Posts by RedGreen925

RedGreen925 · Other Issues

failed to turn on DPMS: DPMS is not enabled . I guess we found the issue , but this is an issue in of itself right ? I deleted the xsession error log , wich freed up the space , but what could be causing MATE power manager to spam errors ?

Certainly have found it two choices find out why the DPMS is not getting enabled to stop it spamming the log. I despise shoddy programming like that by the clueless fool that did it. Second option is this a bash/sh script you put in executable location to allow cron to run it every two hour say to delete the old file and create new. First fin the permissions of the file.

zeus@9600k:~$ ls  -lh .xsession-errors 
-rw------- 1 zeus zeus 305M Mar 19 21:47 .xsession-errors

On my machine it is read write only so that is how you want it to be when recreating it. So something like this for the file.

#!/bin/bash

# A script to remove the spam filed .xsession-errors that has been filling my /home partition

rm /home/username/.xsession-errors
touch /home/username/.xsession-errors
chmod 0600 /home/username/.xsession-errors

Now that does it for the file save it to somewhere that is in your and set the executable bit for me I would use my /home/username/bin directory for things like this.

nano /home/username/bin/xsession_errors_remove.sh
chmod +x /home/username/bin/xsession_errors_remove.sh

Now set it up to run from the crontab by using crontab -e to add a line in there for the normal user. My listing showing a script I run ever two hours to backup my home directory.

zeus@9600k:~$ crontab -l
# Edit this file to introduce tasks to be run by cron.
# 
# Each task to run has to be defined through a single line
# indicating with different fields when the task will be run
# and what command to run for the task
snip ...
# 
# m h  dom mon dow   command

## Run my rsync snapshot script every two hours.
0 */2 * * * /home/zeus/bin/snapshot_home.sh  > /dev/null 2>&1

Change the path and file name to yours and you should have no more problems with that piece of junk messing you about.

RedGreen925 · Other Issues

Open a terminal and use one of the commands in the page below to find the files. Space on a partition does not get taken up by nothing. Your "solving" it once by using live usb suggests the cache files that accumulate and get deleted on a restart may be part of the problem. Those are in hidden directories and if those programs you use to search for them do not check for those they will appear to be hidden. Try the qdirstat program it definitely shows the hidden files/directories on a partition in a graphical program.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … disk-space

RedGreen925 · Installation

I had no idea where Firefox ESR saved my passwords or bookmarks, or where my personalized dictionary was located.

For an older install it would have stored all of that in the .mozilla directory in your /home/username directory, for a new fresh install using the latest versions that have changed to XDG desktop specification it is in the .config/mozilla directory now.

Edit: All may not yet be lost if you have created a Firefox account on old install you should be able to login and sync it to get most of you old stuff back like the bookmarks, extentions, passwords.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

In my opinion, this isn't normal.

It is normal for apt everything is signed with the official Debian or in this case Devuan gpg keys. This provides the security in knowing you are getting exactly what was uploaded to the mirrors. If the signatures do not match apt errors and will not install from that mirror. If that is not good enough for your security needs then do not use it or pony up the cash and effort to make every single mirror capable of supporting SSL over the http connection(s).

RedGreen925 · Devuan Derivatives

If using a Devuan install without a desktop already installed, will the TDE login manager be pulled in? Is it better to start with a minimal install such as LXDE and then remove it after TDE gets installed?

The TDM (TDE Display Manager) will be installed no matter the current one on the machine. If already installed different manager then you get the debconf choice to choose the one to login with. Should be no need for anything other than the basic install then installing the software wanted for the TDE and Xlibre if wanted instead of Xorg. With the TDE you get the choice of the tdebase-trinity to install or the tdedesktop-trinity the whole thing I think it is called.

https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Devuan_ … structions
https://github.com/xlibre-debian/devuan/

The .sources files from my testing machine I use for both of them.

root@9600k:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.sources 
# This file trinity.sources adds the settings needed to install the TDE 
# desktop on Devuan Excalibur.

# Trinity R14.1.x Stable Release (not for testing/unstable)

Types: deb
URIs: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x
Suites: excalibur
Components: main deps 
Architectures: amd64
Signed-By: /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/trinity-archive-keyring.gpg
Enabled: yes

# Testing builds if wanted need to enable then disable the stable above

Types: deb
URIs: http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity-testing
Suites: excalibur
Components: main deps extra
Architectures: amd64
Signed-By: /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/trinity-archive-keyring.gpg
Enabled: no
root@9600k:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xlibre-debian.sources 
# Xlibre built for Devuan
# https://github.com/xlibre-debian/devuan/

Types: deb
URIs: https://xlibre-debian.github.io/devuan/
Suites: main
Components: stable
Enabled: yes
Architectures: amd64
Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/NexusSfan.pgp

RedGreen925 · Installation

You can remove it without any problems at least I have not seen any without it.

zeus@9600k:~$ dpkg -l | grep systemd
rc  dbus-user-session                                   1.14.10-1~deb12u1                    amd64        simple interprocess messaging system (systemd --user integration)

RedGreen925 · Hardware & System Configuration

What am I missing?

Appears you have it formatted incorrectly. This what I use forit with a file in the sudoers.d directory to tell it the settings to use, it works flawlessly.

root@9600k:~# cat /etc/sudoers.d/zeus
# User privilege specification
zeus ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

And you do not to be in the sudo group to use it this way.

zeus@9600k:~$ groups
zeus cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev users netdev bluetooth lpadmin scanner

zeus@9600k:~$ fdisk -l
fdisk: cannot open /dev/nvme1n1: Permission denied
fdisk: cannot open /dev/nvme0n1: Permission denied
fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Permission denied
fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: Permission denied

zeus@9600k:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/nvme1n1: 476.94 GiB, 512110190592 bytes, 1000215216 sectors
Disk model: SPCC M.2 PCIe SSD                       
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: CBEC129E-0D94-4784-A2DC-3E5F15FBF4C3

Device             Start        End   Sectors   Size Type
/dev/nvme1n1p1      2048     411647    409600   200M EFI System
/dev/nvme1n1p2    411648   84297727  83886080    40G Linux filesystem
/dev/nvme1n1p3  84297728  252069887 167772160    80G Linux filesystem
/dev/nvme1n1p4 252069888 1000215182 748145295 356.7G Linux filesystem

Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 3.64 TiB, 4000787030016 bytes, 7814037168 sectors
Disk model: CT4000P3SSD8                            
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 9DF2CDC4-F766-486D-AA06-ADDFBAEF6A1C

Device              Start        End    Sectors  Size Type
/dev/nvme0n1p1       2048     411647     409600  200M EFI System
/dev/nvme0n1p2     411648   84297727   83886080   40G Linux filesystem
/dev/nvme0n1p3   84297728  252069887  167772160   80G Linux filesystem
/dev/nvme0n1p4  252069888 1594247167 1342177280  640G Linux filesystem
/dev/nvme0n1p5 1594247168 7814035455 6219788288  2.9T Linux filesystem

Disk /dev/sda: 447.13 GiB, 480103981056 bytes, 937703088 sectors
Disk model: MKNSSDE3480GB   
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: D4AAE03C-25EB-4FF0-BA58-E541CA6CDD77

Device         Start       End   Sectors   Size Type
/dev/sda1         40    409639    409600   200M EFI System
/dev/sda2     409640  84295719  83886080    40G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda3   84295720 235046911 150751192  71.9G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda4  235046912 937177087 702130176 334.8G Linux filesystem

Disk /dev/sdb: 5.46 TiB, 6001175126016 bytes, 11721045168 sectors
Disk model: WDC WD60EZRZ-00G
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 8057E6FD-95D1-4FAA-A427-E687AB7F0423

Device     Start         End     Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sdb1   2048 11721045134 11721043087  5.5T Linux filesystem

RedGreen925 · Devuan

But not when new packages or more extensive changes are needed to have things actually work properly without systemd. It's always "remove garbage" or "sanitise", never "fix", "improve" or "add alternative".
So long as this attitude persists, every Devuan release will have less stuff that works, less functionality, and less user choice.

You are using the wrong distribution if you want something like that where the developers are always straying away from a solid Debian base with their changes then MXLinux is for you. You get the choice of it with or without the systemd garbage and developers who do exactly what you want, namely always messing with it putting out new packages for it when requested to do so. Or you can stick around here and bitch and complain about these developers and how hard done by you are by them taking the path they have chose over a decade ago. Then there is getting off your ass option and doing these so easy changes you complain about all the time. I suspect you will do neither help out or shut up about this as that is all you do is complain and bitch about how people should be doing the work you want done in a volunteer project.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

Devuan follows Debian. It's OK, the idea is clear. But why does Devuan follows obsolet versions of inits that are not inits in Debian?

Yo do not understand what you talk about the openrc IS in Debian, Devuan follows the packages as they are in Debian except where changes are required to remove the systemd garbage.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw … ection=all

That is the version you will get for the lifetime of the stable distribution.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

There is. The version of openrc in Devuan is, as usual, many versions behind.

Well since Devuan only repackages the Debian released packages it is as always Debian is so far behind the curve most times it is pathetic.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

I considered adding the deb-multimedia repository and installing it that way, but it requires very careful management and resolution of possible conflicts

Yes it certainly does you have to be careful or you end up with one hell of a mess. But then again is is not made for us it is a Debian idea though his care for respecting the build/install dependencies could be much better. You would think as a Debian developer he would know these things.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

I found that Avidemux can do most of the things that Handbrake can, with a better interface too.

It can do more even you can edit the video, combine videos together things like that. I use it all of the time the deb-multimedia.org archive I get it from has the -qt variant you can install of it, which I did.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

Man it's great ain't it? I'm in the big love right now with ffmpeg, so many things you can do.

Oh it certainly is one hell of a program a bit of a steep learning curve to it but damn the things you can do..

RedGreen925 · Devuan

can i just switch the repository back from Freia/Ceres to Excalibur or how could i freeze the OS so that i don§t get trouble once KDE 6.6 get release?
thanks.

No you are committed to them now you have upgraded libc to the newer version it is the MAIN building block of your entire operating system in Linux. Once you do that there is no going back.

I really wanted to like TDE, but it's a bit wonky to set up, and the hard dependency on Konqueror (a shitty file manager and an even shittier Web browser in one) is a major turnoff.

Old Konqueror which it is was at its time the best file manager around allowing the split view of side by side or up/down split or both if wanted. With plenty of plugins so you could sftp, ftp, ssh, smb from the address bar and need nothing else but it to do all of your work if you want. Still can in the modern version too I have numerous bookmarks that do just that to connect to my various machines using them protocols. Then of course the killer feature a split the screen in a top / bottom arrangement so you can see the entire file name and not some truncated piece of junk view that side by side view all other file managers do. Wasting all of that space that can give you a proper view of the name. It is my only browser I have used in all of these years since I first started using it and it works fantastically. I avoid the Gnome like the plague and have for decades now, gtk apps well there are some that you have no choice but to use like the Handbrake though if not feeling like going graphical I have my encoding scripts that do the same thing using the ffmpeg.

Edit:

You and me both. I do like KDE, (even the current iteration) but the development model is utterly infuriating. Sadly, warts and all, I'm not convinced there's a better "full DE" option right now.

Yes it is definitely a polished effort I will give them that but they way they have gone about it over the years has severely pissed me off to the point I do not even care to use it anymore. Who knows perhaps the LXQt will not continue to be my good enough for me to use in its place option. But I have figured out the quirks that bother me and it is working well. If not I will have to build a bridge and get over it on the KDE BS go back to it if it is even possible then.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

I'd say "definitely is", and probably soon. IME KDE will do what they always do - death by a thousand bugs. Let [thing they want gone] rot until the userbase is sufficiently annoyed, then trot out a replacement that requires [thing they want to depend on] and use it as justification for never fixing what used to work...

I see you have noticed the same as I have in my got to be twenty-five years of using it now since the pre-1.0 days all them years ago. The way they do the death by thousand cuts method of elimination. I was pissed enough at the x11 rot they did on the transition to the version 6 but seeing the deeper integration with the systemd garbage and the wayland only announce pushed me over the top and I dumped it. I went with the LXQt still uses the toolkit and same type layout but way less resources. First time in years I have seen a load under 1 on my machine and it is on a regular basis, none of this three or four BS anymore for just being logged in. I used to think those people going on about it being bloated piece of junk were just Gnome trolls, they were/are most times, but they actually had a point about the resources the damn thing used for doing next to basically nothing but showing desktop. Who knows if the Sonic people can gather enough momentum to get a fork going to allow for a reasonable means to go forward, I gave the TDE a try as well it is based on the old 3.5 code with a modern skin applies it looks good not like a Fisher Price toy OS those old skins from twenty years ago make it look like. So hopefully there will be couple of choices for people who like the free software they use to actually support freedom of choice not just pay lip service to it, while the developers kiss the ass of the parasite corporations who seek to lock down everything and tell you how to use your own computer.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

The DUR will only have the recipes. A user would need to build the package themselves with the recipes. The built packages will not be added to the main archive. Security will be on the users.
Security will be mostly on users, you basically installing random software from the internet.

That ought to work out well with that strategy you may as well be using Arch or Artix. At least they have more of the infrastructure to do it more securely.

Edit: And I would add not a single thought has gone into security with this, at least the recipes could be signed with a gpg key to add some sort of verification.

RedGreen925 · Devuan

I see very little mentioned about security. I fail to see the reason to compromise the archive with unsigned packages.

RedGreen925 · Installation

Or do I need an extra flag to get rid of the packages that came as a dependency of okular?

Use apt remove --purge okular then apt autoremove --purge when it tells you that the autoremove command can be used to remove package that are no longer required since you removed the okular. Oh when installing software you should always use apt install -s okular that will show you that you are about to install a whole extra bunch of packages to get the single program you want. If that is acceptable to you then you can remove the -s in the line to not just simulate the installing but actually do the installing.

RedGreen925 · Desktop and Multimedia

is that it will result in SDDM being abandoned

It already was I read somewhere in a posting that it had been years since a commit was made to it, just like the Xorg people and their effort kill that off with the bitrot. At this point in time anyone who seriously believes they are not going systemd only is a GD fool. And get in contact with me I have bridge for sale in Brooklyn going dirt cheap only one owner...

RedGreen925 · Desktop and Multimedia

Figures. I guess that means no more KDE on FreeBSD as well. Back to XFCE then. Well, at least if one wants to use their PLM. As long as SDDM is still compatible, we're ok?

Yes until the bitrot settles in theoretically they have left it to die for years now like the Xorg weasels have done or as I have read in places they are going to further enshitify it with systemd-home for the login. The cancer keeps spreading, you may want to look at LXQt it is what settled on after dumping KDE after more than twenty-five years of use due to this garbage they do.

RedGreen925 · Off-topic

I already have AI disabled, atleast i think i have with below user.js settings.

I thought I had everything disabled until I ran across this posting a week or so ago from my install notes.

Locked and disabled the AI garbage on both Waterfox and Firefox with the settings in this article.
https://yano.me/2025/10/locking-prefere … i-firefox/

My location where the files are to be done anyone would have to adjust to their locations.

zeus@9600k:~$ nano bin/waterfox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js
zeus@9600k:~$ cp bin/waterfox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js bin/firefox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js
zeus@9600k:~$ nano bin/waterfox/mozilla.cfg
zeus@9600k:~$ cp bin/waterfox/mozilla.cfg bin/firefox/mozilla.cfg

And if anyone is interested in moving to the new XDG specification location for Firefox >= 147 which I have kept for a backup if the waterfox ever goes tit up. Then this is the totally simple procedure I used to do it..

To move to the new XDG specification in firefox it is simpy a matter of doing this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1ql3huj/migrating_profile_with_version_147_and_the_new/

zeus@9600k:~$ mv .mozilla .config/mozilla

RedGreen925 · Desktop and Multimedia

The download of enlightenment seemed successful. is there a step i am missing?

Yes either installing a display manager where it will be listing as session option or starting it manually from its start file like is done without one. The /usr/bin/enlightenment_start

zeus@9600k:~$ apt-file list enlightenment | grep bin
enlightenment: /usr/bin/emixer
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_askpass
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_filemanager
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_fprint
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_imc
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_open
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_paledit
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_remote
enlightenment: /usr/bin/enlightenment_start
enlightenment: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/conf_bindings/e-module-conf_bindings.edj
enlightenment: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/conf_bindings/linux-gnu-x86_64-0.27.1/module.so
enlightenment: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/enlightenment/modules/conf_bindings/module.desktop

RedGreen925 · Desktop and Multimedia

"It's easy to see why it became independent again - it was a bad move to start with."

Did not stop you from spreading the trash you did though did it, so tell your lie about not spreading the hate elsewhere. Now you try to deny it when being called out for it I am not buying it or the not wanting to derail disscussion BS either, you were perfectly happy to do it with your FUD spreading.

So what is the problem with just putting it in a bin directory in your home? That is what I do with all of these things then create the .desktop file pointing to it.

zeus@9600k:~$ cat .local/share/applications/waterfox.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Waterfox
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Comment[ar]=تصفح الشبكة العنكبوتية العالمية
Comment[ast]=Restola pela Rede
Comment[bn]=ইন্টারনেট ব্রাউজ করুন
Comment[ca]=Navegueu per la web
Comment[cs]=Prohlížení stránek World Wide Webu
Comment[da]=Surf på internettet
Comment[de]=Im Internet surfen
Comment[el]=Μπορείτε να περιηγηθείτε στο διαδίκτυο (Web)
Comment[es]=Navegue por la web
Comment[et]=Lehitse veebi
Comment[fa]=صفحات شبکه جهانی اینترنت را مرور نمایید
Comment[fi]=Selaa Internetin WWW-sivuja
Comment[fr]=Naviguer sur le Web
Comment[gl]=Navegar pola rede
Comment[he]=גלישה ברחבי האינטרנט
Comment[hr]=Pretražite web
Comment[hu]=A világháló böngészése
Comment[it]=Esplora il web
Comment[ja]=ウェブを閲覧します
Comment[ko]=웹을 돌아 다닙니다
Comment[ku]=Li torê bigere
Comment[lt]=Naršykite internete
Comment[nb]=Surf på nettet
Comment[nl]=Verken het internet
Comment[nn]=Surf på nettet
Comment[no]=Surf på nettet
Comment[pl]=Przeglądaj strony WWW
Comment[pt]=Explorar a Internet com o Waterfox
Comment[pt_BR]=Navegue na Internet
Comment[ro]=Navigați pe Internet
Comment[ru]=Доступ в Интернет
Comment[sk]=Prehliadanie internetu
Comment[sl]=Brskajte po spletu
Comment[sv]=Surfa på webben
Comment[tr]=İnternet'te Gezinin
Comment[ug]=دۇنيادىكى توربەتلەرنى كۆرگىلى بولىدۇ
Comment[uk]=Перегляд сторінок Інтернету
Comment[vi]=Để duyệt các trang web
Comment[zh_CN]=浏览互联网
Comment[zh_TW]=瀏覽網際網路
GenericName=Web Browser
GenericName[ar]=متصفح ويب
GenericName[ast]=Restolador Web
GenericName[bn]=ওয়েব ব্রাউজার
GenericName[ca]=Navegador web
GenericName[cs]=Webový prohlížeč
GenericName[da]=Webbrowser
GenericName[el]=Περιηγητής διαδικτύου
GenericName[es]=Navegador web
GenericName[et]=Veebibrauser
GenericName[fa]=مرورگر اینترنتی
GenericName[fi]=WWW-selain
GenericName[fr]=Navigateur Web
GenericName[gl]=Navegador Web
GenericName[he]=דפדפן אינטרנט
GenericName[hr]=Web preglednik
GenericName[hu]=Webböngésző
GenericName[it]=Browser web
GenericName[ja]=ウェブ・ブラウザ
GenericName[ko]=웹 브라우저
GenericName[ku]=Geroka torê
GenericName[lt]=Interneto naršyklė
GenericName[nb]=Nettleser
GenericName[nl]=Webbrowser
GenericName[nn]=Nettlesar
GenericName[no]=Nettleser
GenericName[pl]=Przeglądarka WWW
GenericName[pt]=Navegador web
GenericName[pt_BR]=Navegador Web
GenericName[ro]=Navigator Internet
GenericName[ru]=Веб-браузер
GenericName[sk]=Internetový prehliadač
GenericName[sl]=Spletni brskalnik
GenericName[sv]=Webbläsare
GenericName[tr]=Web Tarayıcı
GenericName[ug]=توركۆرگۈ
GenericName[uk]=Веб-браузер
GenericName[vi]=Trình duyệt Web
GenericName[zh_CN]=网络浏览器
GenericName[zh_TW]=網路瀏覽器
Keywords=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;
Keywords[ar]=انترنت;إنترنت;متصفح;ويب;وب;
Keywords[ast]=Internet;WWW;Restolador;Web;Esplorador;
Keywords[ca]=Internet;WWW;Navegador;Web;Explorador;Explorer;
Keywords[cs]=Internet;WWW;Prohlížeč;Web;Explorer;
Keywords[da]=Internet;Internettet;WWW;Browser;Browse;Web;Surf;Nettet;
Keywords[de]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Webseite;Site;surfen;online;browsen;
Keywords[el]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Διαδίκτυο;Περιηγητής;Waterfox;Φιρεφοχ;Ιντερνετ;
Keywords[es]=Explorador;Internet;WWW;
Keywords[fi]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;selain;Internet-selain;internetselain;verkkoselain;netti;surffaa;
Keywords[fr]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Fureteur;Surfer;Navigateur;
Keywords[he]=דפדפן;אינטרנט;רשת;אתרים;אתר;פיירפוקס;מוזילה;
Keywords[hr]=Internet;WWW;preglednik;Web;
Keywords[hu]=Internet;WWW;Böngésző;Web;Háló;Net;Explorer;
Keywords[it]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Navigatore;
Keywords[is]=Internet;WWW;Vafri;Vefur;Netvafri;Flakk;
Keywords[ja]=Internet;WWW;Web;インターネット;ブラウザ;ウェブ;エクスプローラ;
Keywords[nb]=Internett;WWW;Nettleser;Explorer;Web;Browser;Nettside;
Keywords[nl]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Verkenner;Website;Surfen;Online;
Keywords[pl]=Internet;WWW;Przeglądarka;Sieć;Surfowanie;Strona internetowa;Strona;Przeglądanie;
Keywords[pt]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorador;Navegador;
Keywords[pt_BR]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorador;Navegador;
Keywords[ru]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;интернет;браузер;веб;файрфокс;огнелис;
Keywords[sk]=Internet;WWW;Prehliadač;Web;Explorer;
Keywords[sl]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Brskalnik;Splet;
Keywords[tr]=İnternet;WWW;Tarayıcı;Web;Gezgin;Web sitesi;Site;sörf;çevrimiçi;tara;
Keywords[uk]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Інтернет;мережа;переглядач;оглядач;браузер;веб;файрфокс;вогнелис;перегляд;
Keywords[vi]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;Trình duyệt;Trang web;
Keywords[zh_CN]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;网页;浏览;上网;水狐;Waterfox;wf;互联网;网站;
Keywords[zh_TW]=Internet;WWW;Browser;Web;Explorer;網際網路;網路;瀏覽器;上網;網頁;水狐;
Exec=/home/zeus/bin/waterfox/waterfox %u
Terminal=false
X-MuiltpleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=/home/zeus/.local/share/plasma_icons/waterfox.ico
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
Keywords=web;browser;internet;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;x-scheme-handler/chrome;video/webm;application/x-xpinstall;
StartupNotify=true
Actions=NewWindow;NewPrivateWindow;ProfileManagerWindow;
StartupWMClass=waterfox

[Desktop Action NewWindow]
Name=Open a New Window
Name[ach]=Dirica manyen
Name[af]=Nuwe venster
Name[an]=Nueva finestra
Name[ar]=نافذة جديدة
Name[as]=নতুন উইন্ডো
Name[ast]=Ventana nueva
Name[az]=Yeni Pəncərə
Name[be]=Новае акно
Name[bg]=Нов прозорец
Name[bn_BD]=নতুন উইন্ডো (N)
Name[bn_IN]=নতুন উইন্ডো
Name[br]=Prenestr nevez
Name[brx]=गोदान उइन्ड'(N)
Name[bs]=Novi prozor
Name[ca]=Finestra nova
Name[cak]=K'ak'a' tzuwäch
Name[cs]=Nové okno
Name[cy]=Ffenestr Newydd
Name[da]=Nyt vindue
Name[de]=Neues Fenster
Name[dsb]=Nowe wokno
Name[el]=Νέο παράθυρο
Name[en_GB]=New Window
Name[en_US]=New Window
Name[en_ZA]=New Window
Name[eo]=Nova fenestro
Name[es_AR]=Nueva ventana
Name[es_CL]=Nueva ventana
Name[es_ES]=Nueva ventana
Name[es_MX]=Nueva ventana
Name[et]=Uus aken
Name[eu]=Leiho berria
Name[fa]=پنجره جدید
Name[ff]=Henorde Hesere
Name[fi]=Uusi ikkuna
Name[fr]=Nouvelle fenêtre
Name[fy_NL]=Nij finster
Name[ga_IE]=Fuinneog Nua
Name[gd]=Uinneag ùr
Name[gl]=Nova xanela
Name[gn]=Ovetã pyahu
Name[gu_IN]=નવી વિન્ડો
Name[he]=חלון חדש
Name[hi_IN]=नया विंडो
Name[hr]=Novi prozor
Name[hsb]=Nowe wokno
Name[hu]=Új ablak
Name[hy_AM]=Նոր Պատուհան
Name[id]=Jendela Baru
Name[is]=Nýr gluggi
Name[it]=Nuova finestra
Name[ja]=新しいウィンドウ
Name[ja_JP-mac]=新規ウインドウ
Name[ka]=ახალი ფანჯარა
Name[kk]=Жаңа терезе
Name[km]=បង្អួចថ្មី
Name[kn]=ಹೊಸ ಕಿಟಕಿ
Name[ko]=새 창
Name[kok]=नवें जनेल
Name[ks]=نئئ وِنڈو
Name[lij]=Neuvo barcon
Name[lo]=ຫນ້າຕ່າງໃຫມ່
Name[lt]=Naujas langas
Name[ltg]=Jauns lūgs
Name[lv]=Jauns logs
Name[mai]=नव विंडो
Name[mk]=Нов прозорец
Name[ml]=പുതിയ ജാലകം
Name[mr]=नवीन पटल
Name[ms]=Tetingkap Baru
Name[my]=ဝင်းဒိုးအသစ်
Name[nb_NO]=Nytt vindu
Name[ne_NP]=नयाँ सञ्झ्याल
Name[nl]=Nieuw venster
Name[nn_NO]=Nytt vindauge
Name[or]=ନୂତନ ୱିଣ୍ଡୋ
Name[pa_IN]=ਨਵੀਂ ਵਿੰਡੋ
Name[pl]=Nowe okno
Name[pt_BR]=Nova janela
Name[pt_PT]=Nova janela
Name[rm]=Nova fanestra
Name[ro]=Fereastră nouă
Name[ru]=Новое окно
Name[sat]=नावा विंडो (N)
Name[si]=නව කවුළුවක්
Name[sk]=Nové okno
Name[sl]=Novo okno
Name[son]=Zanfun taaga
Name[sq]=Dritare e Re
Name[sr]=Нови прозор
Name[sv_SE]=Nytt fönster
Name[ta]=புதிய சாளரம்
Name[te]=కొత్త విండో
Name[th]=หน้าต่างใหม่
Name[tr]=Yeni pencere
Name[tsz]=Eraatarakua jimpani
Name[uk]=Нове вікно
Name[ur]=نیا دریچہ
Name[uz]=Yangi oyna
Name[vi]=Cửa sổ mới
Name[wo]=Palanteer bu bees
Name[xh]=Ifestile entsha
Name[zh_CN]=新建窗口
Name[zh_TW]=開新視窗
Exec=waterfox --new-window

[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]
Name=Open a New Private Window
Name[ach]=Dirica manyen me mung
Name[af]=Nuwe privaatvenster
Name[an]=Nueva finestra privada
Name[ar]=نافذة خاصة جديدة
Name[as]=নতুন ব্যক্তিগত উইন্ডো
Name[ast]=Ventana privada nueva
Name[az]=Yeni Məxfi Pəncərə
Name[be]=Новае акно адасаблення
Name[bg]=Нов прозорец за поверително сърфиране
Name[bn_BD]=নতুন ব্যক্তিগত উইন্ডো
Name[bn_IN]=নতুন ব্যক্তিগত উইন্ডো
Name[br]=Prenestr merdeiñ prevez nevez
Name[brx]=गोदान प्राइभेट उइन्ड'
Name[bs]=Novi privatni prozor
Name[ca]=Finestra privada nova
Name[cak]=K'ak'a' ichinan tzuwäch
Name[cs]=Nové anonymní okno
Name[cy]=Ffenestr Breifat Newydd
Name[da]=Nyt privat vindue
Name[de]=Neues privates Fenster
Name[dsb]=Nowe priwatne wokno
Name[el]=Νέο παράθυρο ιδιωτικής περιήγησης
Name[en_GB]=New Private Window
Name[en_US]=New Private Window
Name[en_ZA]=New Private Window
Name[eo]=Nova privata fenestro
Name[es_AR]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[es_CL]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[es_ES]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[es_MX]=Nueva ventana privada
Name[et]=Uus privaatne aken
Name[eu]=Leiho pribatu berria
Name[fa]=پنجره ناشناس جدید
Name[ff]=Henorde Suturo Hesere
Name[fi]=Uusi yksityinen ikkuna
Name[fr]=Nouvelle fenêtre de navigation privée
Name[fy_NL]=Nij priveefinster
Name[ga_IE]=Fuinneog Nua Phríobháideach
Name[gd]=Uinneag phrìobhaideach ùr
Name[gl]=Nova xanela privada
Name[gn]=Ovetã ñemi pyahu
Name[gu_IN]=નવી ખાનગી વિન્ડો
Name[he]=חלון פרטי חדש
Name[hi_IN]=नयी निजी विंडो
Name[hr]=Novi privatni prozor
Name[hsb]=Nowe priwatne wokno
Name[hu]=Új privát ablak
Name[hy_AM]=Սկսել Գաղտնի դիտարկում
Name[id]=Jendela Mode Pribadi Baru
Name[is]=Nýr huliðsgluggi
Name[it]=Nuova finestra anonima
Name[ja]=新しいプライベートウィンドウ
Name[ja_JP-mac]=新規プライベートウインドウ
Name[ka]=ახალი პირადი ფანჯარა
Name[kk]=Жаңа жекелік терезе
Name[km]=បង្អួចឯកជនថ្មី
Name[kn]=ಹೊಸ ಖಾಸಗಿ ಕಿಟಕಿ
Name[ko]=새 사생활 보호 모드
Name[kok]=नवो खाजगी विंडो
Name[ks]=نْو پرایوٹ وینڈو&amp;
Name[lij]=Neuvo barcon privou
Name[lo]=ເປີດຫນ້າຕ່າງສວນຕົວຂື້ນມາໃຫມ່
Name[lt]=Naujas privataus naršymo langas
Name[ltg]=Jauns privatais lūgs
Name[lv]=Jauns privātais logs
Name[mai]=नया निज विंडो (W)
Name[mk]=Нов приватен прозорец
Name[ml]=പുതിയ സ്വകാര്യ ജാലകം
Name[mr]=नवीन वैयक्तिक पटल
Name[ms]=Tetingkap Persendirian Baharu
Name[my]=New Private Window
Name[nb_NO]=Nytt privat vindu
Name[ne_NP]=नयाँ निजी सञ्झ्याल
Name[nl]=Nieuw privévenster
Name[nn_NO]=Nytt privat vindauge
Name[or]=ନୂତନ ବ୍ୟକ୍ତିଗତ ୱିଣ୍ଡୋ
Name[pa_IN]=ਨਵੀਂ ਪ੍ਰਾਈਵੇਟ ਵਿੰਡੋ
Name[pl]=Nowe okno prywatne
Name[pt_BR]=Nova janela privativa
Name[pt_PT]=Nova janela privada
Name[rm]=Nova fanestra privata
Name[ro]=Fereastră privată nouă
Name[ru]=Новое приватное окно
Name[sat]=नावा निजेराक् विंडो (W )
Name[si]=නව පුද්ගලික කවුළුව (W)
Name[sk]=Nové okno v režime Súkromné prehliadanie
Name[sl]=Novo zasebno okno
Name[son]=Sutura zanfun taaga
Name[sq]=Dritare e Re Private
Name[sr]=Нови приватан прозор
Name[sv_SE]=Nytt privat fönster
Name[ta]=புதிய தனிப்பட்ட சாளரம்
Name[te]=కొత్త ఆంతరంగిక విండో
Name[th]=หน้าต่างส่วนตัวใหม่
Name[tr]=Yeni gizli pencere
Name[tsz]=Juchiiti eraatarakua jimpani
Name[uk]=Приватне вікно
Name[ur]=نیا نجی دریچہ
Name[uz]=Yangi maxfiy oyna
Name[vi]=Cửa sổ riêng tư mới
Name[wo]=Panlanteeru biir bu bees
Name[xh]=Ifestile yangasese entsha
Name[zh_CN]=新建隐私浏览窗口
Name[zh_TW]=新增隱私視窗
Exec=waterfox --private-window

[Desktop Action ProfileManagerWindow]
Name=Open the Profile Manager
Name[cs]=Správa profilů
Name[en_GB]=Profile Manager
Name[en_US]=Profile Manager
Name[pl]=Menedżer Profili
Exec=waterfox --ProfileManager

It is rather large as the file I got from the .deb I found had all those languages enabled and got the icon file from a reddit posting.

https://software.opensuse.org//download … e=waterfox

https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comme … _waterfox/

Now this works for me in KDE if the desktop you use does not respect the XDG specification for these things I have no clue how to do it so it works.

RedGreen925 · Desktop and Multimedia

but mud sticks.

Especially when the trolls continue to spread the FUD show me one company out there who does not do it. The devs say this relationship is over, as you admit, but the FUD spreaders continue like they always do in their never ending quest to keep the hate going.

RedGreen925 · Desktop and Multimedia

You may want to check that the waterfox* files are executable the latest download of them did not have the executable set for me causing my .desktop file I made to fail when trying to start it. The -bin I did not use still does not have it set as I only put it on the waterfox itself.

zeus@9600k:~$ ls -l bin/waterfox/waterfox*
772 -rwxr-xr-x 1 zeus zeus 790352 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox*
772 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus 790352 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox-bin
  4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus   1350 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox-bin.sig
  4 -rw-r--r-- 1 zeus zeus   1350 Jan 11 07:09 bin/waterfox/waterfox.sig

Edit: And if you want to make certain all of the AI trash is disabled then this snippet from my install notes can help do that for you.

Locked and disabled the AI garbage on both Waterfox and Firefox with the settings in this article.

https://yano.me/2025/10/locking-preferences-disable-ai-firefox/

zeus@9600k:~$ nano bin/waterfox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js
zeus@9600k:~$ cp bin/waterfox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js bin/firefox/defaults/pref/local-settings.js
zeus@9600k:~$ nano bin/waterfox/mozilla.cfg
zeus@9600k:~$ cp bin/waterfox/mozilla.cfg bin/firefox/mozilla.cfg

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