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semil

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Registered: 2023-08-05

Posts: 25  

X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot

This is happening on my occasionally-used 32-bit x86 computer. It seems to have started with the X11 updates that came maybe a week ago.

I startx, and get xf86OpenConsole: Switching VT failed

and the Xorg log has xf86OpenConsole: VT_ACTIVATE failed: Bad file descriptor

Not a lot of detail.

The second startx has been succeeding.

fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

Posts: 2,564  

Re: X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot

I can only offer a data point - it's not happening here running daedalus on asus EEE with 686-pae kernel, minimal lxqt with no display manager. Tested before and after latest upgrade which gave me xserver-xorg-core and xserver-common.

ralph.ronnquist

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From: Battery Point, Tasmania, AUS

Registered: 2016-11-30

Posts: 1,340  

Re: X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot

"before latest upgrade", "after latest upgrade" as well as "updates that came maybe a week ago" are all pretty lousy version identifiers.

fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

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Re: X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot

Before:
2:21.1.7-3+deb12u8devuan1

After:
2:21.1.7-3+deb12u9devuan1

apt policy xserver-common  # same output for xserver-xorg-core
 *** 2:21.1.7-3+deb12u9devuan1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:21.1.7-3+deb12u8devuan1 100
        100 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates/main i386 Packages
     2:21.1.7-3+deb12u7devuan1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main i386 Packages

Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 1,656  

Re: X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot

Hello:

... daedalus on asus EEE with 686-pae kernel ...

An OT question, if I may: what Asus EEE model would that be?

I have been running my 1000HE (Intel N280 Atom / 2.0Gb) on Chimaera (5.10.0-0.deb10.16-686-pae) for a long while now and was wondering if it would make sense to move on to Daedalus.

Best,

A.

fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

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Re: X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot

1101HAB  Atom Z520 @1.33GHz  2G RAM and 128GB SSD
Daedalus and Excalibur work on it.
Every new release gets bigger.

Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 1,656  

Re: X11 recently failing to start the first time after boot

Hello:

1101HAB  Atom Z520 @1.33GHz  2G RAM and 128GB SSD

I see.
Seashell (?), larger screen (?) than mine.

Every new release gets bigger.

Yes.
I've noticed that.

Like I wrote in another non-related thread:

--- snip ---
Devuan Chimaera netinstall *.iso: 372.00 MB - UEFI installer: 00.754 MB
Devuan Daedalus netinstall *.iso: 477.80 MB - UEFI installer:  23.00  MB

30X more code has been added to the UEFI partition on the road between Chimaera and Daedalus.

Does anyone really know exactly what all that added code does?
--- snip ---

I'll stay with Chimaera then, maybe go for a backported kernel if I can find a justification for doing so.
The hardware will certainly not change so at some point in the future it may well be a good idea to roll a custom kernel for it and leave it at that.

The 1000HE is the best piece of portable hardware I ever purchased (used in 2011).

Thanks for the data.

Best,

A.