[SOLVED] Stale keyring files?

greenjeans · 2025-05-23 19:33:50

It's Nitrogen, that's what I use, and you have to add it to the Openbox autostart menu to get a bg applied at login. There's several things that need to be added to autostart to make everything happen, Tint2 for one. I also start the authentication daemon that way.

Which brings me to another question, what's going to be the default authentication for Devuan going forward? Since policykit-1-gnome is deprecated and not in the testing repo.

I just switched today to using the mate-polkit and dropped gnome, seems to work fine since they're both just front-end authentication agents for polkitd. I guess the gnome version hasn't been maintained in like 10 years, so they are dropping it in trixie.

fsmithred · 2025-05-23 20:40:39

Tint2 or lxpanel or lxqt-panel or polybar in autostart.
spacefm or ~/.fehbg or nitrogen in autostart.
I like to include a terminal there too, so it's always open and ready on first desktop. That way, if my monitor dies while booting up, I can still type commands and shut down gracefully. (old boy scout)

'kits in excalibur desktop-live iso. This is in xfce despite what your eyes may tell you:

$ dpkg -l |grep -Ei "polkit|policykit|login|seat"
ii  cups-pk-helper                        0.2.6-2.1                                    amd64        PolicyKit helper to configure cups with fine-grained privileges
ii  elogind                               255.17-2                                     amd64        user, seat and session management daemon
ii  gir1.2-polkit-1.0                     126-2devuan1                                 amd64        GObject introspection data for polkit
ii  libelogind-compat:amd64               255.17-2                                     amd64        user, seat and session management library compatibility
ii  libelogind0:amd64                     255.17-2                                     amd64        user, seat and session management library
ii  libpam-elogind:amd64                  255.17-2                                     amd64        elogind PAM module
ii  libpam-gnome-keyring:amd64            48.0-1                                       amd64        PAM module to unlock the GNOME keyring upon login
ii  libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64             126-2devuan1                                 amd64        polkit Authentication Agent API
ii  libpolkit-gobject-1-0                 126-2devuan1                                 all          polkit Authorization API
ii  libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0:amd64   126-2devuan1                                 amd64        polkit Authorization API
ii  libseat1:amd64                        0.9.1-1                                      amd64        flexible user, seat and session management library
ii  login                                 1:4.16.0-2+really2.41-4devuan1               amd64        system login tools
ii  login.defs                            1:4.17.4-2                                   all          system user management configuration
ii  lxpolkit                              0.5.6-2                                      amd64        LXDE PolicyKit authentication agent
ii  pkexec                                126-2devuan1                                 amd64        run commands as another user with polkit authorization
ii  polkitd                               126-2devuan1                                 amd64        framework for managing administrative policies and privileges

Altoid · 2025-05-23 21:33:31

Hello:

@greenjeans

... so win/win.

Likewise.
(Shit, man ... made me blush.)

@golinux

... radical change ...
... applications like the DE

I'm quite aware of the implications re: Devuan being Debian without systemd.

[OT]
But I don't think that is a long lasting status quo.
The weave that keeps it in place is permanently being pecked at by the usual suspects.
It will eventually come loose.
When it does (no, no if) Devuan+all derivatives will need a fall back position.
[/OT]

That said, a basic Devuan installation (like a netinstall), would (by definition?) not have a DE or a WM for that matter.
So no radical change there.
Just a meta-package / script or whatever.
It would be downloaded separately and applied post-installation.

ceeslans wrote:

... a netinstall script, right?

Seems like it would be like that but for a Devuan netinstall.
ie: systemd less.

I really don't know how much of that script would have to be adjusted to work on a Devuan netinstall.

Thanks to all for your input.

Best,

A.

greenjeans · 2025-05-24 17:19:59

'kits in excalibur desktop-live iso.

Ahh, so lxpolkit. Was thinking about trying that in my Openbox stuff, but the mate-polkit dropped right in without any extra configging for the most part. I did have to go in and delete the current ~/.config/dconf/user file to stop some errors in .xsession-errors every time I used authentication, then re-boot but those are gone now, just the main complaint at the top now that mate-polkit can't find org.gnome.session-manager.whatever.hoo-ha.

I am using the xfce power-manager in the max versions, and whoa-boy does it ever like to complain that it can't find stuff. Does it do that in an xfce session?

Chatter for months is that Tint2 would be going bye-bye, but it's in the testing repo again, which makes me very happy.

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