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#2376 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-18 16:28:51

thezeit wrote:
Panopticon wrote:

Maybe something like a Lua script, ala conkyrc to conky.config ?

There's a Python-based converter from systemd to sysvinit here:
https://github.com/akhilvij/systemd-to- … -converter.

Yes. We already are aware of that. There will be a way forward.

#2377 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-16 16:48:50

Panopticon wrote:

Unfortunately linus has submitted to the CoCs.

He's between a rock and a hard place.   CPS has been called and he's been deemed unfit to run a daycare.   Having his baby snatched from him is unthinkable but a real possibility if he doesn't submit to this crap.   He should fork the kernel and kiss the LF behind.  Hey, I can dream . . .

#2379 Re: Other Issues » qt speech cannot find in Synaptic » 2018-10-16 00:02:08

It is not anywhere in Devuan/Debian: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … elease=any  Maybe that's not the correct pkg name.

#2380 News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-15 18:20:49

golinux
Replies: 35

Also posting this news here to keep all Devuan users in the loop.  Solutions are being discussed . . .

Many of us knew this day would come.  The lock-in is nearly complete.

Holger Levsen Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:15:19 -0700
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it just that
> > no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core?
>
> The latter.  systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and has
> RC bugs.   sysvinit currently has two maintainers, but they've only
> ever made one upload (over a year ago).

It seems that these facts are either largely ignored or unknown and I
wonder if some noise should be made so that interested people can pick
up the work now and not only complain later.

Source: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-dev … 55832.html

As Christopher Barry said in his Aug 12 2014 Open letter to the Linux World:

OneLinux == zero-choice

#2381 Re: Installation » Latest devuan jessie update causing authentication problems » 2018-10-13 14:54:05

Have you read the "Session management and policykit backends" section in the Release Notes?  Looks like Mate uses slim + consolekit.

#2383 Re: Installation » [Solved] Huge .xsession-errors file » 2018-10-12 22:07:02

I have had .xsession-errors files much larger than that because I forget to check.  My home  stuffed with ~250 GB so that file isn't a noticeable blip.  It is possible to open those logs.  Just change the encoding.

#2385 Re: Installation » Migration from stretch » 2018-10-08 19:13:41

Is there a reason you posted the same text twice?   I could edit it but would prefer that you correct your own post.

#2386 Re: Documentation » Como crear tu propio repositorio con Amprolla » 2018-10-08 15:37:01

@HextorBRX . . . see how useful the DNG mailing list is?

#2387 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Tried to Install libav-tools then I got this message » 2018-10-08 14:48:28

auto.mirror was deprecated but then this happened a few weeks ago and now announced again after an oversight:

https://webmail.dyne.org/?_task=mail&_mbox=INBOX

Please consider joining the DNG mail list to keep current.

#2388 Re: Off-topic » I am new to Linux however i dislike systemd » 2018-10-06 21:41:12

cynicfm wrote:

Btw golinux i remember that u used to tell me off that i chat with people on #devuan and i should go chat on #devuan-fork instead, haha. I didnt have idea that you're administrator ;D

Yup.  And I carry a big stick!  LOLOLOLOL! I often try to move chat unrelated to Devuan from #devuan to #debianfork.  And I sometimes move topics here too.  Think of it as housecleaning.  Thanks for posting in the appropriate place on this forum.

#2389 Re: Off-topic » I am new to Linux however i dislike systemd » 2018-10-06 20:52:10

@dxrobertson . . . Please read MX Linux' systemd policy:

MX Linux ships with systemd present but disabled by default. The MX Linux team strongly urges users to remain with this configuration which uses sysvinit instead.

I don't consider this approach systemd-free as all the "tentacles" needed to enable systemd are still present.   It's no more systemd-free than a vanilla Debian with sysvinit.  Yet the systemd-free label persists.  Go figure.

#2390 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Tried to Install libav-tools then I got this message » 2018-10-05 20:56:00

deb.devuan.org is a round-robin of these mirrors - http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt - that rsync with pkgmaster.devuan.org.

#2391 Re: DIY » Porting Tails OS to Devuan / Disclosure & Discussion Thread » 2018-10-03 18:14:46

I have been using Xfce for over 5 years and never had either of these problems.  I have 7 desktops running with 3/4 different browsers going at all times.  I often do extensive graphical, audio and video editing and will keep those windows in and out of suspend for days/weeks at a time.   The only "freezing" issue I have ever had is with firefox - no surprise there.  xkill fixes that with one click.  I use the nouveau driver and it works well with intel graphics.   

I'd start by checking every option under the window manager settings.   But it sounds like more of a graphics driver issue to me.  Could also be lack of hardware resources.  I just impulse ordered another 4GB RAM last night.  big_smile

#2392 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Italian Speaking Forum » 2018-10-02 21:56:47

Your English has always seemed just fine to me.  Feel free to start a mailing list if that seems like the best idea to you.  If it takes off and gathers a robust following, it might even eventually find a home with other Devuan/Dyne mail lists.  When this forum started it was a personal project that a few of us took on and look at it now!

#2393 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Italian Speaking Forum » 2018-10-02 15:32:37

Well, it was his/her choice not ours.  User community projects like that are under user control to create, host and support etc..  Several others have tried and failed also.  Perhaps you can reverse the curse!

(I could google translate this but have no way of knowing how accurate it would be so please forgive the English)

#2394 Re: Installation » [SOLVED, don't buy one to begin with] dell xps-13 » 2018-10-02 14:34:34

Why would that be necessary when Devuan has all of Debian's non-free drivers available at the user's discretion?

#2395 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Italian Speaking Forum » 2018-10-02 14:32:30

That forum was initiated and maintained by a Devuan user, Capricornus iirc, who disappeared after that.  I believe there were some notes posted here and on that forum about the pending closure.   Perhaps now, a year later, there would be interest in trying again.  Wouldn't hurt to ask.  I still have the logo if you're interested.

#2396 Re: Intergalactic Communities » French Speaking Forum » 2018-10-02 04:26:32

@HextorBRX . . . Are you using http or https?  You should be using http.

#2397 Re: Other Issues » Intel HD Audio Is Not Working (Ceres) » 2018-10-02 03:31:37

But . . . but . . . but . . . it's pulseaudio . . . yikes

#2398 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Italian Speaking Forum » 2018-10-01 20:50:50

Early on there was an Italian Devuan forum.   I even customized the logo for that forum.  It folded due to lack of participation after about a year.   @viverna . . . iirc you were a member there.

#2399 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Xfce forum down? » 2018-10-01 16:38:10

It's back up now.  Was down even yesterday.

#2400 Re: Off-topic » Tim Berner: More secure web » 2018-10-01 04:47:24

Hmmm . . . sounds too good to be true and a little trendy to be honest.  All the social networking and invitation to join them on Glitter pushed me over the edge.   That chat is Trusted by:  AirBnB, Amazon Web Services, Google, Microsoft.  Good grief, that's not a world that I want to inhabit.  Maybe I'm just too old and cranky . . .

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