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#1 2025-02-23 08:31:30

devur
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ddr3 sdram upgrade

I'm looking for a ddr3 sdram for my old lenovo w530 pc and found a ram from mushkin essentials that looks right, it's 104 pin 8gb and at a very good price, but there's a few pieces of information in their specifications that I don't understand, they write that there's no 'V - not buffer - not ECC', does anyone know anything about it and can clarify the question for me.


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#2 2025-02-23 09:27:27

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

no 'V - not buffer - not ECC',

No clue on the V - not buffer, there is buffered and unbuffered memory, but the not ECC is what you want for it. The error correcting (ECC) memory is used for servers not consumer machines like a laptop. Perhaps you could post link to the memory so people can see the exact model you are thinking of buying.

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#3 2025-02-23 10:20:05

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

Yes a link to the Danish site is her
https://www.computersalg.dk/i/1067957/m … t-ikke-ecc


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#4 2025-02-23 10:26:49

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

From what I find online, that isn't the right kind of ram.....

MEMORY Lenovo ThinkPad W530
RAM     4 GB (1 x 4 GB)
Max RAM Supported     16 GB
RAM Type     DDR3 SDRAM
Speed     1600 MHz / PC3-12800
Rated Speed     1600 MHz
Form Factor     SO-DIMM 204-pin

However, having said that the speed between 4GB & 8GB of ram won't be that great, (I use 2, 4, & 8GB machines) - I think a better upgrade would be changing to an SSD disk from that old spinner...

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#5 2025-02-23 11:06:16

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

Ok I will look a little further and most likely upgrade
the ram at some point
Thanks


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#6 2025-02-23 11:29:16

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

maybe i was a little too fast there
i have an ssd 128 gb that can be inserted instead of dwd
but is there a method to configure it as a buffer
and is it possible and useful


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#7 2025-02-23 13:45:21

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

I was suggesting replacing the internal HDD with an SSD, as it would give quicker booting & access to programs & files.

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#8 2025-02-23 16:33:13

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

i have an ssd 128 gb that can be inserted instead of dwd
but is there a method to configure it as a buffer
and is it possible and useful

Depends on how it is setup by the replacement device used. If it is a direct connection to the internal Hard Drive controller allowing it to boot the machine then it can be damn useful. That type of arrangement can be the same as replacing the internal hard drive. You need to determine the way it connects to the machine, the speed of the connection it gets when in it. But generally it is good to try and use it as your install to boot from to see if it will speed up your machine. If Camtaf is correct with the specifications he posts for your machine and it has four slots with maximum capacity of 16GB for the machine then the ram you show is incorrect for your machine as the most it will take are 4GB higher speed modules and you link to are 8GB. Before buying anything make certain of the return policies in the event what you get does not work with your machine.

Now I have looked for them this place suggests 32GB or 4 X 8GB modules are supported.

https://memory.net/product-category/len … 30-series/

As does the Kingston web site.

https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/sear … 530-series

And this German site says the same thing as well.

https://www.compuram.biz/memory/lenovo/ … quad-core/

The one thing they all have in common is the 1600mhz for the ram speed, if replacing your ram in the end then this is the speed you need to get to run it at its full potential. And as I have already said make certain any place you buy from has no questions asked no hassle returns policy. There  is no sense wasting your money if you find what you have bought does not work properly and they will not let you return it.

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#9 2025-02-24 07:23:06

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

OP doesn't state current amount of ram, nor type/performance of main/boot HDD/SDD

is OP having a specific issue or just desire to update/upgrade machine?

what about watching for a newer/better used machine to become available at the right price?


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#10 2025-02-24 08:01:15

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

iam not about too reinstall my pc, i haw a new 1t hd and a dublet boot devuan /peppermint, that make mi happy as it is  smile 

it seems to me that the suggestion is to buy 2 x 4 GB of ram as an update and save a little on the purchase.

regarding whether i can use my ssd as a buffer memory, i will need some more info on how to investigate and implementation


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#11 2025-02-24 12:58:39

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

Hello:

... ddr3 sdram for my old lenovo w530 pc ...

Check the manual, specifically pages 13 and 82.

Edit:
You may also want to read this post at one of the better known thinkpad forums.

Best,

A.

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#12 2025-02-24 13:22:11

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

regarding whether i can use my ssd as a buffer memory, i will need some more info on how to investigate and implementation

Forget about this idea. This was promoted for a while by Intel, they also had a product for that, and Seagate also had some hard disks with SSD cache on board in the portfolio, but never was really adopted in a bigger scale. This is sort of dead by now.

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#13 2025-02-25 16:04:59

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

I bought the ram so now I see if it was necessary.
I was wondering if expanding the swap partition is worth anything,
If so I guess I have to force some of my processes over to it as well


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#14 2025-02-25 17:02:33

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Re: ddr3 sdram upgrade

If I am not mistaken you got 16G of RAM. Thats more than enough for a normal Devuan office use. You could easily allow 4G for a VM and not notice any performance limitations. Prerequisite: limit the number of open tabs in your browser.

A swap larger than the RAM is only required if you want to use hibernation.

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