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[SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

when?

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Have a look at https://www.devuan.org/. Chimaera is oldstable, but not yet archived.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

not all distro, only backports - https://backports.debian.org/news/bulls … continued/

I saw a problems with updating repo today:

E: Репозиторий «http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports Release» не содержит файла Release.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Ok....  chimaera-backports just broken now... and daedalus-backports is EOL and in archive.debian.org

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Sorry, you seem to have a silly idea how Devuan works. Even if the Debian 11 Bullseye backports is archived in Debian, it does not mean it will be archived in Devuan Chimaera. Though stopping support for Bullseye backports in Debian means that there will be no new packages coming in from Debian any more for that release.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

.. and chimaera-backports has (finally?) been removed.

Point your browser at http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists and http://archive.devuan.org/merged/dists/ to see all available repositories.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Just updated my laptop which is still running Chimaera for a reason, and I saw that no release file is present for backports anymore.

Why is Chimaera backports removed? Why is Chimaera different from e.g. Beowulf where backports still is present in the archive?

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Sorry, you seem to have a silly idea how Devuan works
Ok... I seem to have a silly idea.... but - https://archive.devuan.org/merged/dists … backports/

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Yes chimaera-backports came back. I think it got removed when bullseye-backports got removed; then bullseye-backports came back; and then after a while chimaera-backports came back. And during all that bullseye and chimaera also got archived. All done very much on purpose by Debian and Devuan "repository dev's"; I'm sure there is a story.

Perhaps it stays like it is for a while.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

bullseye-backports was allways avaliable. There was no removal. bullseye-backports was avaliable in debian archive with no delay.

And now we have no http://archive.devuan.org/merged/dists/ … slation-en in devuan archive... problem is NOT SOLVED. chimaera-backports does not working now.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

It might look odd, yes; there is Translation-en.bz2 in devuan while there is Translation-en.xz in debian. However that's the same for other (non-archived) codenames as well.

Do you get a complaint with apt-get update?

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Unfortunately yes.

This message was translated:

Reading package lists… Done
E: Failed to fetch http://archive.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-backports/main/i18n/Translation-en Connection timed out finally [IP: 116.202.138.216 80]
E: Some index files could not be downloaded. They were ignored or older versions were used instead.
root@ojs:~#

I can not update apt sources

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

I tried something like

apt-get -o Acquire::CompressionTypes::Order::=bz2 update

but it does not work

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

I'm trying to setup a test; would you mind show your sources.list, as well as the apt configurations (in /etc/apt/apt.conf  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*)?

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

user@host:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-freer

There are no problems with adoptium java repo:

user@host:~# ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 64 мая 29 14:57 adoptium.list

There was no any changes here:

user@host:~# ls -l /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  82 мая 29 14:34 00CDMountPoint
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  40 мая 29 14:34 00trustcdrom
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 630 июн 21  2021 01autoremove
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 122 мая 29 14:36 01autoremove-kernels
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 307 мар 28  2021 20listchanges
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182 июн 10  2021 70debconf

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Just pulled out my travelling laptop again.

apt update works fine w/o backports. Re-enabling the standard "deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged" backports throws a "Release file not found" error. Starngely enough it works with "deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged".

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

(I assume "freer" is a misspelling)

I can't replicate the problem, but an access timeout may have many reasons.
Does the "same thing" happen every time?

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

ralph.ronnquist
(I assume "freer" is a misspelling)
No, I copied one more additional symbol from next line

Does the "same thing" happen every time?
Unfortunatelly yes.

Now I am using this mirror http://mirror.mephi.ru/devuan/devuan/di … backports/ - it is actually ru.devuan.org and have no problems.

rolfie
not

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged backports

but

deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

I don't understand how you get to http://mirror.mephi.ru/devuan/devuan/di … backports/ from your sources.list ... and what relevance that has here

I'm (also) using the same list:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free

and don't have any problem.

# apt-get update
Get:1 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports InRelease [26.5 kB]  
Get:2 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main all Packages [176 kB]
Get:3 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 Packages [408 kB]
Get:4 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main Translation-en [370 kB]
Get:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease [33.5 kB]                
Get:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease [26.6 kB]       
Get:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates InRelease [26.1 kB]        
Get:8 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib all Packages [2632 B]
Get:9 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib amd64 Packages [6216 B]
Get:10 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib Translation-en [6345 B]
Get:11 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free all Packages [4936 B]
Get:12 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages [8310 kB]     
Get:13 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free amd64 Packages [14.7 kB]
Get:14 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free Translation-en [32.2 kB]
Get:15 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main Translation-en [6476 kB]     
Get:16 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib amd64 Packages [50.7 kB]  
Get:17 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib Translation-en [46.9 kB]  
Get:18 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free amd64 Packages [98.3 kB] 
Get:19 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free Translation-en [91.4 kB] 
Get:20 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages [392 kB]
Get:21 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main Translation-en [281 kB]
Get:22 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib amd64 Packages [2908 B]
Get:23 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib Translation-en [2722 B]
Get:24 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free amd64 Packages [1200 B]
Get:25 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free Translation-en [1274 B]
Get:26 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main amd64 Packages [17.9 kB]
Get:27 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main Translation-en [10.8 kB]
Fetched 16.9 MB in 23s (731 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done

Perhaps remove all files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and then try apt-get update again.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

There is no devuan archive mirrors and current morror (hosting provider?) blocks some networks (not all) in my country. I have no access to mirror from Universiry network and have no problems in home network.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Hi, is the info in this thread still accurate?

I just tried to set up a Devuan Chimaera install I still had around to build a new kernel (long story!), something I'd apparently never done before because make complained that the `bindep-pkg` target wasn't known.

```
> sudo apt-get install packaging-dev
SNIP
0 upgraded, 136 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
SNIP
Err:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 autodep8 all 0.28~bpo11+2
  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:400::644 80]
SNIP
Err:22 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 devscripts amd64 2.22.2~bpo11+1                                 
  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:400::644 80]
SNIP
Err:115 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 python3-jwt all 2.1.0-1~bpo11+1                                 
  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:400::644 80]
SNIP
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/ … +2_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:400::644 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/ … _amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:400::644 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/ … +1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:400::644 80]
```

IIUC, my install tries to fetch the failing packages from a debian.org server - is that supposed to happen?

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Did you update your copies of the repository meta files first (apt-get update)?

It does sound like you did, and then perhaps something has been removed from debian's pool. I'm not sure the chimaera merge is still happening automatically, so we'll need to check that.

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Re: [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org

Use archive.devuan.org for chimaera-backports.

~$ apt policy devscripts
devscripts:
  Installed: 2.21.3+deb11u1
  Candidate: 2.21.3+deb11u1
  Version table:
     2.22.2~bpo11+1 100
        100 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2.21.3+deb11u1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status