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#2301 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-07 19:14:06
Man, I keep adding more and more to my plate.
Been doing it for six years here, and it never seems to end. And whatever install or upgrade scripts you make for jessie to ascii, there will be things that break in them when it's time to go ascii to beowulf. I'm not trying to discourage you. Just letting you know what to expect so you won't get discouraged when it happens.
#2302 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-07 19:04:36
There is no default firewall front-end installed in debian or devuan. There is iptables, but no rules are in place. If you install some services that listen for connections, then you will have open ports. (examples: openssh-server, mysql-server, apache2, samba)
If you're behind a router, the router is being scanned, and unless you set up port-forwarding in the router, the outside world can't see the open ports on your computer.
#2303 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-06 11:29:53
For shutdown and reboot, check that you have consolekit, policykit-1, libpam-ck-connector, and maybe policykit-1-gnome. Maybe something else, too, and that might depend on what desktop you're using.
For dns, I just set it in my router. To set it in the system, you can put it in /etc/resolv.conf (nameserver) or /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf (prepend domain-name-servers) or /etc/network/interfaces.
#2304 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] terminal 'history' » 2017-10-05 21:00:28
sort -u ~/.bash_history > temporary-file
cat temporary-file > ~/.bash_history
nl temporary-file > index_fileUse the index file for reference. You don't want to number the lines in .bash_history, but you do want a numbered list.
This will work until you reach the limit of bash_history, and the commands start scrolling off the top. See 'man bash' for the HISTSIZE setting if you want to change the number of lines that get saved. I don't remember what the default is - maybe 1000 or 2000.
#2305 Re: Installation » libgnutls.so.28 » 2017-10-05 20:54:07
When a .so file is missing, you usually need to install the -dev package of whatever.
#2306 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] terminal 'history' » 2017-10-05 13:28:15
sort -u ~/.bash_history#2307 Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-05 01:12:44
- fsmithred
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I turned it off temporarily. Waiting to get clarification from tapatalk on something. Ask here or in freenode #devuan if you need help.
fsmithred
#2308 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-03 21:07:03
Actually it's in the devuan ascii repo (or so says this pkg list) http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ascii/package/yad
The version of yad (0.38) in the ascii repo uses gtk3 and does not work will with refracta tools - buttons are off-screen. I made gtk2 verions in jessie, but they seem to be working fine in ascii -
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file … _packages/
Or, you could package them yourself. I already made the one or two small changes for gtk2.
https://git.devuan.org/fsmithred/yad
#2309 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-02 21:35:20
Maybe soon, for real. I already know that amprolla3 works, because I tried it when it was on a test server. And I noticed today in #devuan-dev that a new devuan-keyring was being built. This is all just circumstantial evidence, but I'm hopeful.
I'm not aware of any problems with leaving ascii-proposed-updates enabled.
#2310 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-02 11:16:55
Make sure you have ascii-proposed-updates enabled in sources.list. Some of the security updates can be found there.
#2311 Re: Installation » flashplayer plugin? » 2017-09-29 23:39:05
#2312 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED]terminal command » 2017-09-28 17:48:38
Use the full path. (without sudo)
export PATH="$PATH:/home/devur/scripts"#2313 Re: Other Issues » Need arm64 headers for 4.6.3 & These forums are really confusing. » 2017-09-27 22:32:23
I don't know anything about arm or pi, but I have to ask: why does it need to be tar.gz? Do you need to install xz-utils to manipulate a file compressed with xz?
'xz -d <file>' to decompress
or
'tar -xvJf <file>' if it's a tar.xz.
#2314 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » security updates, debian repo » 2017-09-25 12:26:11
I'm not sure what the best solution is. One thing you could try is downgrading all those packages to the version you had previously. The deb packages can be found in /var/cache/apt/archives. But that could be messy.
If everything seems to be working, you might just leave it alone. Wait for us to do some work on ascii and then switch your sources from jessie to ascii and upgrade the rest of your packages so they are from the same release as the ones you just pulled from stretch. No guarantees that it won't be messy, too. But maybe it will work ok.
If you are adventurous and know your way around the package manager pretty well, you could try upgrading the rest of the system to ascii now. You will probably run into conflicts. Don't do it unless you are comfortable with the idea of solving those problems and would not mind reinstalling if it turns out badly.
jessie = jessie
ascii = stretch
beowulf = buster
ceres = sid
#2315 Re: Devuan » After Ascii: A Devuan wishlist. » 2017-09-23 10:33:51
Devuan is all about removing that library,.
I don't know where you're getting your information, but that bit is just plain wrong. The default desktop install includes libsystemd0. Devuan is about removing dependency on systemd itself. The lead devs are not concered with that library and don't intend to spend any energy on removing it.
#2316 Re: Other Issues » Compiling, debugging: How do I know what compile settings devuan uses? » 2017-09-21 21:03:13
I don't know if it's related, but thunar has a similar bug. Sometimes it locks up when it's in detailed list view. If I catch it soon enough, I can press ctrl-1 or ctrl-3 to change to icon or simple list view or else close the window by clicking on the x in the corner. If I wait, it totally locks up and has to be killed from command line. It's a known bug in thunar that's been around for years.
#2317 Re: Devuan » About Devuan » 2017-09-20 20:24:23
While it took two years to get a final release of devuan jessie, it was usable long before that. A lot of the delay was just some loose ends to tie up. (Couple of problems came up in the installer.)
We don't expect the next release to take that long. If you test it out in a VM or on a spare computer or even one of the live isos, you'll feel like you're using the debian you remember.
#2318 Re: Devuan » About Devuan » 2017-09-20 19:44:34
Faster boot times. (no more 5-minute waits for a start job)
Predicatable interface names. (I know it's going to be eth0 unless I changed my hardware.)
An init system that's been well-tested. (I might switch to systemd once they're done developing it and it's had time to mature.)
An init system that knows it's an init system and is OK with that.
Probably more, but it's time to let the dogs out.
#2319 Re: Other Issues » Compiling, debugging: How do I know what compile settings devuan uses? » 2017-09-20 13:58:04
Could be a trick question, so I'll give the trick answer first - Devuan didn't use any compile options. Now I'll explain.
Caja is not a devuanized package. You can tell by looking at the version number, which does not have "devuan" appended to it. So it's exactly the same package that debian provides. The compile options can be found in the rules file of the source package, and you can get the source package with the command (as unprivileged user)
apt-get source caja(Make sure you have deb-src lines enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list)
There are good instruction for what to do with that source package here -
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38976
If you do it this way and make a .deb package, then the package manager will know that it's installed. That might be helpful with getting dependencies or if you ever want to install something that depends on caja.
#2320 Re: Installation » Devuan offers one methode of installation » 2017-09-16 16:54:58
So then hd-media would be the way to go. Follow the debian instructions here, but use the devuan files I linked in my previous post.
French:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ … 02.html.fr
Relevant part in English:
A.2.4. Booting from hard disk
It's possible to boot the installer using no removable media, but just an existing hard disk, which can have a different OS on it. Download hd-media/initrd.gz, hd-media/vmlinuz, and a Debian CD image to the top-level directory of the hard disk. Make sure that the CD image has a filename ending in .iso. Now it's just a matter of booting linux with the initrd. Section 5.1.5, “Booting from Linux using LILO or GRUB” explains one way to do it.
https://packages.devuan.org/merged/dist … /hd-media/
https://packages.devuan.org/merged/dist … /hd-media/
#2321 Re: Installation » Devuan offers one methode of installation » 2017-09-16 14:47:15
What new installer of Debian are you talking about? I just booted a new 9.1 debian netinstall iso, and it looks like the same debian-installer that I'm used to. I did notice that the graphical installer needs more than 256mb to boot, but other than that, it looks the same.
Are you looking for this? (Note: if you look around in nearby directories, you can find the mini.iso "business card iso")
https://packages.devuan.org/merged/dist … /hd-media/
If you use one of the Devuan live isos, you can install with refractainstaller, which copies the live system to hard drive.
It's also possible to do a debootstrap install of devuan. You can use a Refracta live-iso for that if you don't already have devuan installed.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/refrac … isohybrid/
#2322 Re: DIY » Backup Media? » 2017-09-15 20:38:00
If I remember right, you have a choice of creating a generic system or one with your personalised settings.
I think that's in remastersys. With refractasnapshot, you have to look over the excludes and decide if you need to add or remove anything. Some of the more obvious personal stuff is already excluded, such as .gnupg, .ssh, list of recently used files, and logs. If you're making a snapshot with some desktop other than xfce, you should check your hidden files.
For example, geany keeps a list of recent files in its own config file, and that file gets cleaned when creating the snapshot. I don't know if other editors do that, so nothing happens to them. I keep the config file in geany instead of just excluding it because I use custom settings for the toolbar.
#2323 Re: DIY » Backup Media? » 2017-09-14 17:39:27
You could use refracta tools to create a bootable, installable live-iso of your system with your configs and software choices. If things change, you would need to create a new iso (not difficult) or an alternative would be to make a live-usb with persistence, boot it on another computer, and then rsync the changes to the usb system. The alternative is more complex, but once you have it set up, it's easy.
refractasnapshot to make a live iso of your system.
refractainstaller to install that system to hard drive if you need to restore.
refracta2usb to make a live-usb with persistence.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/
http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/documents.html
Important note: You may need to edit the excludes file so you don't copy all your data. There's a 4gb limit on the iso size.
#2324 Re: Forum Feedback » Auto-logout » 2017-09-14 11:50:30
The timeout has been increased to 30 minutes.
Also, if you check the box for automatic login (at the login screen) and you set dev1galaxy.org cookies to expire when closing the browser, it's the same as "keep me logged in". You won't be automatically logged in if the cookies are gone, and you won't be logged out if you go beyond the timeout.
#2325 Re: Documentation » xserver-xorg-legacy in ascii » 2017-09-14 11:46:15
Yes, X has been running as root forever, and that only changed with stretch. I don't know the details of how systemd works with that, but the dependence of xorg on systemd also appeared with stretch. According to the linked video, the solution is to switch to wayland. (That's an over-simplified explanation. In fact, a lot of bugs have been fixed as a result of that guy's work.)
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