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Rimworld
Is whatever you want it to be, from peaceful village-builder to organ-harvesting cannibal death-cult. IMO mods are needed to get the best from the game though. The modding scene is nuts, easily the biggest and best of any game I have played.
if you like Dwarf Fortress, you'll like Rimworld. If you don't like Dwarf Fortress... You'll probably still like Rimworld.
Starsector, Stellaris
Aren't really comparable. Stellaris is just a 4X, but it's a very good and very deep 4X, and I like SciFi settings. The DLC-gouging gets a bit much though.
Starsector is something else, and there's not really anything else like it. Take old-school Star Control top-down combat, add deep ship customisation and fleet mechanics, throw it in a trading/exploration RPG-lite overworld, and you have... Genius. Or Mount & Blade in space, as you prefer.
If you haven't played it, play it. It's cheap, and it's exceptional value.
Grim Dawn
The Diablo 3 that should have been, what else is there to say. Classic loot-goblin ARPG gameplay, a truly insane amount of content, and zero bullshit.
Eve Online
I don't really do MMOs any more, but Eve is the original (destroyer of all free time). DO NOT start playing Eve if you have a life.
Seriously though, if you like player-driven MMOs, it's the OG and the namesake for the "massive" part of the acronym... Runs on a literal supercomputer, and is pretty much the only place that thousands of players and the equivalent of 6-figures real-world cash can go down in flames in a single battle.
X4, X3
Indie, janky, completely unique. Kind of a 1st-person 4X sandbox I guess.
Decent combat from dogfights to massive fleet engagements (if you excuse the AutoPillock), with a fully simulated economy and the ability to buy (or steal) pretty much every ship in the game, or build an empire to rival entire species.
Story is so-so, but that's not the point.
Mods are many and awesome, the latest iteration of X3 is actually an "official" mod and it's the best the game has ever been.
IMO X3 is still better than X4 in terms of gameplay and polish, but the latter is slowly getting there. Egosoft has a history of supporting their games with updates and patches for decades after release, so I'm still mostly optimistic it'll exceed its predecessor.
Space Engineers
Fun physics sandbox so far, but also appears to be designed to be as annoying as possible. Like I said, undecided.
Good enough to be worth the purchase price IMO, but unfortunately also into the DLC-gouging thing.
thanks
You are most welcome.
FWIW, the version of daemon in excalibur should be new enough to support --bind, so later comments regards backporting are obsolete.
Also FWIW, you can put some of the repetitive malarkey in those commands (e.g. pidfiles=[whatever]) in /etc/daemon.conf or ~/.daemonrc, which makes later use to list / control managed daemons a bit nicer.
Check out the manual, for such a tiny and obscure tool daemon is pretty swish - chroots, environment control, ptys, the works.
Nice, that'd do it... And learn me for focusing on the specific line rather than looking at the whole code block.
Can replicate the OPs problem here if there's another match later in the file (or in /etc/sudoers.d/*, since '@includedir /etc/sudoers.d' appears to be the last entry in a default install).
Aside, if there's a prize for most intimidatingly dense man page, I'm pretty confident 'sudoers' is a strong contender. ![]()
steve ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/shutdownWorks fine here (excalibur):
$ sudo shutdown -k now
Broadcast message from root@damnation (pts/2) (Sun Feb 8 02:38:31 2026):
The system is going down to maintenance mode NOW!
Broadcast message from root@damnation (pts/2) (Sun Feb 8 02:38:31 2026):
The system is going down to maintenance mode NOW!
Shutdown cancelled./usr/sbin/shutdown is the realpath to the shutdown binary on your system, right? No symlink shenanigans or anything?
zeus ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
Sure, if the goal is to completely negate any security benefit of sudo and make 'zeus' effectively root. The OP is trying to match a specific command, not allow everything under the sun.
What am I missing?
Possibly the incomplete host specification... Testing
Currently, modded war crime simulator Rimworld, X3, Starsector, and most recently (still undecided) Space Engineers.
In all-time hours-played (and maybe in order): KSP, X3, Rimworld, Stellaris, Grim Dawn, Quake (1), Doom (1), Morrowind, Eve Online, X4.
You?
I just pointed you to how to fix that racy startup script, but since one of the admins is apparently quietly deleting my posts (or this forum is just a buggy mess, which is also possible) I guess we'll have to imagine it. Short version: read that thread more, the first "solution" is highly unreliable.
What a lovely board this is.
You are using the wrong distribution if you want something like that
Exactly why I'm running almost entirely on Gentoo these days. The one Devuan install I still have is a server and completely unaffected by any of this.
doing these so easy changes you complain about all the time
I have, on my own systems, quite some time ago. What I can't do from here is get the same into Devuan where it helps everyone, because [see above WRT stonewalling and "upstream Debian package or GTFO" responses].
This issue doesn't affect me at all, but it's still causing problems for other users (usually newcomers, e.g.), and believe it or not I'd quite like to see this distro get better with each release rather than just drop more and more packages and leave more and more broken things for users to "figure it out yourself".
help out or shut up about this
As I said (much, much) earlier:
What I would like to know is: Which way does Devuan intend to handle this, and is there anything that needs doing there? What solutions are being considered? I contributed one possibility way upthread, is it worth persevering with or is Devuan going to do something totally different?
I still don't have an answer, and shouting "go help" (without specifics like "with what", "where" and "by what process") is not one. Plenty of "help" with this particular issue has already been volunteered (mostly in the pipewire thread), and so far no bites.
When nothing is biting, eventually one stops fishing. All that remains is progressively more snarky variations of "What's the plan, Stan? Have we decided anything yet, or we still hoping this will just go away?".
Ed. But wait, there's more. Lest we forget, here's me offering to "help out" on this very issue, nearly a year ago:
I'll be happy to pitch in with code and/or packaging when devuan decides on a sane and maintainable way to handle user services.
And Ralph shutting it down with the usual completely unproductive "We'll do nothing until Debian does something, unless it uses systemd, in which case we'll do nothing at all.":
Wonderful. Let's wait together. When some packages turn up in Debian offering all or some of those good things you talk about, then they automatically turn up in Devuan. Unless they depend on systemd. If they do, they end up on the banned packages list.
Oracle decided to move towards KVM
You mean "finally release the KVM backend they've been working on for a while". Nobody nowhere stated it will replace their own hypervisor, or even become the default.
They could not do it before because of the lack of resources.
Recall Oracle didn't develop VirtualBox, Sun Microsystems did. What remains of that team is likely quite small, VB is not even remotely a priority for Oracle as a whole and big corporations do love their silos.
Vulnerability
Are you perhaps implying that Linux KVM has no security vulnerabilities? A rather easy CVE search suggests otherwise...
KVM is better.
...Except when it's not. DOS and OS/2 guests spring to mind. Multiple options are good.
Devuan follows the packages as they are in Debian except where changes are required to remove the systemd garbage
But not when new packages or more extensive changes are needed to have things actually work properly without systemd. It's always "remove garbage" or "sanitise", never "fix", "improve" or "add alternative".
So long as this attitude persists, every Devuan release will have less stuff that works, less functionality, and less user choice.
That's not progress, it's regression. It's the surgeon whose answer to every problem is "amputate", because that's what worked in 1856 and administering even over-the-counter treatments might require more effort.
OpenRC gets little attention in Debian, because it solves problems Debian doesn't have. They don't need a recent version with user-services, they have systemd. We don't.
There is nothing whatsoever preventing Devuan from backporting a newer openrc release or including one of the many other available solutions to user-services, besides this ridiculous "we just follow Debian" policy... Which for some reason only appears to apply in a subtractive sense - changes are always removing something from upstream Debian, never adding, never improving.
Any time anyone suggests something be added to make Devuan better, the response is the same - "get it accepted into Debian first"... Even when the thing in question has bugger-all chance of being packaged in Debian because it's completely irrelevant to a systemd-based distribution.
This is essentially just stonewalling, and it's no surprise nobody is volunteering for anything when it's the default response to Devuan-specific RFPs and ITPs.
Works with Waterfox, but not LibreWolf. On the Chrome side, I know that Chrome, Edge and Chromium work
Then your problem is almost certainly the anti-fingerprinting "hardening" Librewolf applies, and you'd be best asking in their support channels. I would not be at all surprised if Librewolf blocks APIs used to probe audio hardware for "privacy" reasons.
It is all in the web browser
...
Soundfonts and software synths aren't necessary
does not support MIDI connection, all the audio backing tracks we offer are real recordings
No synth, no hardware MIDI port or passthrough support == not MIDI, just playing audio clips in the browser.
If you want an actual MIDI sequencer, with notation editor and support for hardware MIDI connections to real instruments, I recommend rosegarden.
If you're set on $commercial_web_app, then you'll probably have to go through $commercial_support. Tomplay doesn't do anything with MIDI, and as far as I can tell Flowkey uses their own proprietary browser extension.
The chances of anyone else in here being familiar enough with those products (and on an "unsupported" platform at that) to offer support are slim.
To return to your original question:
what you describe now seems like it may be a timing issue during start-up?
I agree. Either that or something is grabbing the raw ALSA device before pipewire gets it.
I will try to take a look.
So, what did you see?
Which one of the many confusing unofficial user-contributed solutions (still all we have
) are you using to start pipewire?
In general, I suggest the upstream documentation and the Gentoo wiki for pipewire information (since Devuan has effectively none), taking note of things like:
There is no standardized non-systemd way to start PipeWire services - pipewire, pipewire-pulse and wireplumber - when starting a graphical shell, and users need to choose the correct approach based on how their graphical environment is started.
and:
Important
PipeWire must be started before anything that might try to connect to any sound input or output, such as a volume monitoring applet.
Here is the difference between Debian and Devuan, why not to improve init?
Indeed, and that's a question that has bamboozled me for years.
As far as I can tell, Devuan 100% reactive, rather than proactive. Upstreams leaning on user-services has been a known problem for years, other distros have been developing solutions and exploring alternatives.
Devuan just waits. Waits to see what Debian does, waits to find out what the next Debian release breaks, waits to see what packages will be "banned" rather than fixed.
We could have openrc user-services, but we don't, "because Debian". Because this isn't really a distribution in it's own right, it's a Debian "respin" and 99.99% of packages are verbatim pulls from the Debian repos.
That's fine when you stick to the Debian way of doing things, but deviating on something as foundational as systemd and then refusing to deviate on potential fixes and replacements... Mark my words: when KDE depends on systemd, Devuan will just "ban" it, loose yet another major package, and slide further into irrelevance.
Pretty much every patch or alternative implementation that has found it's way into Devuan came from another distro (usually Gentoo, e.g. elogind, eudev, opentmpfiles), I'm probably missing some minor tweaks, but the fact I can't name a single significant systemd-free solution invented by this systemd-free distro is concerning to say the least.
Devuan isn't about finding alternatives to systemd, it's about clinging stubbornly to systems long abandoned by everyone else, then shouting at the weather like senile old fools when the rest of the world moves on. Compare the post-count for "here's a cool new feature in Devuan" to "bastards at $outgroup changed something again, the world is going to shit, bah humbug" and the direction is pretty clear - wilful fossilisation.
Most of that is a recent development too, FDN went downhill pretty steeply after the "official" admin takeover.
To be fair much of the aggravation is due to anti-ai defences, but if the result is that obnoxious for humans you're doing something very wrong.
because open source drivers is better
Yes, much. I got tired of the constant jank and driver-kernel incompatibilities. amdgpu just works, and it's included in the kernel.
are play games?
Sure, when I have time. Mostly stuff a few years old though.
RX 6700 XT is good for modern gaming
It's getting old now by "gamer" standards, but it's adequate so long as you don't want raytracing.
What or who is LQ and FDN?
LinuxQuestions.org, Forums.Debian.Net.
LQ is fine, though I haven't been there in a while. For some distros (most notably Slackware), it's their primary forum.
why there is no support for user services in openrc?
There is. The version of openrc in Devuan is, as usual, many versions behind.
I found that Avidemux can do most of the things that Handbrake can, with a better interface too.
Avidemux is a video encoding swiss-army-knife, handbrake started out as (and to some extent still is) a specialised tool for ripping DVDs. That's a good part of why the interface is a bit strange for general transcoding tasks.
I haven't used either in a while, but back when ripping DVDs was a common thing handbrake was faster than anything else by a significant margin.
all strong sides of Gentoo equalize by time for detailed tuning and compilation
I find the benefit you get from any given activity is usually proportional to the time and effort you put into it. Only you can define your comfortable compromise on that sliding-scale from "out of the box, no effort" to "full control, much work".
OTOH, once you do have things set up the way you want, day-to-day Gentoo is pretty much just Arch (or any other rolling-release distro), except updates take longer to install, your PC doubles as a space-heater, and the community is far less obnoxious. ![]()
my got to be twenty-five years of using it now since the pre-1.0 days
You and me both. I do like KDE, (even the current iteration) but the development model is utterly infuriating. Sadly, warts and all, I'm not convinced there's a better "full DE" option right now.
resources the damn thing used for doing next to basically nothing
It's still not terrible (and still better than GNOME), but only if you get quite brutal ripping out the worst offenders *cough* akonadi.
Bare plasma without all the chaff is comparable to current XFCE IME.
Who knows if the Sonic people can gather enough momentum to get a fork going
I tried it out a little while back, and I can say it at least compiles and runs (or master did at that moment in time) on Gentoo. Currently I'm just cherry-picking a couple of changes on top of upstream plasma, because I'm too lazy to write proper ebuilds and untangle the KDE apps / frameworks dependencies.
TDE
Yes... But also no. QT3 is long dead, and not entirely without reason. Security support might as well be nill, and no modern applications target it so you end up with a pretty horrific mix of QT3,5,6 & a bit of GTK to boot.
I try to stick to no more than 2 clashing GUI toolkits where I can.
it could be a sign of what's to come
I'd say "definitely is", and probably soon. IME KDE will do what they always do - death by a thousand bugs. Let [thing they want gone] rot until the userbase is sufficiently annoyed, then trot out a replacement that requires [thing they want to depend on] and use it as justification for never fixing what used to work...
Just like X11 support and the "x11-only never ever fix these, they're meant to be annoying" tag on the bugtracker.
SDDM has problems sure, but it certainly isn't beyond saving. KDE could have just adopted it as-is (and as initially implied) or pitched in with maintenance, but instead it's an excuse for yet another rewrite, to use systemd user-services for session management... Which will inevitably spread to KDE in general, as D.E. has been not-so-subtly hinting is "the best way forward" for a while now.
why fork SDDM to be systemd reliant and make that the default
Same reason every new app for KDE that runs a background service (e.g. KRDP) and every new control-panel applet that touches services (e.g. plasma-firewall) also depends on systemd, usually for no convincing reason.
Several influential developers want to move all of KDE's various daemons and services to systemd user-units, so they can get rid of KDED & co. They have for quite some time.
The old "sure we support BSD, we've always supported BSD... You just miss out on some new stuff" pot of totally-not-boiling-yet water is the best way to make that happen with a minimum of screaming, so we get "stay calm, it's just an optional feature. SDDM will still work (for now)".
With any luck Gentoo will patch things to use openrc user services, or Sonic DE will gain the traction and the manpower to be an X11-first and systemd-optional KDE fork.
Both efforts would stand to benefit from some cross-distro support and packaging, but as far as Devuan goes who knows. As far as I can see we're still at "read forum, figure it out yourself" for pipewire, with nary a sign of an official proposition (let alone a solution) for user services more generally.
Why, is there something more interesting happening here? Golinux gets to rant on about the follies of youth and the doom of humanity in random threads, this diversion is at least technical and GNU/Linux related.
deepforest asked questions, I answered. That's all.
Can you give practical example of that? Case where's Gentoo have superiority over others binary distros?
One example? Probably not, portage touches everything. ![]()
In general, you can enable or disable features or use software combinations that require setup at compile time. One can, for example, run a system without udev or dbus, or build the whole OS with clang instead of GCC, or use musl rather than glibc as the system C library, or build binaries that run only on $shiny-new-cpu using every possible optimisation.
Usually that kind of thing means a whole separate specialised distro, with Gentoo it's just user choice and some mucking about in config files.
Probably the most relevant (to devuan) example is systemd - there are many packages that require you to enable or disable systemd integration at compile time (or apply patches to remove it), so binary distros have to either choose one or the other for everyone (i.e. debian/devuan split), or maintain multiple versions of packages, complex dependency chains, or distribution "flavours" (which nobody can be bothered doing).
In Gentoo you just set a 'systemd' or 'openrc' system-wide USE flag (or better, select a profile that does that for you), and everything that can integrate with your chosen init will be built to do so, dependencies will be suggested to provide missing features, etc.
That's a big part of why Gentoo supports multiple init systems as "first-class citizens", and almost everything (including GNOME, for the most part) just works(tm).
Instead of "suggests", "recommends", zillions of split packages, and a bunch of removing optional junk after install, you set USE flags to define which features you want and the needed dependencies are pulled in to enable them.
Portage also makes patching software locally dead-easy. Instead of buggering about with quilt, debhelper, and doG knows what else to change and rebuild a package, you just drop your patch in /etc/portage/patches/[package name]/ and emerge applies it for you.
Why at main desktop pc you use Intel cpu but not Ryzen?
It offered better performance at the time, and ryzen had random motherboard/bios compatibility problems I didn't want to deal with.
Why Gentoo have no installer
It does, the installer is you.
More seriously, there are too many possible ways to build a gentoo system for an installer to be very useful, and it's not worth the development effort for something you probably only do once.
Gentoo handbook looks very complex
It's no worse than Archlinux, and plenty of people figure that out.
time out
Spent dealing with unexpected emails and IRC pings from both past and present forum members, expressing agreement with my comments and general disappointment with the way this forum is run... And working on scripts and ebuilds for Gentoo of course, because why on earth would I bother around here when:
The dev1galaxy.org (almost) No Code of Conduct
Quite clearly reads "Rules for thee, not for me" and "Abuse of authority, blatant derailing of threads with pseudo-philosophical mumbo-jumbo, and venomous personal attacks are acceptable from anyone with the Administrator tag."
In case you had forgotten, here's a quick recap of the impression you left with the last newly-registered competent user and potential future contributor:
This is probably the most self contradictory statement I've read in a while, I came to the forums because of an issue I had, and the only thing you've contributed is 300 posts of spite towards everyone, and coming from an admin.
Notice they haven't posted since. Bravo.
conspiracy theorist basket cases frequenting this site over the years - given free reign
Which I have also called out on several occasions. I have no interest in political affiliation though, nutcases and nonsense are much the same no matter the flavour.
The admin aren't the only perceived problem.
I'd argue the admins are the problem, when said free-reign is seemingly dispensed based on whether vitriol targets approved punching-bags or the drivel one is spewing aligns with similarly deranged tirades from site admins.
Point out issues with Devuan - you're the problem. Hurl abuse and slander at other FOSS projects and developers - pat on the back.
Espouse the right political views and sufficient anti-establishment impotent rage - do whatever you like, you're tribe.
it's likely one of the big factors in why Devuan project isn't taken seriously by many
Of course it is. I for one would love to see Devuan taken more seriously (especially by technically competent users and potential contributors), but that's never going to happen with the culture that is encouraged around here.
They are plenty of projects that are socially toxic.
Devuan as a whole is largely fine, it's just the administration of this board.
Separate repos for each user's contributions
I'm following the AUR architecture. It's over 20 years old, i doubt you'll do better.
Arch isn't the only game in town, Gentoo has had "overlays" since before Arch existed and those come in both varieties - most are per-contributor (and usually self-hosted), while project GURU serves as an official community repository, with oversight somewhere between "trusted Gentoo packaging" and "J. Random git bucket".
GURU structure and regulation sounds similar to what you are proposing (and the latter is strict enough to allay my earlier concern WRT quality), so it might be worth plagiarising reading.
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Yes, yes he is.
And
You just gave me an opportunity to fire up my image blocker.
Is as petty as ever.
Remember...
Reminisce about your glory days a bit harder Go, maybe it will start to sound like an apology - which is what you really owe greenjeans for that earlier comment.
options to distract users from focusing on essentials. Seems a bit like "fiddling while Rome burns"
Huh, must be the same crystal ball after all... I was thinking the same about forum themes and "visual identity".
Since other people's proposals for attracting more packagers and maintainers are apparently a waste of effort, perhaps this is a good time to introduce yours?