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#1 Re: Other Issues » difficulty compiling openssl » Yesterday 22:56:22

The Devuan imperative has always been: do not use stable, oldstable. or oldoldstable as release codenames!

Those codenames have individual meanings for the forked packages and the Debian packages., so there is always this period of time when Debian has "moved" its meanings (e.g. it's stbale packages are in the trixie release) while the Devuan forked packages have note so "moved" (e.g., its "stable" packages are still in the "daedalus" release).

The reason may be of some complexity to digest, but the rule is simple:
do not use stable, oldstable. or oldoldstable as release codenames!

#2 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » iSCSI autostart » Yesterday 11:02:19

@deutschem: I have assumed that you have 1) an iscsi server correctly set up and running, and 2) set up the client with the required configuration regarding targets and identities. Are those assumptions correct? To me it looks like the client (initiator) cannot connect to a server.

I'd suggest you don't worry about the rc?.d/ links too much; they only come into play at boot and shutdown.

#3 Re: Installation » Also UEFI install problems » 2025-10-01 23:05:50

@sun skin only, you got your own thread. If you want to pursue any one of the range of issues you voice (or maybe all at once), you may continue on this thread.

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » iSCSI autostart » 2025-10-01 22:37:45

Hmm I think you may need to enable iscid as well, as the /etc/rcS.d/K01iscsid may cause it to be stopped inadvertently on boot. By enabling it, it will be started on boot even with the "on demand" set up, but otherwise it might get killed by init. It should really have kill links only in 0 and 6; (looks like the debian developer is less read-in on sysvinit than could be expected).

#5 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » iSCSI autostart » 2025-10-01 12:43:18

Yes, you need to edit /etc/iscsid.conf to add a comment hash (#) for the systemctl line and uncomment the service line, which as you say would need to be corrected to read:

iscsid.startup = /usr/sbin/service iscsid start

This is a set up to start iscsid "on demand".

Aiui, open-iscsi service is a client side target administration service that depends on the connection service iscsid being started either as part of the boot sequence or on demand.

When you install open-iscsi the service is not enabled, and you need to enable at least open-iscsi (with the conf corrected as above). If you use sysvinit, the proper command for that is:

# update-rc.d iscsid enable
# update-rc.d open-iscsi enable

where the first command is optional; if the conf is corrected then the connection daemon is started on demand.

Those commands make it available on the next boot. If you need it before that you'll need to start open-iscsi manually.

#6 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] LibreOffice install failing (daedalus ARM64) » 2025-09-30 00:28:04

You seem to have a mix of sources; e.g.
    docker-ce is not a package in either daedalus or excalibur;
    iptables=1.8.9-2 is in daedalus;
    libxtables12=1.8.11-2 is in excalibur

It's quite easy to mix sources.list points from anywhere, and usually doing so ends up with confusion about packages and what is where and why.

The whole idea behind a debian (and devuan) "release" is to offer a collection of software that works together. There is no promise that packages of different releases, or "foreign packages" for that matter, work together.

#7 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] rtl8188ftv » 2025-09-28 12:18:13

Does the command

# modprobe rtl8xxxu

change anything?

The module is available and obviously the model is recognised but apparently there's some automagic udev step that is broken for you.

How did you install Devuan? Which release are you using?

#8 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] No WiFi. No WiFi devices in Connman. » 2025-09-28 06:52:20

Not sure it'll make a difference, but the normal sequence is:
   to run "apt-get update" first, because that updates the local meta information to be current.
   thereafter you run "apt-get upgrade" to bring existing packages up-to-date as much as possible.
  finally you run "apt-get dist-upgrade" to also handle changing dependencies of new package versions, which may involve both removing and installing packages.

Does udev detect the device and install associated modules? What's in /sys/class/net/
What's in your latest boot dmesg?

#10 Re: Freedom Hacks » ALSA: Dogmatism and Empiriokritizismus » 2025-09-26 00:16:37

I'm not sure what you take issue with... perhaps just that documentation on the web is old?

Otherwise I think one of the confusing aspects of ALSA configuration changes is that in general any program that use the audio system will end up loading an instantiating a configuration structure internally only once, when it starts. Therefore, such programs need restart after a change to the configuration source files, which include the user's .asoundrc file.

Though, a program may of course have been made to reload the configuration, and in that case such a program will do so as programmed and then rebuild the internal configuration structure from that on file.

I would suggest that old and bad documentation can only be remedied by writing new and better documentation; grumbling about what's existing and discussing it's badness is just waste of time.

#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » (alsa) changin soundcard easily via terminal » 2025-09-22 13:18:54

Yes, and one thing that is confusing with ALSA is that programs typically loads the sound configuration only once, early during startup. Therefore such a change to the configuration only takes effect for programs that are started after the change.

There is a way to make a configuration have a dynamic part, to be automatically reloaded upon every sink (or source) creation instead, but then we are entering a deeper level of understanding of ALSA configuration structure and elements which most people rather wish to avoid.

#13 Re: Installation » Cant do upgrade Dadedalus to Ceres » 2025-09-22 11:43:52

@igorzwx: this dance is getting tedious. Please don't push me to use the "Ban User" dialog.

#14 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Strange directories in root » 2025-09-20 22:52:20

Hmm I have a /.cache with two sub directories

drwx------  2 root root 4096 Jun 17 01:15 mesa_shader_cache
drwx------ 52 root root 4096 Jun 17 01:15 mesa_shader_cache_db

and then some directory tree down to pairs of files. All of that created and modified at that one time. Presumably mine belongs to some "mesa" package.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan (fresh install) noticeably slow compared to debian » 2025-09-13 05:11:08

So you are saying that sway+wayland on devuan (of some version) is or seems to be noticeable slower than something else on something else? ...???

Obviously one must ask: what on what was the baseline? And in what way do you notice that loss in speed?

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] wifi doesn't work (N100 processors) » 2025-09-13 01:00:14

What do you get from rfkill  ? (you might need to install it).

#19 Re: Other Issues » Alsa errors during boot of Excalibur » 2025-09-06 23:09:15

Did you try

find /usr /var /etc -name '*90?alsa?restore?std*'

The file is somewhere.

You should also check

dpkg -S 90-alsa_restore_std

to see where it comes from.

#20 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] OpenRC Woes » 2025-09-06 09:11:26

@rwall, add some double-quotes, and make that line 17 be

if [ ! -e "${RC_SVCDIR}/softlevel" ]; then

and then you won't have that problem (at least).

#21 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-24 16:05:01

I don't understand how you get to http://mirror.mephi.ru/devuan/devuan/di … backports/ from your sources.list ... and what relevance that has here

I'm (also) using the same list:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free

and don't have any problem.

# apt-get update
Get:1 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports InRelease [26.5 kB]  
Get:2 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main all Packages [176 kB]
Get:3 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 Packages [408 kB]
Get:4 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main Translation-en [370 kB]
Get:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease [33.5 kB]                
Get:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease [26.6 kB]       
Get:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates InRelease [26.1 kB]        
Get:8 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib all Packages [2632 B]
Get:9 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib amd64 Packages [6216 B]
Get:10 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib Translation-en [6345 B]
Get:11 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free all Packages [4936 B]
Get:12 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages [8310 kB]     
Get:13 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free amd64 Packages [14.7 kB]
Get:14 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free Translation-en [32.2 kB]
Get:15 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main Translation-en [6476 kB]     
Get:16 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib amd64 Packages [50.7 kB]  
Get:17 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib Translation-en [46.9 kB]  
Get:18 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free amd64 Packages [98.3 kB] 
Get:19 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free Translation-en [91.4 kB] 
Get:20 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages [392 kB]
Get:21 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main Translation-en [281 kB]
Get:22 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib amd64 Packages [2908 B]
Get:23 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib Translation-en [2722 B]
Get:24 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free amd64 Packages [1200 B]
Get:25 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free Translation-en [1274 B]
Get:26 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main amd64 Packages [17.9 kB]
Get:27 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main Translation-en [10.8 kB]
Fetched 16.9 MB in 23s (731 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done

Perhaps remove all files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and then try apt-get update again.

#22 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-24 10:05:12

(I assume "freer" is a misspelling)

I can't replicate the problem, but an access timeout may have many reasons.
Does the "same thing" happen every time?

#23 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-24 07:21:38

I'm trying to setup a test; would you mind show your sources.list, as well as the apt configurations (in /etc/apt/apt.conf  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*)?

#24 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] No audio on Excalibur through pipewire on KDE wayland » 2025-08-23 13:35:14

How about we leave this thread here (without me actually closing it) as there is no value in adding opinions here one way or the other. If I get inspired I'll weed it and retain the technical matters for later.

#25 Re: Packaging for Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera-backports in archive.devuan.org » 2025-08-23 13:16:26

It might look odd, yes; there is Translation-en.bz2 in devuan while there is Translation-en.xz in debian. However that's the same for other (non-archived) codenames as well.

Do you get a complaint with apt-get update?

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