[MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded

Head_on_a_Stick · 2020-08-22 23:33:16

Sorry for the interruption but:

MiyoLinux wrote:

When I saw your post, I looked to see what other posts you had made (because I'm sneaky that way ), and I saw you had an issue with obmenu-generator. I'm sorry that I missed it before. If that ever happens again, just open the terminal, and enter the following command...
sudo cpanm Linux::DesktopFiles
Then run the following for no icons...
obmenu-generator -p 
...or this for icons...
obmenu-generator -p -i

I think @rayburn is using my perl-linux-desktopfiles package now so cpanm shouldn't be needed (and shouldn't be used if the perl files are supplied by a package).

And I suspect that they now have a mix of UEFI and non-UEFI systems on their disk, which would explain why update-grub is "not working". Difficult to be sure without a clearer explanation of the problem though.

MiyoLinux · 2020-08-22 23:59:47

Okay. Thanks HoaS.

rayburn · 2020-08-23 17:18:54

@MiyoLinux
Many thanks for your very detailed response, unfortunately I could only get this far:

miyo@miyolinux:~$ su
Password: 
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# chroot /mnt
bash: chroot: command not found

And that is running it exactly as you suggested from a live copy of Miyo wmderland.

rayburn · 2020-08-23 17:23:14

@HoaS
Thank you for your reply too, and yes I am using your perl-linux-desktopfiles package.

This desktop is a BIOS system without any UEFI on it and the only distros on it are Miyo ones, so I don't think that is the problem?

MiyoLinux · 2020-08-23 18:42:30

rayburn wrote:

@MiyoLinux
Many thanks for your very detailed response, unfortunately I could only get this far:
miyo@miyolinux:~$ su
Password: 
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# chroot /mnt
bash: chroot: command not found
And that is running it exactly as you suggested from a live copy of Miyo wmderland.

Hmmm...strange. I'll try it when as soon as I'm able, but it might be awhile. In the meantime, you can see if this command works...instead of...

su

...use...

su -l

...at the beginning. That's a lower-case l (as in letter).

rayburn · 2020-08-23 18:42:30

@MiyoLinux

Subsequent to my previous post, I have tried the 'update-grub' command in the live system with this result:

root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# update-grub
bash: update-grub: command not found

Which is exactly what I was getting before from an installed version of MiyoLinux....

Have you any clues as to why this might be please?

MiyoLinux · 2020-08-23 18:44:54

rayburn wrote:

@MiyoLinux
Subsequent to my previous post, I have tried the 'update-grub' command in the live system with this result:
root@miyolinux:/home/miyo# update-grub
bash: update-grub: command not found
Which is exactly what I was getting before from an installed version of MiyoLinux....
Have you any clues as to why this might be please?

See my post right before your last post. This must be an issue of being what I call true-root (with su -l) instead of regular root (with just su).

Head_on_a_Stick · 2020-08-23 18:47:19

rayburn wrote:

bash: chroot: command not found

I think you have to attain a root shell by using

su -

The - bit is important: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=142973

And as a simpler method you could use

# apt install arch-install-scripts
# mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
# arch-chroot /mnt

^ That will mount the API filesystems automagically.

rayburn wrote:

This desktop is a BIOS system without any UEFI on it and the only distros on it are Miyo ones, so I don't think that is the problem?

No, it isn't, I didn't read your post carefully enough (sorry). To update GRUB you need to run update-grub (as root) in the last distribution from which the bootloader was installed — that won't work in Miyo because you chose not to install the bootloader. Running the grub-install command from Miyo would mean that you could update the configuration from that system. If you can boot into the installed Miyo system then you don't need to bother with the live system & chroot at all.

But you still haven't really explained what you mean by

rayburn wrote:

I am used to using 'update-grub' and 'grub-install' commands on other distros, but that is not working in Miyo!

In what way is it "not working"? What exactly are you trying and how exactly is it failing? Please post the exact command(s) used and the exact error messages that you see to avoid any potential confusion.

EDIT: cross-posted with Miyo's reply. I'll shut up now

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2020-08-23 18:48:01)

rayburn · 2020-08-23 18:53:57

Next problem (and thanks to Miyo for resolving the root issue!):

root@miyolinux:/# grub-install /dev/sda4
Installing for i386-pc platform.
grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.

It is not an ext2 partition but ext4:

(parted) print                                                            
Model: ATA CT250MX500SSD1 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 250GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system     Flags
 1      1049kB  1049MB  1048MB  primary  linux-swap(v1)
 2      1049MB  83.9GB  82.8GB  primary  ext4
 3      83.9GB  157GB   72.7GB  primary  ext4            boot
 4      169GB   250GB   81.3GB  primary  ext4

Head_on_a_Stick · 2020-08-23 19:01:18

rayburn wrote:

root@miyolinux:/# grub-install /dev/sda4

Install to the device rather than the partition.

Better method:

# dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc

rayburn · 2020-08-23 19:07:44

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

rayburn wrote:
root@miyolinux:/# grub-install /dev/sda4
Install to the device rather than the partition.
Better method:
# dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc

Thank you! The latter command worked successfully, I appreciate all the help from both yourself and MiyoLinux.

MiyoLinux · 2020-08-23 22:05:14

rayburn wrote:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
rayburn wrote:
root@miyolinux:/# grub-install /dev/sda4
Install to the device rather than the partition.
Better method:
# dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
Thank you! The latter command worked successfully, I appreciate all the help from both yourself and MiyoLinux.

Yes, thanks for the help HoaS, and thank you rayburn for using MiyoLinux and hanging in there to get this sorted out. The su -l command was instituted by Debian and went into effect with Buster...and therefore...Devuan beowulf. That was my fault for not realizing the situation earlier. So, you'll need to use it periodically when doing things like update-grub.

I hope you enjoy wmderland! Have fun!

MiyoLinux · 2020-08-26 10:53:43

MiyoLinux Rolling (Openbox) is now available.

* Based on Devuan Ceres
* Obmenu-Generator for the Openbox Menu (alternative openbox menu also provided)
* 2 custom tint2 panels (Dark and Light) which include...
~ Awesome Fonts as launchers
~ Rofi Applications Menu
~ Full-Screen Rofi Applications Menu
~ The 2 Rofi menus open depending upon a left or right click of the panel launcher
* No Conky is pre-installed; however, the conky package is installed for those who wish to supply their own conky.
* Basic Keyboard Shortcuts are displayed in a notification window when clicking the panel's keyboard icon
* Alsa-only for sound out of the box
* Lightdm display manager

As always, this is a base system which allows the user to choose which applications they want on their system.

Here are a few screenshots...

Default Desktop with obmenu-generator...

Rofi Applications Menu (Dark)

Rofi Full-Screen Applications Menu (Dark)

Available as...

i686-PAE
x86_64 BIOS
x86_64 UEFI

Downloads available at...

OSDN (.iso names begin with openbox-rolling)...

https://osdn.net/projects/miyolinux/releases/72248

Sourceforge...

https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … x/Rolling/

Have fun!

HevyDevy · 2020-08-26 11:21:10

Nice work there Miyo, perfect for anyone wanting step into a bleeding edge devuan rolling distro.

MiyoLinux · 2020-08-26 13:03:35

HevyDevy wrote:

Nice work there Miyo, perfect for anyone wanting step into a bleeding edge devuan rolling distro.

Thanks HD! The wmderland release is also based on ceres, but it's a tiling window manager. So...I wanted to give users an option for a floating window manager too.

brocashelm · 2020-08-26 19:03:56

Pretty cool, indeed. Great way to entice fans of Gentoo, Arch GNU/Linux, and other such distros to try out Devuan and see what it's all about.

The "unstable" Ceres is more stable than most other "stable" distros. Crazy world we live in.

MiyoLinux · 2020-08-26 19:35:06

brocashelm wrote:

Pretty cool, indeed. Great way to entice fans of Gentoo, Arch GNU/Linux, and other such distros to try out Devuan and see what it's all about.
The "unstable" Ceres is more stable than most other "stable" distros. Crazy world we live in.

Devuan Ceres...

The Gentoo Jinxer...
The Arch Annihilator...
The Solus Stopper...
The Tumbleweed Terminator...
The Manjaro Maligner...

...n'stuff.

rayburn · 2020-09-19 19:50:12

@Miyo

I downloaded and installed your Openbox rolling iso and after a recent update i now get this message instead of a menu upon right clicking on the desktop:

Invalid output from pipe-menu "/usr/bin/obmenu-generator -i"

I have tried searching for a solution to this problem without success, so am now hoping that you or someone else can help me!

Thanks.

MiyoLinux · 2020-09-19 20:17:26

Hi rayburn!

I'm on vacation and without a computer to test it (I'm on my phone).

I assume from the output you posted, you're using icons in the menu?

Does it work without icons? To test it, open the terminal and without su or sudo, enter...

obmenu-generator -p

If that produces a menu without icons, good.

Until I'm back from vacation, you can try this to see if icons will return...

1. Delete the icons folder in ~/.config/obmenu-generator
2. Open the terminal, and enter the following command (use su or sudo)...

cpanm Linux::DesktopFiles

3. Without su or sudo, enter...

obmenu-generator -p -i

If that doesn't work, perhaps Head_on_a_Stick will be willing to help until I'm back from vacation on the 22nd.

rayburn · 2020-09-19 20:31:02

Hey Miyo, thanks for the super quick reply, especially as you are without a computer!!

I will try your suggestions in the next day or two, it's not urgent as it is only an experimental system at present, I hope you enjoy your break and we'll perhaps chat when you're back.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2020-09-19 22:41:22

Check the Debian packages link in trizen's installation guide: https://github.com/trizen/obmenu-genera … INSTALL.md

I have them built in a Debian buster container but they should be 100% compatible with Devuan beowulf. It's probably best to add the repository (and key) because the obmenu-generator .deb also needs my perl-linux-desktopfiles package to work correctly without having to install the perl stuff manually with cpanm.

If you don't want to add my repositories then install the perl-linux-desktopfiles .deb first:

https://download.opensuse.org/repositor … -1_all.deb

Then install the obmenu-generator .deb package:

https://download.opensuse.org/repositor … -3_all.deb

I'll update the packages to the latest version tomorrow and bump the thread when they're ready.

HevyDevy · 2020-09-20 12:44:43

Or you could do this...

First sudo apt-get install build-essential cpanminus git

then

git clone git://github.com/trizen/obmenu-generator
    sudo cp obmenu-generator/obmenu-generator /usr/bin
    sudo cp -r obmenu-generator/schema.pl ~/.config/obmenu-generator
    sudo cpanm Linux::DesktopFiles
    sudo cpanm Data::Dump
    sudo chmod 777 /usr/bin/obmenu-generator

and finally

obmenu-generator -d

Last edited by HevyDevy (2020-09-20 12:46:14)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2020-09-20 14:45:36

HevyDevy wrote:

Or you could do this...

Well yes but packaging stuff up properly is much better, would you not agree?

https://xkcd.com/1987/ applies equally well to cpanm as it does to pip.

Anyway, I've upgraded the obmenu-generator package in my repository to v0.88:

https://download.opensuse.org/repositor … -1_all.deb

HevyDevy · 2020-09-20 14:51:37

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

HevyDevy wrote:
Or you could do this...
Well yes but packaging stuff up properly is much better, would you not agree?
https://xkcd.com/1987/ applies equally well to cpanm as it does to pip.
Anyway, I've upgraded the obmenu-generator package in my repository to v0.88:
https://download.opensuse.org/repositor … -1_all.deb

I wouldn't apt install any of your shit.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2020-09-20 14:54:28

Ah, good to know, thanks!

EDIT: so I take it that you don't know how to package then? This is a good guide: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debmake-doc/

And also:

HevyDevy wrote:

sudo cp -r obmenu-generator/schema.pl ~/.config/obmenu-generator

Why recursively copy a single file to $HOME as root? That makes no sense at all

EDIT2: and why install the build-essential package? It doesn't supply anything that's needed for your suggestion.

It's almost as if you don't know what you're talking about...

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2020-09-20 15:01:00)

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