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Chudix

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Registered: 2024-08-30

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Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

Device: MSI MS-1551 Laptop

Using the all-in-one DVD installer, AMD64 clearly.

After a bit of searching I determined that something called conman may be wireless related, but using it is not obvious to me.

Should I install something else along with LXQT, or go with another DE altogether like KDE?

I want to try LXQT to see if file uploaders with Brave will work if I use something non-GTK as my desktop environment. I want to get as far away from anything the Gnome foundation breathes on as I can.

Last edited by Chudix (2024-08-30 19:36:56)

fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

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Re: Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

You should have gotten nm-tray and network-manager with lxqt. Make sure nm-tray is in your desktop startup apps.
Preferences -> LXQT Settings -> Session Settings -> Autostart

Did you install from the DVD without a network mirror? If so, you would be missing a lot of network related packages, even firefox.

Chudix

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Re: Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

I just checked Synaptic, neither nm-tray or network-manager are installed.

During the installation I checked only the LXQT option. I unchecked the Devuan desktop environment option.

I think I logged into my wifi, though I don't remember it asking me to pick a proxy to download software from. I'll do a reinstall and double check that this happens when I pick a proxy.

edit

Actually, I had 2 things checked: LXQT and the bottom option for standard system utilities.

edit

Just did yet another install, checked LXQT, standard system utilities, (I'm remembering here) console niceties, SSH server, and web server.

Still no nm-tray or network manager, and this time I verified that I logged in correctly to my wifi and that I selected a network proxy.

Last edited by Chudix (2024-08-31 18:38:48)

delgado

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Registered: 2022-07-14

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Re: Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

After a bit of searching I determined that something called conman may be wireless related, but using it is not obvious to me.

You can have either connman or network manager. The packages are mutually exclusive.

ralph.ronnquist

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Re: Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

The best however is to not use any of those configuration scramblers, but to settle for the original ifupdown system together with wpagui. With those you are seated with maximal flexibility, simple configuration basis by editing text file(s) and a fantastic opportunity catering for any custom networking landscaping.

All it takes is a bit of knowledge which is acquired by means of reading -- reading man pages, starting with man interfaces. Knowledge is power. When you give knowledge away for an idea of convenience, then you lose.

Chudix

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Registered: 2024-08-30

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Re: Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

You can have either connman or network manager. The packages are mutually exclusive.

I encountered the "No carrier" error as per ArchWiki

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ConnMa … No_carrier

Error /net/connman/technology/wifi: No carrier
You have enabled your wifi with:

$ connmanctl enable wifi

If wireless scanning leads to above error, this may be due to an unresolved bug. If it does not resolve even though wireless preconditions[dead link 2023-09-16 ⓘ] are met, try again after disabling competing network managers and rebooting.

This may also simply be caused by the wireless interface being blocked by rfkill, which can occur after restarting wpa_supplicant. Use rfkill list to check.

The program rfkill is not installed.

The best however is to not use any of those configuration scramblers, but to settle for the original ifupdown system together with wpagui. With those you are seated with maximal flexibility, simple configuration basis by editing text file(s) and a fantastic opportunity catering for any custom networking landscaping.

All it takes is a bit of knowledge which is acquired by means of reading -- reading man pages, starting with man interfaces. Knowledge is power. When you give knowledge away for an idea of convenience, then you lose.

Neither ifupdown or wpagui is installed.

It's not a huge issue as there are other options., I'll try LXQT with the Devuan desktop environment enabled to see if that fixes things without causing more problems, and if not then I'll try to the other desktop environments with and without the Devuan desktop environment.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

rolfie

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Registered: 2017-11-25

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Re: Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

Do not expect that you will get an automatic installation and configuration of your wifi stuff. Linux is not like Windows.

If the required packages aren't part of the meta-package that installs the desktop, they are simply not there. You will have to add your choice manually.

chris2be8

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Registered: 2018-08-11

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Re: Daedalus LXQT-only installs no wireless manager?

ifupdown is the name of the suite. It's 3 programs, ifup, ifdown and ifquery (through they are actually the same program called by different names). See their man pages for details.

As a note, it's better to use whereis to check if something is installed. It will find it even if it's not in your path (eg: it might be in /sbin) or only has a man page.