devuan and debian links

jacksprat · Yesterday 10:15:11

Sorry if the answer to this question is obvious, but: is there currently ANY dependency of Devuan on Debian? Or is their development now completely disconnected? Thanks.

fsmithred · Yesterday 11:58:24

Most of the packages in devuan are not actually stored in the devuan repository. They get pulled directly from debian servers, merged with our repo so it appears as one and "filtered" on our servers by amprolla to block any packages that depend on systemd. (These: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt)
We only fork around 100 packages. You can tell a forked package by the presence of "devuan" in the version.

jacksprat · Yesterday 12:29:21

Thanks. Do you detect any efforts by team Debian to increase the work involved by this process, or is it stable?

fsmithred · Yesterday 14:38:09

Yes, the number of banned and forked packages increases with each release. In the banned packages list, compare columns 1, 5, A, F and K for a visual representation of this. (Beowulf, Chimaera, Daedalus, Excalibur and Ceres)

jacksprat · Yesterday 15:31:59

Thanks, that was useful [once I removed the trailing ")" from the pkgmaster.. link]. So the growth in workload is slow from release to release. I'll go quiet now.

fsmithred · Yesterday 17:50:25

Oops! Thanks, I fixed the link.

Yeah, there's a slow and steady effort to reduce users' choices.

ralph.ronnquist · Yesterday 22:21:21

And those who like graphs could peep at
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/log/unstable-banned.svg
for a dependency picture of the banned packages for unstable.

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devuan and debian links

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