Show your desktop (rebooted)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-01-30 12:01:12

Ogis1975 wrote:

I also use emacs

With only 4GiB of RAM? That must be a squeeze...

Anyway, Devuan chimaera with a fully functional GNOME Wayland desktop?

Oh yes. The Wastebasket in nautilus even works. And with a proper text editor as well

This should be an option in the netinstall tasksel section IMO. I know it's perverse but some users like that.

EDIT: changed full size link to show just the image with no adverts or irritating javascript.

EDIT2: changed to JetBrains Mono terminal font.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-01-30 12:17:46)

hevidevi · 2022-01-31 07:35:39

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Ogis1975 wrote:
I also use emacs
With only 4GiB of RAM? That must be a squeeze...
Anyway, Devuan chimaera with a fully functional GNOME Wayland desktop?
https://i.postimg.cc/WFL8gC8Q/Screenshot-from-2022-01-30-12-16-12.png
Oh yes. The Wastebasket in nautilus even works. And with a proper text editor as well
This should be an option in the netinstall tasksel section IMO. I know it's perverse but some users like that.
EDIT: changed full size link to show just the image with no adverts or irritating javascript.
EDIT2: changed to JetBrains Mono terminal font.

Yeah ive no issues with it on Chimaera.

daedalus/ceres is a different story, bugs abound which is to be expected. Yet on Artix linux (systemd free arch fork) gnome just works.

My daily driver is a dwm window manager only though, but i like to see how gnome is progressing.

Last edited by hevidevi (2022-01-31 07:36:49)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-01-31 19:26:24

hevidevi wrote:

daedalus/ceres is a different story, bugs abound which is to be expected. Yet on Artix linux (systemd free arch fork) gnome just works.

Arch is a rolling release so the packages are always updated in synchrony. Testing/unstable are development branches so they just throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

The only problem with Arch (and by extension Artix) at the moment is their ancient glibc — it will go two versions behind when v2.35 is released tomorrow and they aren't applying patches. Gory details here. It's not a massive problem for me because I just use my laptop for recreational purposes but if you're using Artix for anything serious it might be best to look at Alpine instead (their musl libc is both up to date and inherently more secure than GNU's libc) because ceres/sid is also stuck on v2.33, albeit patched.

Back on topic with my Arch box:

It's almost exactly the same as last time but I've switched from xterm to foot. Caleb (one of the TUs) has very kindly adopted it and added it to [community], which is nice.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-01-31 19:29:51)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-02-04 17:57:30

Got Slack:

Interesting release but the default Lilo configuration failed so I had to install GRUB from a chroot and the recommended install takes up ~16GiB, which is frankly ridiculous.

EDIT: for comparison I have an Alpine Linux VM using sway that I'm about to transfer to my hard drive that takes up 882MiB.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-02-04 17:59:50)

Kelsoo · 2022-02-05 01:40:43

^
Don't talk wet

You I and everyone else knows a Default Slackware install includes loads of crap because there is no dependency checking. It's a big fat system that is expected to only be patched as and when required (think like next update in 5 years).

Many Slackers will criticize minimal Slackware installs as "Not Slackware". Storage is cheap, Even though I try and run light, gone are the days of me taking my 100mb zip disk to collage to store my Graphic design work on!

That doesn't meant you cant build a lighter Slackware system. For that you use tags. Even that in my opinion is shit because that's not how it's designed to work.

If you want to compare Apples at least compare them against other Apples.... Not Oranges

I have 2 Slackware based machines. One full install (well one freenix so I guess not full full) but close. Another minimal tag based and my builds. (maybe a couple hundred packages). No where near as light as my D2 base system but light compared to may other systems.

A more useful comparison would be your Alpine system with and without wayland.

Dryanuary is well and truly over! Have fun and is your Alpine system running "Bonkers Gnome" :-)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-02-05 10:48:05

Kelsoo wrote:

Storage is cheap

Not for anybody using one of the current generation of budget laptops which all come with 30GiB eMMC storage devices with no upgrade options for it. A "recommended" Slackware system would fill that up quicker than Windows FFS.

Kelsoo wrote:

A more useful comparison would be your Alpine system with and without wayland.

Tricky to get a fair comparison but here's df -h from a fresh installation with only the amdgpu & rtw89 firmware packages installed:

Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                 10.0M         0     10.0M   0% /dev
shm                       3.9G         0      3.9G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/vda3                 7.2G    157.6M      6.7G   2% /
tmpfs                     1.6G     92.0K      1.6G   0% /run
/dev/vda1                88.2M     25.5M     55.7M  31% /boot

Here's the output with a fully-working sway desktop (including the foot terminal emulator, mesa, libinput, eudev and seatd):

Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                 10.0M         0     10.0M   0% /dev
shm                       3.9G         0      3.9G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/vda3                 7.2G    257.4M      6.6G   4% /
tmpfs                     1.6G    252.0K      1.6G   0% /run
/dev/vda1                88.2M     25.5M     55.7M  31% /boot

So that's about 100MiB, which isn't bad for a full graphical desktop.

Note that an openbox/tint2 desktop takes up more space thanks to the xorg-server & xinit packages:

Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs                 10.0M         0     10.0M   0% /dev
shm                       3.9G         0      3.9G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/vda3                 7.2G    288.4M      6.5G   4% /
tmpfs                     1.6G    232.0K      1.6G   0% /run
/dev/vda1                88.2M     25.5M     55.7M  31% /boot

And it also uses more memory:

              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.8G      150.8M        7.5G        4.1M      138.8M        7.4G
Swap:          2.5G           0        2.5G

Compared to sway:

              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.8G      145.2M        7.5G        9.7M      167.6M        7.4G
Swap:          2.5G           0        2.5G

Wayland ftw!

Kelsoo wrote:

is your Alpine system running "Bonkers Gnome"

No, that would be silly

EDIT: screenshot to stay on topic:

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-02-05 11:16:40)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-02-05 15:49:50

Spammy double-post time!

Copied the VM to bare metal and got it configured. The setup is beautiful — sway in Alpine used to have the setuid bit applied but now it relies on seatd instead (which is *much* better than the elogind bloat-monster). The memory usage looks high but that's because the machine has 32GiB of RAM, the same desktop on Arch is over 400MiB at a bare desktop just after boot.

They've even ported over systemd-boot (under it's old name of gummiboot) so I can use a unified kernel image signed with my SecureBoot keys & EFI_STUB booting. Very nice.

Now all I need is for the rtw89 driver to be added to their linux-edge kernel so my wireless card works. EDIT: it's been added for v5.16.7.

I love Alpine, it really is Linux done right (IMO).

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-02-05 19:17:02)

Nili · 2022-02-09 16:05:02

DEVUAN 5 | CWM | CONKY

Adapted a little prompt to quit CWM, the immediate exit by mistake wasn't pleasing.
Thanks to Thorsten Staerk

- Feh [thumbnail mode] used as a backgrounds changing.
Thanks to ceeslans @ bunsenlabs for the script.

- Nautilus/Files as a file manager and mpv player for audio/videos.

- Mega thanks for the albums goes to photografer Joe Motohashi

2nd-edit: Re made the scrots with minor cosmetic changes.

Last edited by Nili (2022-02-13 13:39:45)

andyprough · 2022-02-09 19:17:39

Nili wrote:

My 90MB startup effort, yes yes i used to have below a few years ago, but nowdays it's a bit hard to stay tight living with dbus, gtk3 and a few startup services.

I've been playing around with 32-bit antiX on a 64-bit computer the past couple of days, and it boots into icewm with 74mb of ram. And that's without me lifting a finger to minimize anything. That's about half of what antiX normally runs at. Runs kind of herky jerky, with a lot of brief freezes whenever I try to do anything complex. But fun to toy with.

I'm going to have to try 32-bit Devuan on the same laptop, see what kind of reduced memory tricks I can squeeze out of it.

By the way, your b*tchcat fetch doesn't seem very b*tchy today.

Last edited by andyprough (2022-02-09 19:21:12)

Nili · 2022-02-09 21:18:36

andyprough wrote:

I've been playing around with 32-bit antiX on a 64-bit computer the past couple of days, and it boots into icewm with 74mb of ram. And that's without me lifting a finger to minimize anything. That's about half of what antiX normally runs at. Runs kind of herky jerky, with a lot of brief freezes whenever I try to do anything complex. But fun to toy with.
I'm going to have to try 32-bit Devuan on the same laptop, see what kind of reduced memory tricks I can squeeze out of it.
By the way, your b*tchcat fetch doesn't seem very b*tchy today.

That's true, 32bit consumes many less space than a 64bit architecture, Only the support for 32bit it is greatly reduced by apps and OS'es too. With 32bit you may gain lower memory to 50+MB with COLD BOOT via NETINST ISO.

I have done and booted Devuan with 20MB with 32bit not very long ago. Early kernels like 3.16 was a lighter series, the current ones 5.1+ it is really memory hungry and fat due too many nowdays features. I believe you will achive somewhere to 50 or 70MB startup for 32bit with a bit of optimizations.

See ReduceDebian. It is a bit old page, perhaps not much updated, still useful for customs.
https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian

The b!tchcat it is made very fat and should be thined, been thinking to reduce or use alternatives sooner. Just changed the text inside popup , still ugly as fat

Last edited by Nili (2022-02-09 21:20:14)

andyprough · 2022-02-09 22:13:19

Nili wrote:

I have done and booted Devuan with 20MB with 32bit not very long ago.

20mb, wow! I've seen 45mb on videos of extreme gentoo minimization, but 20mb is getting back to early 1990's kind of computing. That's very impressive for Devuan.

The Linux-libre 4.4 kernel is still being maintained as part of the Super LTS project, I should give it a shot on that 32-bit antiX, see if it loses any additional weight.

Ogis1975 · 2022-02-10 14:25:59

Nili wrote:

I adapted a little prompt to quit CWM, the immediate exit from session wasn't interesting.
Thanks to Thorsten Staerk

Hello. Can you share this handy script? Also, can you share b!tchcat script? Thank you very much.

Nili · 2022-02-10 16:19:30

andyprough wrote:

20mb, wow! I've seen 45mb on videos of extreme gentoo minimization, but 20mb is getting back to early 1990's kind of computing. That's very impressive for Devuan.
The Linux-libre 4.4 kernel is still being maintained as part of the Super LTS project, I should give it a shot on that 32-bit antiX, see if it loses any additional weight.

The last time from 2019 i used to obtein 20+ MB memory, here is a scrot proof also a bit of details. I used to have kernel 3.16 at that time, no dbus, gtk3, gvfs, 2GB memory slot.
Remember, the less memory the system have installed, the less it consumes. Now i have 4GB mem, hopefully i'll make it to 8GB very soon if the system/hardware will accept it. I mean now, that i use GTK3, DBUS and a few other stuff i can not have it anymore 20MB, so my system cold boot 70MB to XORG and 90MB to startx/cwm.

I always use testing repo mostly, so stable to me is a no use. Ofcourse you're free to test whatever you wish.

Ogis1975 wrote:

Hello. Can you share this handy script? Also, can you share b!tchcat script? Thank you very much.

Hello mate, Of course.

#!/bin/sh
if (dialog --title "exit-msg" --defaultno --yesno "Leave this CWM session now?" 6 20)
# message box will have the size 25x6 characters
then 
    pkill cwm
    # leave window manager
else 
    echo "Let's stay and play"
fi

dialog must be installed to be used.

 + apt-cache policy dialog
dialog:
  Installed: 1.3-20211214-1
  Candidate: 1.3-20211214-1
  Version table:
 *** 1.3-20211214-1 500
        500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

CWM keybind to call it

# meta + q               = log out window manager
bind-key M-q             "x-terminal-emulator -cr #5865f2 -title Warning -geometry 40x9+780+410 -e .scripts/quitcwm"

--------------
The bash B*tchcat

The fetch is originaly made by hokagemadura. I simply adapted for personal uses.
hokagemadura --- http://dotshare.it/dots/565/

#!/bin/bash

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#   ▒ ░░    ▒ ░░▒░▒░░ ▒░ ░   ░ ░▒ ▒  ░ ▒▒   ▓▒█░ ▒ ░░   
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#                            ░                          

# Thanks to:
# hokagemadura --- http://dotshare.it/dots/565/
# x0, xero --- https://github.com/xero/dotfiles
# machinebacon --- https://github.com/machinebacon/linuxbbq/blob/master/env-info

# colors and other text features
f=3 b=4
for j in f b; do
  for i in {0..15}; do
    printf -v $j$i %b "\e[${!j}${i}m"
  done
done
bld=$'\e[1m'
rst=$'\e[0m'
inv=$'\e[7m'
stp=$'\e[m'
lwrt='tr "[:upper:]" "[:lower:]"'

print-colors() {
    NAMES=('black' 'red' 'green' 'yellow' 'blue' 'magenta' 'cyan' 'white')
    for f in $(seq 0 7); do
        echo -en "\033[m\033[$(($f+30))m ${NAMES[$f]} " # normal colors
    done
    echo	
    for f in $(seq 0 7); do
        echo -en "\033[m\033[1;$(($f+30))m ${NAMES[$f]} " # bold colors
    done
    echo -e "$rst\n"
}

# time and date
time=`date "+%l:%M %p"|$lwrt`
date=`date "+%a %d %b %Y"|$lwrt`

# distribution settings
distro=`cat /etc/*-release|grep -i name|$lwrt|cut -c 14-48|sed -n 1p`
bin=$(uname -m)
instd=`ls -alct /|tail -1|$lwrt|awk '{print $6, $7, $8}'`
kernel=`uname -v |$lwrt|cut -c 15-36`
packages=`dpkg --get-selections|wc -l`
dpkg=`which dpkg | cut -c 10-25`

# grab window manager name from .xinitrc
wm=`tail -n 1 "${HOME}/.xinitrc"|$lwrt|cut -c 46-53`

# memory settings
memory=`free -h --si|$lwrt|awk 'NR==2{printf "%s/%s",$3,$2}'; free -m|awk 'NR==2{printf" (%u%%)\n",$3*100/$2 }'`
swap=`free -h --si|$lwrt|awk 'NR==3{printf "%s/%s",$3,$2}'; free -m|awk 'NR==3{printf" (%u%%)\n",$3*100/$2 }'`

# cpu settings
# must have lm-sensors installed, "apt-get install lm_sensors" to have cputemp.
cpuload1=`cat /proc/loadavg | awk {'print $1'}`
cpuload5=`cat /proc/loadavg | awk {'print $2'}`
cpuload15=`cat /proc/loadavg | awk {'print $3'}`
sensors=`sensors | sed -rn 's/.*Core 0:\s+.([0-9]+).*/\1/p'`°

# gtk3 settings
settings="$HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/settings"
gtktheme=`grep "gtk-theme-name" "$settings.ini"|$lwrt|cut -c 16-35`
gtkicon=`grep "gtk-icon-theme-name" "$settings.ini"|$lwrt|cut -c 21-49`
gtkfont=`grep "gtk-font-name" "$settings.ini"|$lwrt|cut -c 15-40`
gtkcursors=`grep "gtk-cursor-theme-name" "$settings.ini"|$lwrt|cut -c 23-53`

cat << EOF
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$f9                     dMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNKWMMMMMMd             MM   $f1  $stp                                           MM
$f9        .,:ldkO0KXXXXMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMX             MM   $f1  8""""8 8"""" 88   8 8   8 8""""8 8"""8 $stp    MM
$f9  .;oONMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.            MM   $f1  8    8 8     88   8 8   8 8    8 8   8 $stp    MM
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$f9    NMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM0            MM   $f1  88eee8 88eee  8ee8  88ee8 88   8 88  8 $stp    MM
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$f9        oMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMk KW        'XNkko'
$f9         oMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMk kM;      .Ol'          $f4$date $time
$f9          :WMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMXMMNx.                 $f4$USER@$HOSTNAME $bin
$f9           :MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMWWMMMMMMMMMMMMMM0.
$f9           .MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM  MMMMMMMM' OMMMOl         $f2 distro $f9$distro
$f9            NMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM  MMMMMMMMKxMM0X:  $f2 installed date $f9$instd
$f9            .NMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMW;             $f2 kernel $f9$kernel
$f9             KMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMO.            $f2 packages $f9$packages ($dpkg)
$f9            kMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM0,                    $f2 wm $f9$wm
$f9           cMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNk;.
$f9           c;'.dMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM$t$f1 KKK0kxd                     $f2 memory $f9$memory
$f9               OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMXdlc;'.  $t$f1 :ddxx,                       $f2 swap $f9$swap
$f9               WMM"'   NMMMMMMk'            $t$f1 lxx.
$f9               W       ,MMMM0.              $t$f1 .xxo                      $f2 load $f9$cpuload1,$cpuload5,$cpuload15 (1,5,15m)
$f9                        :MN;                $t$f1  ;xx;                 $f2 cpu temp $f9$sensors
$f9                         '.                 $t$f1   dxx.
$f9                                            $t$f1   'xxx.              $f2 gtk theme $f9$gtktheme (gtk3)
$f9                                            $t$f1    dxxxc.         $f2 icon package $f9$gtkicon
$f9   "UNIX is very simple, it just needs a    $t$f1    .xxxxxo'               $f2 font $f9$gtkfont
$f9      genius to understand its simplicity." $t$f1     ,xxxxxxxl.          $f2 cursor $f9$gtkcursors
$f9                        — Dennis M. Ritchie $t$f1      cxxxxxxxd
$f9                                            $t$f1       :cloodxx'
$f9
$f9
EOF
print-colors

The bash script gets the data from .xinitrc and gtk3/settings.ini.
Font used cascadia-code

Regards!

Ogis1975 · 2022-02-10 17:28:52

Nili wrote:

Hello mate, Of course.

Thank you so much for sharing these scripts. I really appreciate that. By the way, they work the way they should.

Nili · 2022-02-13 13:41:46

Ogis1975 wrote:

Thank you so much for sharing these scripts. I really appreciate that. By the way, they work the way they should.

Anytime welcome

Nili · 2022-02-26 11:50:59

Keybinds manually tile from CWM. I used same color Red for focus and unfocus border.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-02-28 17:46:33

Back in GNOME:

Online accounts are integrated. I feel dirty.

Nili · 2022-03-06 21:14:37

I'm joining HoaS with GNOME things.

To check an BIG External WD settings in Windows i had to temporarily remove Fedora Workstation, ok not only for this reason, but on other hand i wanted to watch Windows 11 once, since had been almost 10 years without stepping on this system for me i thought to give it a try on a real desktop. Despite the big changes that i saw and had been made on Windows campus, I did not stay inside it for more than 30 minutes after i did my disk checks.

That system does not do anything good for my personal usages whatever they do.

So, Back on Fedora 35 with some windows open. Gnome-Music, Files, Mozilla Firefox, Gnome-Terminal.
Gnome-Shell, Blur-my-Shell, Extentions and Gnome-Tweaks.

This is my second version of Fedora, I'm looking forward upgrading to 36 very soon.

In the footsteps of above styles, i set it up the same on Fedora. So, themes=skeuos-gtk, icons=flatery-icons, cursors=bibata_cursor

I have become a GNOME psychopathically in love, for now.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-03-07 14:39:10

^ Very nice Nili.

New Debian bullseye system:

I have to use the Liquorix kernel to get my RTL8852AE wireless card working so I'm generating a unified kernel image from it and signing that with my own SecureBoot key using this script:

#!/bin/sh -e

dir=/etc/secureboot
keys=$dir/keys/db
image=debian.efi
esp=/efi
splash=$dir/splash.ppm
kernel=$(readlink -f /vmlinuz)
initrd=$(readlink -f /initrd.img)

echo 'Creating unified kernel image...'

objcopy \
   --add-section .osrel="/etc/os-release" --change-section-vma .osrel=0x20000 \
   --add-section .cmdline="/etc/kernel/cmdline" --change-section-vma .cmdline=0x30000 \
   --add-section .splash="$splash" --change-section-vma .splash=0x40000 \
   --add-section .linux="$kernel" --change-section-vma .linux=0x2000000 \
   --add-section .initrd="$initrd" --change-section-vma .initrd=0x3000000 \
   /usr/lib/systemd/boot/efi/linuxx64.efi.stub /tmp/"$image"

echo 'Unified kernel image created'

sbsign \
   --key "$keys"/DB.key \
   --cert "$keys"/DB.crt \
   --output "$esp"/"$image" \
   /tmp/"$image"

echo 'Kernel image signed'

rm /tmp/"$image"

echo 'All done :-)'

^ That's saved to /usr/local/bin/gen_unified with the script called in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-secureboot & /etc/initramfs/post-update.d/zz-secureboot so it's applied whenever the kernel or initramfs is changed.

Microsoft, Debian & Ubuntu keys won't boot on this machine :-)

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2022-03-07 20:42:27)

tylerdurden · 2022-03-07 22:13:57

These past few years I've had a hard time deciding between a stripped-down, bare-bones KDE 5 or a modified XFCE desktop. I ended up giving MATE a try and was pleasantly surprised by the result.

The default settings pretty much suit me and there isn't too much to add or tinker with after a fresh reinstall. It's hassle-free for me, lightweight, and an improvement in terms of workflow.

I find the MATE apps just right - not as bloated as KDE's but not as bare-bones as the XFCE ones, either. Caja is especially nice. The only add-ons I've installed are mate-menu, mate-tweak, dconf-editor and a few Caja plugins like caja-open-terminal.

Anyway, very pleased with this setup and with Devuan 4 in general. Powers all of my machines including those used for professional purposes and I expect to keep it that way.

PS: I use mpv for video playback (with a custom configuration file) and quodlibet for music. I hardly touch vlc anymore these days.

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2022-03-08 14:00:09

Debian bullseye again, this time with openbox:

It has runit as the service manager & runit-init as PID1; systemd is not installed :-)

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Nili · 2022-03-09 14:58:51

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ Very nice Nili.

Thanks, same to you about your tight tweaks.

andyprough · 2022-03-09 15:26:03

I had a bit of fun re-spinning antiX Linux 32-bit recently, with Devuan forum member @JWMKIT's assistance. @JWMKIT recommended the wallpaper, and the old buuf icons seemed to fit, so it's been taking on a fun personality.

It's a demonstration of the power of JWM-KIT (the JWM project) to give you pretty much a full desktop experience with only 83mb of memory used at first login. @JWMKIT has also made his own version which has more features, hopefully he'll continue to develop it.

Downloads are here if anyone likes to give it a spin: https://archive.org/details/snapshot-20220301_2142
Logins are antix / antix and root / root. Be safe and backup any valuable data before letting it touch your system.

Ogis1975 · 2022-03-10 13:38:26

As window manager i use emacs+exwm. EXWM (Emacs X Window Manager) is a full-featured tiling X window manager for Emacs.

P.S.

You can guess what you want, but I'm not crazy

tylerdurden · 2022-03-17 00:32:37

tylerdurden wrote:

These past few years I've had a hard time deciding between a stripped-down, bare-bones KDE 5 or a modified XFCE desktop. I ended up giving MATE a try and was pleasantly surprised by the result.

Xue called me and begged me to give her another chance. I ended up caving in, realizing the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side.

So here's my revamped XFCE desktop inspired by my short-lived love affair with MATE:

I guess I underestimated how much I'd gotten used to XFCE, including some of its quirks. Still, I'm glad I gave MATE a try. I'm keeping mate-calc as a graphical calculator and caja as my default file manager.

Since it's Devuan's default DE, sticking to XFCE is probably the safest choice anyway.

Switching from MATE to XFCE proved to be very straightforward with zero issues. Just ran tasksel, purged any remaining MATE packages and configuration files from my /home directory. Then just reinstalled caja and mate-calc.

I use lightdm as my display manager and light-locker for screen locking (can be set in /usr/bin/xflock4) instead of xscreensaver, which I always remove. Works fine for me.

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