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bai4Iej2need

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From: Ortenau

Registered: 2021-04-25

Posts: 128  

missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Hi
Recently I installed 3 computers from scratch. they should have the same desktop appearance. mate desktop, no big deal.
However they came out different. In one install the mate desktop/ panel / system menus / shutdown button is missing
Did not find out how to get it back. the other 2 have it.

All three have different HW and age. (2010 2 cores, 2017 2 cores, 2019 12 cores)
I now wonder why 2 have the shutdown button but the one of 2010 not. Although it had it before the HDD crash.

Last edited by bai4Iej2need (2023-05-09 13:54:07)

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rolfie

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Registered: 2017-11-25

Posts: 1,331  

Re: missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Investigate what caused the HDD crash, and attribute the change to the crash.

bai4Iej2need

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From: Ortenau

Registered: 2021-04-25

Posts: 128  

Re: missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Investigate what caused the HDD crash, and attribute the change to the crash.

The HDD crash was caused by the old age and 11 years of operation . 
Certain ranges in my home directory were affected, but that has been fixed with backups. nothing in /etc /usr/ was affected
As I have written, the install was from scratch.

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fsmithred

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Registered: 2016-11-25

Posts: 2,735  

Re: missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Make sure policykit-1-gnome is installed. If that doesn't do it, check some other discussions here about the same thing. If all the installs are supposed to be the same, compare the package lists. This will create a package list:

dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $2 }' > package-list

chris2be8

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Registered: 2018-08-11

Posts: 348  

Re: missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Assuming the system where the mate components are missing is the one that had the HDD crash:

Check the config files in your home dir. And compare them with the systems that are OK. That sounds the most likely cause if the OS is identical.

bai4Iej2need

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From: Ortenau

Registered: 2021-04-25

Posts: 128  

Re: missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Make sure policykit-1-gnome is installed.

Yes it is installed.

Check the config files in your home dir.

I checked ,  the problem is not in the $HOME.

Thanks for the help, this hint is leading to the right direction.

When starting both as user 1000 or 1001 , the item is not there.
But doing startx as root, the shutdown menu item it present.
therefore everything is installed as should be,
giving the users >=1000 the rights to access the shutdown menu will solve the puzzle.

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broken by design :
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chris2be8

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Registered: 2018-08-11

Posts: 348  

Re: missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Compare what groups the users are in on the faulty system and both the working systems. And how sudo (or doas) is configured on them.

bai4Iej2need

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From: Ortenau

Registered: 2021-04-25

Posts: 128  

Re: missing shutdown menu item in mate desktop/ panel / system menus

Now I found the difference
bad computer :

May  9 16:10:25 lenovo-r500 x-session-manager[6629]: WARNING: Could not make DBUS call: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: Permission denied

Now I fight these strange program names, which are not reflected in the ps -tree

May  9 16:14:31 lenovo-r500 dbus-daemon[1789]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' requested by ':1.1497' (uid=1000 pid=8547 comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-") (using servicehelper)
May  9 16:14:31 lenovo-r500 dbus-daemon[1789]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' failed: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: Permission denied
May  9 16:14:31 lenovo-r500 dbus-daemon[1789]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' requested by ':1.0' (uid=0 pid=2142 comm="elogind-daemon ") (using servicehelper)
May  9 16:14:31 lenovo-r500 dbus-daemon[1789]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1' failed: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: Permission denied

The command 

comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-"

line is not complete
the only file in the directory is named /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1
The command is given to the dbus daemon dynamically, not in the commandline

apt-file search /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1
mate-polkit: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1

I reinstalled mate-polkit, but the wrong command is created somewhere upstream dbus-daemon

netstat -pe | grep 1789 
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1843695  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     15114    1789/dbus-daemon     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1844316  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     15115    1789/dbus-daemon     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1843633  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     17893    2518/ntpd            
unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    2220616  1789/dbus-daemon     
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     17894    2518/ntpd            
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1843969  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1843355  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     2188007  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1843535  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1843493  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     1844931  1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     VERBUNDEN     17598    1789/dbus-daemon     /run/dbus/system_bus_socket

Last edited by bai4Iej2need (2023-05-10 10:26:45)

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The devil, you know, is better than the angel, you don't know. by a British Citizen, I don't know too good.
One generation abandons the enterprises of another like stranded vessels. By Henry David Thoreau, WALDEN, Economy. Line 236 (Gutenberg text Version)
broken by design :
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=958390