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Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

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Re: Devuan 6 Extremely Poor Quality Control.

Hello:

... not Devuan's fault, Devuan is unsystemded Debian.

+1

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A.

greenjeans

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Re: Devuan 6 Extremely Poor Quality Control.

I'm just gonna say it out loud.

Debian has been steadily spiraling towards more issues, and the reason is:

All their best devs left them 10 years ago.

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Camtaf

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Re: Devuan 6 Extremely Poor Quality Control.

Really...why did they leave?

tux_99

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Re: Devuan 6 Extremely Poor Quality Control.

@camtaf greenjeans is probably saying that the best Debian devs where the ones that left Debian because of systemd and they moved on to create Devuan instead.

There is probably some truth to it, no experienced and self respecting dev with Unix background would put up with such an abomination that systemd is.

Last edited by tux_99 (2026-01-24 13:53:48)

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greenjeans

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Re: Devuan 6 Extremely Poor Quality Control.

@camtaf greenjeans is probably saying that the best Debian devs where the ones that left Debian because of systemd and they moved on to create Devuan instead.

Bingo.

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wolfdaemon

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Re: Devuan 6 Extremely Poor Quality Control.

Really...why did they leave?

@camtaf greenjeans is probably saying that the best Debian devs where the ones that left Debian because of systemd and they moved on to create Devuan instead. :smile:

There is probably some truth to it, no experienced and self respecting dev with Unix background would put up with such an abomination that systemd is.

I'd also mention that Devuan isn't filled with degenerate virtue-signalling commies that make it a significant side quest (at best) to hate on, police, and disparage (I'd imagine previously) significant portions of their userbase (White people, men, sexually normal/vanilla, non-commie, or any mixture of those in between).

If "anti-facist" registered child sex offenders like Jeremy Bicha (because, at least he's not a gasp n-n-natzeee am I right guys??) are still allowed to be a publically active, contributing member of Debian -- well then it makes perfect sense as to why people would no longer try to assist keep the trains chugging over there.

Last edited by wolfdaemon (2026-01-29 19:56:51)

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ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Devuan 6 Extremely Poor Quality Control.

opinions are fun, aren't they? One can have any number of them, and there are still more to collect.

And I agree with some that it's time to close this thread.