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#1 2021-11-06 07:21:01

MLEvD
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Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init!

We've all done this, right? Removed systemd without first installing an alternative, rebooting.
I have a root prompt and nothing seems to work. How to install init without an init?
Do we even need an init?

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#2 2021-11-06 09:04:03

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Re: Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init!

Just load up the Devuan ISO image and use rescue mode to gain a shell in the installed system with a working internet connection so that you can install whatever you want.

IIRC though it's impossible to remove the init metapackge (of which systemd & sysvinit are dependencies) without being told how stupid an idea that is; APT requires you to confirm that you want to do something that will probably wreck your machines and you said "yes". Why?


antifa ftw!

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#3 2021-11-07 23:23:07

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Re: Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init!

Migrating from Bullseye using https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-chimaera seems to result in no init system getting installed to replace systemd.  I wonder if

apt-get install eudev

  should be

apt-get install eudev sysvinit-core

instead?

The guide also says "The last command may cause package breaks..." so answering "yes" to "wreck my machine" can seem reasonable to someone that hasn't been through this process before.

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#4 2021-11-08 14:40:21

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Re: Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init!

In my case, "apt-get install eudev sysvinit-core" was the key.  Even after that though, the "apt-get -f install" did not complete.  I did a "dpkg --configure --pending" to get sysvinit-core and sysv-rc configured (plus a couple other packages), rebooted, then did another "apt-get -f install" which then completed.  "apt-get dist-upgrade" was successful and I have a working Chimaera system!

After reinstalling a bunch of stuff I will have successfully moved from Debian Lennax to Devuan Linux.  FTW!

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#5 2021-11-27 02:43:27

Aleksanders
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Re: Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init!

I migrated from Debian 11 to Devuan 4 only using USB boot and recovery mode. I have no idea how to make install eudev without removing systemd, but unable to remove systemd if it current active init system. Recovery mode with chroot to target system solves this problem. Now I have Devuan 4 without full reinstallation.

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#6 2021-11-27 17:47:18

MLEvD
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Re: Upgrade from debian bullseye to chimeara, no init!

User479 you are right! It is a bug in the install documentation.

I can't log it until i've figured out how to log my other bug. Anybody?

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