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#2626 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Any relation between Devuan and antiX/MX? » 2017-07-07 19:04:07

Well, that didn't come out the way I expected. I forgot about all the nosystemd packages. Those can be considered false positives. But it did show something I expected - absence of libsystemd0.

I'm glad we aren't the only ones doing this.

#2627 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Slim and build settings » 2017-07-07 18:26:35

I cloned your repo, built the package and installed it. It works! Nice job. The error regarding libpng12-0 that was preventing installation from the repo is gone.

There is a potential problem. The version number you used is already taken. Looking at the changelog, it looks like you did not use the latest version, so there might be some changes that were lost. Although it looks like those changes involved removing the devuan theme and letting desktop-base handle it. I have no idea what should be done about that.

#2628 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Any relation between Devuan and antiX/MX? » 2017-07-05 13:42:05

Switching to a devuan base would not help antix avoid systemd. In fact, they have some key packages that have been purged of systemd deps that devuan does not have, such as  gvfs-daemons,  and in stretch/ascii there's xserver-xorg.

All those /lib/systemd/ files are from the udev package. They are in devuan, too.

root@devuan:/home/user# uname -a
Linux devuan 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1+deb8u2 (2017-03-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux
root@devuan:/home/user# find / -name systemd*
/lib/systemd
/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-settle.service
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd.service
/lib/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/systemd-udevd-kernel.socket
/lib/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/systemd-udevd-control.socket
/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/systemd-udevd.service
/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/systemd-udev-trigger.service
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd-kernel.socket
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd-control.socket
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-trigger.service
/etc/systemd
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd-control.socket.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd.service.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd-kernel.socket.8.gz
/var/lib/systemd

Try this one in antix and see what you get:

root@devuan:/home/user# dpkg -l | grep systemd
ii  libsystemd0:amd64                     215-17+deb8u6                        amd64        systemd utility library

#2629 Re: Installation » xserver no start w/ ATI(AMD) card, xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-04 11:15:16

Are you using a display manager? If so, which one - slim, lightdm or other?

On my ascii installs without a display manager, I've used this to run startx as user:

echo "needs_root_rights=yes" >> /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config

I haven't tried any other settings. See man xwrapper.config.

#2630 Re: Documentation » Make a live-CD with live-sdk » 2017-07-01 21:39:55

F12, F8, ESC or some other key might get you to a boot device menu where you can choose the usb.

#2631 Re: Documentation » Make a live-CD with live-sdk » 2017-07-01 20:39:40

It should be bootable from a usb stick. Image the stick with dd like you would with any other isohybrid. That's what isohdpfx.bin is for. What are you getting when you try to boot the usb?

#2632 Re: Other Issues » Prboom not compatible between Jessie and Ascii releases » 2017-07-01 15:06:17

The description for prboom says that it's a dummy package for prboom-plus (and server package). What's wrong with the packages that are already in the repo?

apt-cache policy prboom-plus
prboom-plus:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2:2.5.1.4~svn4403+dfsg1-1
  Version table:
     2:2.5.1.5~svn4462+dfsg1-1+b2 0
        100 http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/main amd64 Packages
     2:2.5.1.4~svn4403+dfsg1-1 0
        500 http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/main amd64 Packages

#2633 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 13:28:05

Sorry, I'm in a bit of a hurry, so I didn't read it all. Here's what we have in devuan. You should not use debian repositories to pull packages. You could get some unexpected surprises, and I'm talking about the unpleasant kind.

$ apt-cache policy torbrowser-launcher 
torbrowser-launcher:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3
  Version table:
     0.2.7-2 0
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/contrib amd64 Packages
     0.2.6-2~bpo8+1 0
        200 http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports/contrib amd64 Packages
     0.1.9-1+deb8u3 0
        500 http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/contrib amd64 Packages

If you're in jessie and want the version from backports,

apt-get -t jessie-backports install torbrowser-launcher

I don't know why it's not in ascii. I would either try the one from jessie-backports or temporarily add ceres sources and pull it from there. More likely, I would just go to the tor site, download the latest version and unpack it in my home directory.

#2634 Re: Installation » newer version of e2fsck [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 19:40:39

Maybe. Seems like a good guess, anyway.  Did you let the installer format the partition again?

Here's the top hit on a search for your error message. Looks like it might be related.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=213125

#2635 Re: Installation » newer version of e2fsck [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 13:34:43

Does it say what version of fsck it's using? Make sure it's the version in devuan and not the version in mint. Make sure the grub menu entry is pointing to the correct root.

#2636 Re: Documentation » Make a live-CD with live-sdk » 2017-06-29 13:17:06

Ged, if you have a local repository that's complete enough to contain all you need, I assume that it would work. I think you just need to edit the debootstrap command to point to your own repo. Look in zlibs/bootstrap.

There are several possible locations of isohdpfx.bin. Maybe we should be finding it instead of hard-coding the location. Look at zlibs/iso.

#2637 Re: Installation » newer version of e2fsck [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 13:07:55

You're getting messages to upgrade e2fsck when you run the installer? Which installer iso and installation method are you using?

If you can get back to the installation that worked but didn't have wifi, that's a known problem and is pretty easy to fix.

#2638 Re: DIY » Devuan image building tools question » 2017-06-29 10:51:43

In the isolinux directory, edit menu.cfg to add a line that says "include live.cfg'
and add a file named live.cfg to the same directory with contents

label live
    menu label Live(or some other name)
    kernel /live/vmlinuz
    append initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live

If you want something other than Graphical Install to be the highlighted choice at the boot menu, remove 'menu default' from gtk.txt and add it to the entry you want to be the default choice.

#2639 Re: Installation » Wi-Fi nonfunctional - Qualcom Atheros Device 0041 (rev 20) » 2017-06-28 12:55:08

I can tell that I will be giving away the links to Pete's posts to a lot of people. Thanks for that.

Some of the wireless firmware is in contrib, so that might need to be added to the sources along with non-free.

#2640 Re: Devuan » Defend Devuan against Antivirus and other thinks » 2017-06-27 23:20:54

You won't need a virus scanner for linux until enough people are using linux to make it worthwhile for someone to start writing linux viruses. Clamav is a linux virus scanner, but it is used for finding windows viruses. You would do better to spend your time securing your web browser.

#2641 Re: Installation » Installing to existing partitions/mount? Full disk encrypt? Feedback. » 2017-06-27 02:32:26

miroR wrote:

Everything worked fine until writing out the GRUB2 loader, which reported failure.
I couldn't get Refracta to, after regularly chroot'ing into a working distro cloned onto another hard disk to put it into another machine [I couldn't get Refracta to]:

# update-initramfs -u -k <the-kernel-version>

so I am wondering now, maybe there is an issue with Refracta?

Of course, it is (pasting, except to the ellipsis):
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/O … 2636.shtml
Refracta [...] 8.3 Beta 20170305

That should have worked. Was there an error message?

It seems odd that softpedia labels that iso as beta. It's 8.3.

sha256sum

2b9a39c0e4bbee600607ef24053a65685282d4b47c8a6b76418020e59646ad8e  refracta8.3_xfce_amd64-20170305_0250.iso

Here's where I put my isos (and .asc files if you want to check the signature.)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/refrac … isohybrid/

#2642 Re: Devuan » devuan RFP or ITP are same as in Debian or how can we made it? » 2017-06-26 18:12:34

I don't think that process has been formalized yet, but take a look at https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=549

The reason hardinfo is in devuan is because it is in debian, and the entire debian repo is available, except for a few systemd packages. You can tell which ones we have changed by looking at the version. The devuanized packages say 'devuan' in the version. devuan1 for jessie, devuan2 for ascii.

#2643 Re: Devuan » devuan RFP or ITP are same as in Debian or how can we made it? » 2017-06-26 15:31:24

Stretch and ascii have the same version of hardinfo: 0.5.1-1.5+b3 0 
Ceres has 0.5.1+git20170620-1.   I did not check sid.
What version are you looking for? If you want something that's newer than what ceres/sid has, you probably need to wait until debian brings it into sid, and then it can be backported to ascii.  We use the same version of hardinfo that's in debian. The package did not need to be devuanized.

#2644 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan popcon in ascii » 2017-06-26 15:23:28

The webmaster can see the unique ID number found in /etc/popularity-contest.conf. I don't know if that is associated with your IP address or if they are logged separately. Either way, those numbers don't get published. Whether that's a security risk or not might depend on how paranoid you are. And right now, that's not even working correctly in the desktop-live isos - everyone who uses the same iso gets the same number (there are three in total).

If you install from one of the desktop-live isos, you should delete /etc/popularity-contest.conf before running the installer. That way, you will get a unique number and we get more meaningful statistics. To correct it after installing, delete the file and then run 'dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest'.

#2645 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » User switching » 2017-06-25 19:14:27

There are a couple of solutions here. I tried the usrchg script, and it works.
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=8686

#2646 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 17:54:56

spartrekus wrote:

boot menu, i.e. visible after at /proc/cmdline ?

Yes. To do it once, press the e key at the boot menu and add it to the linux line.
To make it permanent, add it to the KERNEL_DEFAULT line in /etc/default/grub (where it has "quiet") and then run update-grub.

#2647 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 15:12:02

ifconfig is in the net-tools package

If you want wlan0 and eth0 instead of what you have for interface names, add 'net.ifnames=0' to the linux line of your boot menu.

#2648 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 14:47:48

--exclude=rsyslog  --include=<one of the other two sysloggers>

#2649 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Trinity on Jessie » 2017-06-25 14:25:51

I don't know much about it. If I were going to install trinity, I'd use the instructions here -
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_ … structions

Yeah, you're going to need dbus with a full desktop environment. TDE shouldn't be using any gtk. It uses qt. Maybe q4OS uses it for some gtk apps? (I don't know what q4OS includes).

#2650 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 14:20:21

Error message says "possibly" but there's no doubt about it. You need to exclude rsyslog and include either syslog-ng or busybox-syslogd. When rsyslog for ascii is ready, you can switch back to it. It's also possible to add rsyslog from jessie-backports after the install. I know that works, but I don't know if there are any problems with it. (Tested minimally by me, once.)

You might need to exclude alsa-base, too. There is no such package in ascii.

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