restructure it at this point. So we're trying to work around it but at the same time simplify the site structure and remove redundancies.
semantics ?? I don't know - I would have thought that each tab at the top would have its own folder /os /development /community
I don't disagree with that and would have done it differently if I had been in charge when it was locked into place.
@zenkaon . . . free free to edit your post to add the code tags. There is a line of formatting options above the input box that will do Just that with one mouse click. ![]()
Maybe take it to irc?
Anyone object to my nuking this OT chit chat?
Here:
How many moons does our planet have?
How many letters are there in the word apple?
The idea is to make them not esoteric and also not time sensitive.
Who is the president of Russia/USA/etc.?
That's more on the right track but unfortunately bots can usually figure out number questions in milliseconds (at least it feels that way). Only one bot has gotten through the current system in over 6 months so it works quite well. And IMO it's less annoying than those picture captchas that you have to cycle through. And politics is a no-go . . .
golinux wrote:- what linux distro forced to use systemd?
This one is getting lost in 'translation grammar'.
The wording of this question is not clear so I'm not sure whether you're asking:
1. what linux distro forced (the) use of systemd? RedHat? Debian? etc.
2. what linux distro forced (who?) to use systemd? Users? Downstream distros? etc.
And the conclusion of 'forced' is just not true even though it feels like it. Life is about CHOICE. 'They' made theirs and 'we' made ours. Plus, it's always a good idea to keep to the facts and not embellish with judgmental filters. ![]()
The last one is the best, On the right track but no cigar quite yet.
I'm glad I only have to register once then.
LOL! Well, I'm happy you got through the question gauntlet. Enjoy your stay here. ![]()
I'll leave the technical details to you but I do know that is not the right slim panel. You can download the latest version of the slim theme here. Note the lighter bg color of the input box, different 'login' font and the addition of an F1 message. Username name prompt (and others) appear in #dad9dc over the input box with this theme. You might want to consider the session info placement in relation to the F1 message on the panel too:

Yeah, it's BIG . . .
OK enough idle chatter. Maybe you could take your personal frustrations to a pm on irc?
We need some women on the forum
Does an old cranky one count?
Thanks for trying . . .
Ok fair enough:
- what linux distro forced to use systemd?
This one is getting lost in 'translation grammar'.
- what init system is the most widely used but also the most despised?
Questions should be related to facts not judgments.
- What's the first name of the kernel maintainer?
We already have a nearly identical question in the rotation.
These any good at all???
The last one is the best, On the right track but no cigar quite yet. ![]()
Amprolla does all that.
Here's the first version: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla
And here's the current one: https://github.com/parazyd/amprolla
You are welcome to offer suggestions for effective Linux -related questions that will foil the bots. We'd love to add to the list! It's not as easy as you think! They need to be unambiguous and not too technical.
Welcome to the forum btw. Nice nick.
Please log your observations here. I have a few things from dmo installed but that was from nearly two years ago and things change . . .
Yes you can but at your own risk, of course. dmo is outside the scope of Devuan intervention so check dependencies carefully . . .
Will the input layout be the same as currently? I hope it will be for continuity. At a minimum please keep to the minimal swoosh and logo or just a solid purpy BG. (Sorry you'll have to imagine the butterflies and planets . . .)
Note that F11 at slim login screen takes a screenshot with scrot and puts it in /root/slim.png. Thanks to fsr for figuring that out. Should make things easy for you.