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#1 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan (fresh install) noticeably slow compared to debian » Yesterday 23:54:49
no , partitioning the windows is not that risky, you can do that inside windows, no problem at all; only issue i found with ddual-triple booting or the like is that grub tends to install itself at times, even when told otherwise, onto the windows partition in EFI, but that can be easily fixed if it so happens; (booting into windows and deleting the entry manually via diskpart et al) maybe this happens beause my BIOS could have trouble differentiating the three NVME i have installed, have not found a reason why it happens on my PC. (it seems they are getting mixed up or "tossed around" sometime)
you can check that by going into BIOS after you finished your install of Linux, and look if you find on Windows SSD side two entries, one for Windows Manager, and one for Ubuntu or Debian or whatever; of course if you want to use a SSD for both systems, then it should be that way , provided you install install Grub onto location that is being proposed to you.
#2 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan (fresh install) noticeably slow compared to debian » 2025-09-15 18:23:28
think the netselect-apt is not yet fully compatible with devuan; it would be nice to have a easy tool via terminal to select the fastest server based on ones location.
EDIT: if you can afford, you would be better of using a pcie ssd over a sata based one; you can then still use the sata ssd for data storage or for your windows installation if you so like; basically you can find pcie ssd a cheaper prices than sata ssd sometimes nowadays. this does not explain why for you debian could be better chose.
#3 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] devuan (fresh install) noticeably slow compared to debian » 2025-09-15 16:30:19
debian13 is quite responsive, especially when downloading packages;
but proof is in the pudding, and feeling is that devuan overall is more responsive, even when run on gen3x4 ssd over an debian on gen4x4 ssd;
the n100 is 12thn gen, and should be very good for easy task requiring single execution; certainly another league than most atom ever were, probably.
that said, i like apu more, because overall round package, although it is difficult with driver sometimes.
#4 Re: Off-topic » Opinions about keypassXC » 2025-09-07 09:28:37
@zappa, thanks, looked again, the 3a mini is sans-nfc, maybe the one for me.
but i like the numpad on the onlyky, "looks" useful.
found that even with passkey it often needs another verification with 2fa, like on ebay, so you still need another device at hand.
maybe such one could help
https://www.token2.com/shop/product/mol … ware-token
#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-05 21:00:25
thanks , will look into it; the DAC is relegated into another task, so my config could stand for HDMI and why two Intel HDA.
Audio:
Device-1: AMD driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: AMD Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-38-amd64 status: kernel-api
| Main menu |
---------------
Curr. | Used | Play (def) | Rec (def) | Available cards
----------|------|------------|-----------|-----------------------------------
0 - >>>>> | * | * * | * * | HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
1 - | * | * | * | HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
2 - | * | * | * | HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Genericit is AMD graphics, but Intel driver;
Aristophanes, Juvenal? No, i am still learning to read properly. computer screen reading tending to dislike but still on it, also bit of a mystery.
But fallback mechanism would be not bad, maybe KDE has implemented into Phonon, if i remember correctly from KDE 3 or 4.
Thanks for guiding me along to also stand on my own feet.
Gonna take a recess ... to read.
Ciao.
#6 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-05 19:04:58
to get back to original topic:
now have installed devuan 5.0 (with cinnamon, alas);
issue at hand is that i don't have fallback mechanism; it seems with arateconf i can not easily implement?
for example at the moment i have only
internal audio +
hdmi audio
translates to
(arateconf)
0 >> hdmi
1 >> intel audio hd?
2 >> intel audio hd?
intel audio hd is listed twice, but i have only one audio card to my knowlegdge?
so i need to set (2) as (default playback) because if i set (1) then there is no sound;
now, however, i would like to for example, fallback to (0>hdmi) if i switch off the loudspeakers ; and switch back to (2>intel audio hd) if i turn on the loudspeaker;
normally , this would be also achievable through sound applet in task bar; but cinnamon does not seem to offer such option; maybe i have made again a bad decision by not heeding your advice of using M A T E, but the window management is nice on cinnamon, can also be adapted on mate;
do you think this is issue with cinnamon or how could i improve the situation with alsa - arateconf? do ineed to manually set options for switchting sound card in alsa configuration?
thanks.
#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-05 18:48:59
If you quote AI, you might be mobbed by AI haters.
it is the thin line called "satira" that a lot of fall prey to; so it is best avoided, such to give less space to misinterpretations.
but pungent remarks can hardly be called satira, and as such should be fully welcomed by awakening minds and such type.
i dislike censorshop, but even more so disonesty, travestie, misguidance, untruthfulness, and fautora of AI dominance are in for a rude awakening;
#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » trying to keep my 100yr-old father computing for another year » 2025-09-05 14:49:48
found that the mail reader easiest to read is undoubtedly "sylpheed" ;
unfortunately it does not support RSS plugin (as does claws-mail), but your probably would not mind;
(it needs some adaptation for gmail to function if 2FA is active, though)
congratulations for having such a "modern" and lively father 
#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-05 14:37:32
AI is not allowed to use on Devuan forums.
that was funny, what would make you say that? who decided it? who was the dictatorial "benefactor"?
#10 Other Issues » benchmark anomalies > hpl (linpack) » 2025-09-05 14:32:03
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Hello ,
must have gotten watched too many "educational" video,
now tested this benchmark called "linpack" on the main computer running Linux in two flavors
1 > Kubuntu 25.04 (with amdgpu, via amdgpu-install)
2 > Devuan 5.0 (with firmware-amd-graphics)
the computer is as such the same, just the OS are sitting on two different SSD (one is PCIe gen 4x4 for Kubuntu , one is PCIe gen 3x4 for Devuan)
the results of running the benchmark are quite different;
for Kubuntu the result is around 800 Gigaflops?
for Devuan 5.0 (or Linux Mint) the benchmark would top out at around 200 Gigaflops?
This result seem rather questionalble to me so i wonder what one should make out of it?
The install is via
phoronix-test-suite.deb and then install from there hpl and running it through the suite (no configuratin needed).
for Kubnut 25.04
Evaluating External Test Dependencies ....................................................................................................................
Phoronix Test Suite v10.8.4
Installed: pts/hpl-1.0.0
OPERATING SYSTEM: Ubuntu 25.04
Kernel: 6.14.0-29-generic (x86_64)
Desktop: KDE Plasma 6.3.6
Display Server: X Server 1.21.1.16
Compiler: GCC 14.2.0 + Clang 20.1.2
Security: gather_data_sampling: Not affected
+ ghostwrite: Not affected
+ indirect_target_selection: Not affected
+ itlb_multihit: Not affected
+ l1tf: Not affected
+ mds: Not affected
+ meltdown: Not affected
+ mmio_stale_data: Not affected
+ reg_file_data_sampling: Not affected
+ retbleed: Not affected
+ spec_rstack_overflow: Mitigation of IBPB on VMEXIT only
+ spec_store_bypass: Mitigation of SSB disabled via prctl
+ spectre_v1: Mitigation of usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
+ spectre_v2: Mitigation of Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
+ srbds: Not affected
+ tsx_async_abort: Not affected Current Description: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 8-Core testing with a ASUS PRIME X670-P (3278 BIOS) and Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7600 8GB on Ubuntu 25.04 via the Phoronix Test Suite.
New Description:
HPL Linpack 2.3:
pts/hpl-1.0.0
Test 1 of 1
Test Profile Status: Experimental
Estimated Trial Run Count: 3
Estimated Time To Completion: 6 Minutes [12:37 UTC]
Started Run 1 @ 12:31:16
Started Run 2 @ 12:33:15
Started Run 3 @ 12:35:14
Test Results:
798.66
799.4
798.8
Average: 798.95 GFLOPS
Deviation: 0.05%for Devuan 5.0 "Daedalus"
sudo phoronix-test-suite run hpl
Phoronix Test Suite v10.8.4
OPERATING SYSTEM: Devuan 5
Kernel: 6.1.0-38-amd64 (x86_64)
Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8
Display Server: X Server 1.21.1.7
Compiler: GCC 12.2.0
Security: gather_data_sampling: Not affected
+ indirect_target_selection: Not affected
+ itlb_multihit: Not affected
+ l1tf: Not affected
+ mds: Not affected
+ meltdown: Not affected
+ mmio_stale_data: Not affected
+ reg_file_data_sampling: Not affected
+ retbleed: Not affected
+ spec_rstack_overflow: Not affected
+ spec_store_bypass: Mitigation of SSB disabled via prctl
+ spectre_v1: Mitigation of usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
+ spectre_v2: Mitigation of Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
+ srbds: Not affected
+ tsa: Not affected
+ tsx_async_abort: Not affected Enter a name for the result file: devuan 5.0 / firmware-amd-graphics
Enter a unique name to describe this test run / configuration:
If desired, enter a new description below to better describe this result set / system configuration under test.
Press ENTER to proceed without changes.
Current Description: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 8-Core testing with a ASUS PRIME X670-P (3278 BIOS) and Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7700S/7600S 8GB on Devuan 5 via the Phoronix Test Suite.
New Description:
[Performance Tip] The CPU scaling governor is currently not set to performance. It's possible to obtain greater performance if using the performance governor.
To change behavior, run:
echo performance | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor
Reference: https://openbenchmarking.org/result/1706268-TR-CPUGOVERN32
To stop showing performance tips, run: phoronix-test-suite unload-module perf_tips
Continuing in 5 seconds or press CTRL-C to stop the testing process.
HPL Linpack 2.3:
pts/hpl-1.0.0
Test 1 of 1
Test Profile Status: Experimental
Estimated Trial Run Count: 3
Estimated Time To Completion: 21 Minutes [14:45 UTC]
Started Run 1 @ 14:25:02
Started Run 2 @ 14:31:40
Started Run 3 @ 14:38:27
Started Run 4 @ 14:44:48 *
Started Run 5 @ 14:51:43 *
Started Run 6 @ 14:58:29 *
Started Run 7 @ 15:05:16 *
Started Run 8 @ 15:12:00 *
Started Run 9 @ 15:18:51 *
Test Results:
217.92
213.63
228.29
208.93
213.66
212.91
215.11
210.84
213.59
Average: 214.99 GFLOPS
Deviation: 2.60%
Samples: 9#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-05 12:27:47
thanks igorzwx,
switched to Devuan 5.0 (cinnamon) and everything functioned fine so far (system-d-less, alsa-only, no-snap, flatpak, cups etc).
also without amdgpu; since i have no high-resolution display 4k/5k, the program can use raw cpu power to make the necessary calculations that otherwise would be offload to GPU;
ran however this benchmark on both kubuntu and devuan/(or mint) and the value for kubuntu is thrice+ (~800 vs ~200) the value am getting on devuan or mint; wonder if there is any worth to this benchmark;
HPL Linpack 2.3:
pts/hpl-1.0.0#12 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Firewire optical drive not recognized » 2025-09-05 12:16:00
thank you for correcting,
it seems the drive might have issues, it would read not very many media; some cd it would read, but with dvd now had less luck;
could also be due to the aftermarket ac/adapter that had to buy;
#13 Re: Off-topic » Opinions about keypassXC » 2025-09-05 07:58:04
my primarey key it tokentoo , it cost only fraction of yubiky, but cannot be used yet for keepassxc; there is another one supposed by good, but it is not easily available in europe, onlyky.
EDIT: it seems the onlyky is now also available through store in 'ol europe, but maybe won't probabyly function with keepasxc. but maybe there are some other function that other key don't have onbarod.
EDIT2- thanks, will look into/maybe try the nitroky, reads promising! ,but i dislike to NFC ont eh ky.
#14 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-05 07:33:31
it might be so;
yes, i know the routine offered by debian wiki to install the drivers, but those are not sufficient for the opencl;
have found a bug in mint (mate); it would not let me arrange the monitors as desired in the monitor preferences; it might be an error in linux mint or else;
this error occurs irrespective of amdgpu installed or not; also after un-installing (and reboot) amdgpu the error persists;
#15 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-04 20:59:13
ti would not install, is it important?
sudo apt remove mate-desktop-environment-extra mate-desktop-environment-extras
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package 'mate-desktop-environment-extra' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'mate-desktop-environment-extras' is not installed, so not removed
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.need amdgpu (opencl) also for this program, quite to my like
#16 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-04 20:47:58
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
mate-desktop-environment-extras : Depends: mate-desktop-environment (= 1.26.0+1ubuntu6) but 2023.08.28+mint21.2 is to be installed
Recommends: caja-eiciel but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: caja-gtkhash but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: caja-image-converter (>= 1.26) but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: caja-rename but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: caja-seahorse but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: dconf-editor but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: mate-dock-applet but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: mate-menu (>= 18.04) but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: mate-tweak (>= 18.04) but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: mate-user-share (>= 1.26) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.was already suspecting there might be issues with "zara" 22.2 ; there could be safer play with 22.1 "xia" overall i like mint quite a lot (no snaps, flatpak pre-installed, relatively stable) , but it all tend to be slow , although i have relatively new hardware; maybe the graphics driver is not super-correctly installed; amdgpu driver install can be bit of a challenge, there are many different routines and options, can bit confusing;
ls -1 /etc/xdg/autostart | grep 'mate-volume-control\|nm-applet'
mate-volume-control-status-icon.desktop
nm-applet.desktopkubuntu is sort of stable now; had to go the 25.04 for wayland; on 25.04 you can retain amdgpu (for 24.04); whereas on 25.10 would loose it;
probably time to ditch amdgpu altogether and get back on the devuan-cruiser.
#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-04 20:23:51
Do you have a testing system?
well, sort of, have 2 nvme at disposal for linux; one is main system drive (atm kubuntu), the other is varying, atm for ubuntu flavors, since am still using amdgpu driver ; installing linux mint 22.2 mate edition as i type.
#18 Re: Off-topic » Opinions about keypassXC » 2025-09-04 20:19:33
i use it with yubiky and like it quite a lot < may not be securest, but helps to concentrate passwords in one place.
#19 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Firewire optical drive not recognized » 2025-09-04 19:20:54
Consider using an OEM written media to test the drive.
what do you mean by that? like an audio CD that came from a Musicshop? or a Film - DVD?
no, no dmesg , but had checked previously , and the drive figured among the long listing.
now mac is back to mac os x; will check another time with a live-session.
EDIT: if on mac it says "unreadable", there is high chance it is "readable" but contains a linux session or similar, that for mac is just not "readable" out of the box, but still perfectly readable for the drive itself.
#20 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-04 18:56:21
hello igorzwx,
i am still experimenting with Desktop OS; none has yet fully satisfied, but that is outside of scope.
would you mind giving a comment on Kubuntu since it is functioning quite well since i have newer system with AMD graphics and need for some Amdgpu driver sometimes for DRM to watch TV on Computer etc.
now if i attempt your "trick" with removeing Pulseaudio et Pipewire getting this
The following packages will be REMOVED:
gstreamer1.0-pipewire* kubuntu-desktop* libcanberra-pulse* pipewire* pipewire-bin* pipewire-pulse* plasma-pa* pulseaudio-utils* wireplumber*this on kubuntu 25.04 (wayland enabled); practically it removes the whole desktop, as it did on debian 7 and 8 with gnome3 if one attempted to remove pulseaudio;
is it safe to do? this install is already sort of a "hybrid" since there are no official amdgpu drivers outside of (for Ubuntu) outside Ubuntu LTS (hence atm 22.04 and 24.04).
Thanks.
#21 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Firewire optical drive not recognized » 2025-09-04 08:37:01
it seems the media itself it good (containing a Devuan Full.iso installer)
on the mac side it reads it, or better, recognizes it as "not readable".
#22 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-03 12:25:23
well thank you, this has functioned beautifully.
really one big problemsolver! best of wishes.
EDIT: i don't necessarily "like" arch, but they tend to have good documentation.
#23 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-03 09:01:17
no luck this time with apulse
have inserted the error on github support page, maybe the develper can help. thanks!
#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-03 08:34:04
have tested with app cmus and set output_plugin to alsa however it still would not play; any ideas?:::
error is
Error: opening audio device: No such file or directory
the audio however is playing fine through firefox and/or mpv, rhythmbox etc.
#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] (alsa) arateconf not saving properly » 2025-09-02 21:38:31
thanks, but i have not yet s/pdif on the PC motherboard; was planning to buy the pcie x1 card , but postponed; will check then.
yes, i have heard that sound over USB may be spotty, and although it seems there offer higher bandwith intotal when compared to s/pdif, that may well not be the whole there is to the story.
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