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Mike-thinky

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Registered: 2021-10-28

Posts: 78  

Printer suddenly stopped working recently

Hi, as title printer used to work, but has recently refused to print.
Error messages in /var/log/cups/error_log:
W [07/Nov/2024:11:17:58 +0000] CreateProfile failed: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id \'EPSON_WF_5190_Series-Gray..\' already exist
...
W [07/Nov/2024:11:17:58 +0000] CreateProfile failed: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id \'EPSON_WF_5190_Series-Gray..\' already exist
...
W [15/Jan/2025:10:27:21 +0000] [Job 2] /var/spool/cups/d00002-001 (object 3 0, offset 11412): dictionary has duplicated key /x29; last occurrence overrides earlier ones
...
W [11/May/2025:16:59:05 +0100] CreateProfile failed: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id \'EPSON_WF_5190_Series-DeviceN..\' already exists
...
E [14/May/2025:13:10:44 +0100] [Job 16] No suitable destination host found by cups-browsed.
W [14/May/2025:13:10:44 +0100] [Job 16] Backend returned status 6 (retry job later)
...
D [14/May/2025:13:36:26 +0100] [Job 16] Read cups-browsed-dest-printer option: \"18 NO_DEST_FOUND\"
...E [09/Jun/2025:13:45:55 +0100] [Job 20] No destination host name supplied by cups-browsed for printer \"EPSON_WF_5190_Series\", is cups-browsed running?
W [09/Jun/2025:13:45:55 +0100] [Job 20] Backend returned status 4 (stop printer)

There are others in the logs, but lots of duplicate messages

Any suggestions to track down and fix this?
It may be I have been bitten by the cups updates?

Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 1,919  

Re: Printer suddenly stopped working recently

Hello:

... printer used to work, but has recently refused to print.

For lack of a better reply, I'd say that what you have is a very specific CUPS issue.

... suggestions to track down and fix this?

Unfortunately, Apple Corp. has blocked all acess to the huge source of data/information that were the CUPS archives.

That said, there is are new lists set up by the chap who wrote CUPS:

See here for general instructions:
https://subspace.kernel.org/subscribing.html

See here for specific CUPS lists instructions:
https://subspace.kernel.org/lists.linux.dev.html

For printing-architecture
subscribe       printing-architecture+subscribe@lists.linux.dev   
unsubscribe   printing-architecture+unsubscribe@lists.linux.dev
posting          printing-architecture@lists.linux.dev
archive          https://lore.kernel.org/printing-architecture/

For printing-users
subscribe      printing-users+subscribe@lists.linux.dev
unsubscribe  printing-users+unsubscribe@lists.linux.dev
posting          printing-users@lists.linux.dev
archive          https://lore.kernel.org/printing-users/

The background to all this hassle, more specifically, the archives at https://lists.cups.org/pipermail/cups/:

Up to (at least) May last year, the archive was accessible to anyone, suscribed or not.
Those suscribed to the list could post to all list members by sending mail to cups@cups.org
Just like most standard issue mailing lists ...

Some time ago I needed to look up something and found that attempting to access the archives
returned a *403 Forbidden* page.

A mail to cups-owner@cups org got me this reply:
---
More recent cups related stuff can be found at openprinting.org.
When apple bought cups, those lists went to their servers.
Mike quietly left apple years ago, and it appears that apple has removed the lists.
They own "cups". So Mike had to make a new name.
---
'Mike' obviously refers to Michael Sweet who left Apple in December 2019.

Unfortunately, a further email asking for more information went unanswered.
Bad vibes ...

It seems that I can still post to the list (ie: email does not bounce) and I receive other people's
posts containing replies so the list works, but the thread is not accessible.

I then posted to the OpenPrinting GitHub page asking about this and right away received a
reply from M.R. Sweet himself:

https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/discussions/1237

---
Unfortunately, lists.cups.org is an Apple-managed site and we have no control over its
contents or configuration...
The printing-users and printing-architecture lists on kernel.org are the current place for
discussing printing-related issues.
---

The thing is that all this went down without *any* notice sent to the list and the wealth of information that made up the archives are, thanks to the assholes at Apple Corp., lost to any and everyone who ever posted anything there.

The first example of such shitty behaviour came from yet another well known corporation (Oracle): after taking over Sun Microsystems, they blocked all access (mailing lists and downlaods) to anyone without a $ervice contract.

Best,

A.

Last edited by Altoid (2025-06-09 22:52:15)

igorzwx

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Registered: 2024-05-06

Posts: 420  

Re: Printer suddenly stopped working recently

If you google "No suitable destination host found by cups-browsed," you get:
"SOLVED: no suitable destination host found by cups-browsed"
_https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=380704
“No suitable Destination Host found by cups-browsed”
_https://askubuntu.com/questions/1128164/no-suitable-destination-host-found-by-cups-browsed
and a lot of similar links

Possible solutions:

apt purge cups-browsed

_https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=380704

First: uninstall cups-browsed

sudo apt-get purge --autoremove cups-browsed

Next: Restart your computer

Finally manually add your printer
_https://askubuntu.com/a/1128869

Mike-thinky

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Registered: 2021-10-28

Posts: 78  

Re: Printer suddenly stopped working recently

I can see a lot of reading to do...

In Cups, on the admin page for an unprinted job I get this message:
"No destination host name supplied by cups-browsed for printer "EPSON_WF_5190_Series", is cups-browsed running?"

Duke Nukem

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Registered: 2018-11-07

Posts: 46  

Re: Printer suddenly stopped working recently

This behaviour has been reported for some years across all distros and seems to be a bug in cups-browsed. I found that every few print jobs it would would come up with the "No destination host name .." message. cups-browsed is a daemon that automatically finds printers on a network and seems to need to do this each time you print (instead of remembering anything). It fails to do so if it (or Cups itself) considers that the printer is "Paused", even though there is no reason for it to be. I found that unpausing the printer in the Cups control panel does not solve it - it goes back to "Paused" when I try again to print.

Maybe you can uninstall cups-browsed if your printer is directly attached to your PC, which is perhaps why some people have solved it by simply uninstalling it, but that didn't work for me on a network. Some have said you can uninstall cups-browsed as long as you arrange Cups to use the printer's fixed network address, by editing the Cups config files, but I've never tried that.

What works for me is restarting cups-browsed  :

systemctl restart cups-browsed

Last edited by Duke Nukem (Today 10:16:50)

stultumanto

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Registered: 2023-12-12

Posts: 126  

Re: Printer suddenly stopped working recently

systemctl restart cups-browsed

I'm not currently running cups on any of my systems, but keep in mind Devuan doesn't have systemd, and therefore doesn't use systemctl. You're probably going to want something more like this:

service cups-browsed restart