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#2326 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Users list in Slim display manager » 2018-10-19 22:39:16

fsmithred . . . doesn't lightdm require a different backend than slim?  I never could get that straightened out.

#2327 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-19 00:16:14

@thezeit . . . I sent you an email.  You might have it blocked

#2328 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-18 22:32:24

dxrobertson wrote:

I saw no mention of retiring OpenRC support on the Debian thread, I am also thinking this should be considered in regards to Devuan; default to OpenRC.  I am running OpenRC on all my Devuan installs and havent encountered any problems.  This is personal opinion, but I find OpenRC easier to understand over sysvinit, and prefer it.  Please, dont want to start any flames nor arguments here.

Currently openrc relies on sysvinit helpers so still tied to it.  Please refer to that thread on DNG.   If those helpers are removed, openrc will be in trouble until there is a mature substitute to take over that function like runit.  we're not there yet.

#2329 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-18 17:31:53

@thezeit  . . . Already being discussed.  Care to do more than suggest solutions?  Maybe roll up your sleeves and get your hands dirty?  We can always use more hands on deck.

#2330 Re: Installation » Installing printer drivers » 2018-10-18 16:32:49

There has been discussion of printers recently on the DNG mail list.  I glossed over most of it because it was TMI but I suspect you might find an answer in there.

#2331 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-18 16:28:51

thezeit wrote:
Panopticon wrote:

Maybe something like a Lua script, ala conkyrc to conky.config ?

There's a Python-based converter from systemd to sysvinit here:
https://github.com/akhilvij/systemd-to- … -converter.

Yes. We already are aware of that. There will be a way forward.

#2332 Re: News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-16 16:48:50

Panopticon wrote:

Unfortunately linus has submitted to the CoCs.

He's between a rock and a hard place.   CPS has been called and he's been deemed unfit to run a daycare.   Having his baby snatched from him is unthinkable but a real possibility if he doesn't submit to this crap.   He should fork the kernel and kiss the LF behind.  Hey, I can dream . . .

#2334 Re: Other Issues » qt speech cannot find in Synaptic » 2018-10-16 00:02:08

It is not anywhere in Devuan/Debian: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … elease=any  Maybe that's not the correct pkg name.

#2335 News & Announcements » Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support » 2018-10-15 18:20:49

golinux
Replies: 35

Also posting this news here to keep all Devuan users in the loop.  Solutions are being discussed . . .

Many of us knew this day would come.  The lock-in is nearly complete.

Holger Levsen Sat, 13 Oct 2018 04:15:19 -0700
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it just that
> > no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core?
>
> The latter.  systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and has
> RC bugs.   sysvinit currently has two maintainers, but they've only
> ever made one upload (over a year ago).

It seems that these facts are either largely ignored or unknown and I
wonder if some noise should be made so that interested people can pick
up the work now and not only complain later.

Source: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-dev … 55832.html

As Christopher Barry said in his Aug 12 2014 Open letter to the Linux World:

OneLinux == zero-choice

#2336 Re: Installation » Latest devuan jessie update causing authentication problems » 2018-10-13 14:54:05

Have you read the "Session management and policykit backends" section in the Release Notes?  Looks like Mate uses slim + consolekit.

#2338 Re: Installation » [Solved] Huge .xsession-errors file » 2018-10-12 22:07:02

I have had .xsession-errors files much larger than that because I forget to check.  My home  stuffed with ~250 GB so that file isn't a noticeable blip.  It is possible to open those logs.  Just change the encoding.

#2340 Re: Installation » Migration from stretch » 2018-10-08 19:13:41

Is there a reason you posted the same text twice?   I could edit it but would prefer that you correct your own post.

#2341 Re: Documentation » Como crear tu propio repositorio con Amprolla » 2018-10-08 15:37:01

@HextorBRX . . . see how useful the DNG mailing list is?

#2342 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Tried to Install libav-tools then I got this message » 2018-10-08 14:48:28

auto.mirror was deprecated but then this happened a few weeks ago and now announced again after an oversight:

https://webmail.dyne.org/?_task=mail&_mbox=INBOX

Please consider joining the DNG mail list to keep current.

#2343 Re: Off-topic » I am new to Linux however i dislike systemd » 2018-10-06 21:41:12

cynicfm wrote:

Btw golinux i remember that u used to tell me off that i chat with people on #devuan and i should go chat on #devuan-fork instead, haha. I didnt have idea that you're administrator ;D

Yup.  And I carry a big stick!  LOLOLOLOL! I often try to move chat unrelated to Devuan from #devuan to #debianfork.  And I sometimes move topics here too.  Think of it as housecleaning.  Thanks for posting in the appropriate place on this forum.

#2344 Re: Off-topic » I am new to Linux however i dislike systemd » 2018-10-06 20:52:10

@dxrobertson . . . Please read MX Linux' systemd policy:

MX Linux ships with systemd present but disabled by default. The MX Linux team strongly urges users to remain with this configuration which uses sysvinit instead.

I don't consider this approach systemd-free as all the "tentacles" needed to enable systemd are still present.   It's no more systemd-free than a vanilla Debian with sysvinit.  Yet the systemd-free label persists.  Go figure.

#2345 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Tried to Install libav-tools then I got this message » 2018-10-05 20:56:00

deb.devuan.org is a round-robin of these mirrors - http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt - that rsync with pkgmaster.devuan.org.

#2346 Re: DIY » Porting Tails OS to Devuan / Disclosure & Discussion Thread » 2018-10-03 18:14:46

I have been using Xfce for over 5 years and never had either of these problems.  I have 7 desktops running with 3/4 different browsers going at all times.  I often do extensive graphical, audio and video editing and will keep those windows in and out of suspend for days/weeks at a time.   The only "freezing" issue I have ever had is with firefox - no surprise there.  xkill fixes that with one click.  I use the nouveau driver and it works well with intel graphics.   

I'd start by checking every option under the window manager settings.   But it sounds like more of a graphics driver issue to me.  Could also be lack of hardware resources.  I just impulse ordered another 4GB RAM last night.  big_smile

#2347 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Italian Speaking Forum » 2018-10-02 21:56:47

Your English has always seemed just fine to me.  Feel free to start a mailing list if that seems like the best idea to you.  If it takes off and gathers a robust following, it might even eventually find a home with other Devuan/Dyne mail lists.  When this forum started it was a personal project that a few of us took on and look at it now!

#2348 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Italian Speaking Forum » 2018-10-02 15:32:37

Well, it was his/her choice not ours.  User community projects like that are under user control to create, host and support etc..  Several others have tried and failed also.  Perhaps you can reverse the curse!

(I could google translate this but have no way of knowing how accurate it would be so please forgive the English)

#2349 Re: Installation » [SOLVED, don't buy one to begin with] dell xps-13 » 2018-10-02 14:34:34

Why would that be necessary when Devuan has all of Debian's non-free drivers available at the user's discretion?

#2350 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Italian Speaking Forum » 2018-10-02 14:32:30

That forum was initiated and maintained by a Devuan user, Capricornus iirc, who disappeared after that.  I believe there were some notes posted here and on that forum about the pending closure.   Perhaps now, a year later, there would be interest in trying again.  Wouldn't hurt to ask.  I still have the logo if you're interested.

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