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Hello devuan team,
i have a question. I am interested in buying this 2023 mid-range laptop (Asus Tuf A16 Ryzen 7 7735hs) however, it runs into some detection issues with previous year kernels, except for newer kernels (6.4.8 and above, which solve many detections problems).
I am not keen in trying excalibur due to the usrmerge thing, so i prefer to stick with daedalus (however, the installation kernel is 6.1.38).
which is the best way to install the new kernel, at installation time or after the first install?
what are the steps to install the most recent long-term kernel 6.6.47? (or, should i try the stable version 6.10.6 instead?)
I will appreciate your guidance with some commands lines to make this possible
From what i read it's a good laptop.
Read some additional info, links below:
Long term kernel 6.6.47; 2024-08-19
Asus TUF A16 Advantage Edition (2023) laptop compatibility check
Asus TUF Gaming A16 2023 Advantage Edition in Linux
Thank you very much for your kind assistance.
Omar
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Adding the daedalus-backports repository would be a convenient way to have a quite current kernel (6.9).
cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep backports
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
apt install -t daedalus-backports linux-image-amd64
Beside the kernel, firmware can be a major problem especially on new notebooks. There are no backports releases by now, e.g. https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … *&x=submit . I would go for the newest packages for all build-in components.
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I've got bpo in my sources & yet the latest image installed is 6.1.99:
$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/josm.list:deb https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/ alldist universe
$ apt search linux-image-amd64
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
linux-image-amd64/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates,now 6.1.99-1 amd64 [installed]
Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
linux-image-amd64-dbg/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates 6.1.99-1 amd64
Debugging symbols for Linux amd64 configuration (meta-package)
linux-image-amd64-signed-template/stable-security,stable-proposed-updates 6.1.99-1 amd64
Template for signed linux-image packages for amd64
It's not that other, later kernels are not available; they are but for some reason are not picked up:
$ apt search linux-image | fgrep bpo
WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
linux-headers-6.9.7+bpo-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
Header files for Linux 6.9.7+bpo-amd64
linux-headers-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
Header files for Linux 6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64
linux-headers-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
Header files for Linux 6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64
linux-image-5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/now 5.14.9-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.15.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/now 5.15.5-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.15.0-0.bpo.3-amd64/now 5.15.15-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.16.0-0.bpo.3-amd64/now 5.16.11-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64/now 5.16.12-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.18.0-0.bpo.1-amd64/now 5.18.2-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.18.0-0.deb11.3-amd64/now 5.18.14-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.18.0-0.deb11.4-amd64/now 5.18.16-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-5.19.0-0.deb11.2-amd64/now 5.19.11-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.0.0-0.deb11.2-amd64/now 6.0.3-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.0.0-0.deb11.6-amd64/now 6.0.12-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.1.0-0.deb11.5-amd64/now 6.1.12-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.1.0-0.deb11.6-amd64/now 6.1.15-1~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.1.0-0.deb11.7-amd64/now 6.1.20-2~bpo11+1 amd64 [residual-config]
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64-dbg/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
Debug symbols for linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-amd64-unsigned/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64-dbg/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
Debug symbols for linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-cloud-amd64-unsigned/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64-dbg/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
Debug symbols for linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64
linux-image-6.9.7+bpo-rt-amd64-unsigned/stable-backports 6.9.7-1~bpo12+1 amd64
Last edited by alexkemp (2024-08-22 10:35:09)
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@alexkemp: kernel updates are handled by the (meta)-package linux-image-amd64.
When this package is installed from the main branch, you will automagically receive the main line kernel updates. When this package is installed from the bpo branch (apt -t daedalus-backports install linux-image-amd64), you will get the bpo kernel updates.
Security updates are a separate story.
When you only install a dedicated kernel image from bpo, you won't get updates.
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Thanks for the info, @rolfie (new to me, even after all these years).
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which is the best way to install the new kernel, at installation time or after the first install?
what are the steps to install the most recent long-term kernel 6.6.47? (or, should i try the stable version 6.10.6 instead?)
To answer these questions: Firstly know that i'm not one of the ninjas here, just a GUI-guy who like to tinker and only uses a terminal when I have to, so take it for what it's worth.
Installing new kernel, much easier to do post-initial install of system.
I do everything except 3rd party stuff through Synaptic. So install new kernel and then close Synaptic. Re-boot, at the grub screen choose advanced options boot, hit the edit button, edit the file where it says what kernel to use to boot to your new one, then boot.
You should be using your new kernel now, to verify open a terminal and
uname -r
to check.
Now put system through it's paces to verify everything works. If it does, you can now delete the old kernel through Synaptic, do so. Then open a terminal, su-to-root then run
update-grub
.
That's how I do it anyway, always works, just updated to new kernel a week ago in fact.
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There is another way to get newer kernels:
https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/l … sh.en.html
If you follow this guide, it will work.
BUT! If you need/want blobs, this method is useless to you.
I currently use it on my framework amd laptop. Now that the wifi card has been replaced it works completely fine.
Still, you get new kernels quite often. LTS and the usual one as well.
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Hello delgado, greenjeans and devuan friends,
thank you very much for your hints.
by following your instructions i was able to install the latest kernel (6.10.11) in this laptop. most of the aspects i need are working great and i am now enjoying this laptop.
only a very small number of features are not working since they are either win-only or systemd dependent; however these features are not a showstopper for the use i have for this laptop.
thank you for sharing your valuable inputs and wishing everyone a great day!!
cheers.
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