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#201 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-06-17 00:02:18

Thanks.  Another group mentioned here I havent jammed to in way too long!

MiyoLinux wrote:

For those times when you just wanna sit back, relax, and stinkin' rock...

Thin Lizzy: The Boys are Back in Town

#202 Re: Off-topic » In what country are you right Now ? » 2018-06-16 22:40:22

US, midwest - Ohio.  Grew up in suburbia 60s/70s Columbus.  Now reside in a bit more relaxed area of SE Ohio.  Good to meet all of you!

#203 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to install KDE using apt-get ? » 2018-06-16 16:14:51

kde-standard is a good middle install that includes most of what you would expect in KDE. 

I personally prefer a KDE minimal install and installed kde-plasma-desktop and then installed what ever else I desired after that.  If you decide to go this route I can post what I installed. 

Something to be aware of is last I heard SDDM has problems, and its recommended to install and use LIGHTDM.  You may also have the infamous polkit problem so you will need to apt-get install libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 to fix that.

I am very happy with KDE and devuan, experienced no problems.  Basically I used:

apt-get install lightdm
apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop
encountered polkit problem
apt-get install libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0
then my additional desired applications

#204 Re: Off-topic » I didn't do it!!! » 2018-06-15 23:50:33

MiyoLinux wrote:

The following product is in no way associated with MiyoLinux...

LOLOLOL!!! tongue

https://13707080-557519846114226283.pre … r_orig.png

WOW, you can even create your own inserts, complete with photo capabilities.  Perhaps you should atleast sanction this item.

#205 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-06-13 23:41:26

zephyr wrote:

^ What  Texan doesn't love Willie, been listening to Willie longer than any other artist.

Fan of Kris Kristofferson too!
Gettin' by, High and Strange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI0sfsunaL4

cheers

zephyr

Didnt know much about Kristofferson, then saw him on 1 of the early Farm Aids, liked what I saw.  Then when Highwaymen formed; thats when I was more exposed to his music.  A man of many talents.

#206 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-06-13 00:28:53

Willie Nelson, Angles too Close to the Ground Farm Aid 2016. Hes 83 years old and ate up with arthritis.  Enjoy his guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdQ-Dj7fYGE

#207 Re: Other Issues » /usr/bin/x11 symlink to /usr/bin/X11? » 2018-06-11 11:36:09

Now I see.  I can use /usr/bin/X11/xvinfo, for example.  Yes, seems there once was an actual /usr/bin/X11 directory.  Just dont try to navigate into it.

I never noticed a link pointing in this particular configuration before, makes perfect sense now.

#208 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-06-10 23:38:45

mlsmith wrote:

A beautiful album by two collaborating artists. They each take turns playing the same song but Black Hill does his magic on guitars while HeklAa plays piano.

https://youtu.be/eTvJUa6Vg78

Searched back through the posts on this thread and this album sounded interesting, and it is!  Enjoying... Thanks.

#209 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-06-10 00:10:23

Siouxsie & The Banshees Melt

unique percussion, bass playing rhythm, Robert Smith (The Cure), and Siouxsie's eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-5mVUb1gqM

#210 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-06-10 00:04:47

zephyr wrote:

Procol Harum
a whiter shade of pale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uw1L78PbHU

Robin Trower-bridge of sighs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g9Hs3rnd6s

Some trivia: Trower was the guitarist for Procol Harum

cheers

zephyr

Trower Sighs- slow excellent!  Saw them live early 80s; Trower just stood there mostly in 1 spot and played his magic!

#211 Other Issues » /usr/bin/x11 symlink to /usr/bin/X11? » 2018-06-09 21:45:49

dxrobertson
Replies: 3

Is there a reason for this symlink, that points to itself?  Seems odd to me, an easy way for code to get stuck in a recursive infinite loop.

dxrobertson@dxr-acer:/usr/bin$ ls -l -a | grep X11
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root           1 May  3  2017 X11 -> .
dxrobertson@dxr-acer:/usr/bin$ 
dxrobertson@dxr-acer:/usr/bin$ cd X11
dxrobertson@dxr-acer:/usr/bin/X11$ cd X11
dxrobertson@dxr-acer:/usr/bin/X11/X11$ cd X11
dxrobertson@dxr-acer:/usr/bin/X11/X11/X11$ 

I noticed it doing a search in files using kde kate.  It became stuck in a recursive search inside /usr/bin/X11.  Seems kate is programmed to handle such a situation because it eventually quit and left that directory search and continued on.

#212 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-06-01 00:54:36

Ministry.  "Heaviest" rock group I have ever encountered.  Heavy, yet slow enough for legible lead, beat, rhythm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TjzdbNwTCY

#213 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-05-30 01:17:36

Radiohead.  so good with headphones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng5D98rzGdY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhhWWGEzRL0

and thanks mirolinux and zephyr for a reminder of Boston, remember all that.

#214 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-05-26 01:20:34

Panopticon wrote:

Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSB77e6c94A

Where did you pull that out of?  love that album.

Been a cult fan since Agents of Fortune, then went back in time for more enjoyment on earlier albums and been with them ever since, seen them live many times.  Cult symbol has been inscribed in various places by me and friends for years.

Buck Dharma at his best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pFdkkjGiEs

#215 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Hyperbola Thread » 2018-05-25 01:23:16

I have not used Hyperbola, but what a kool math subject name. 

From viewing your links,  I interpret Hyperbola as more of an ARCH based distro and from your post (http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.p … ut_systemd) ;  "security/stability patches ported from Devuan".  That sounds to me like they are merely pulling in modified package from Devuan rather than basing their distro on Devuan.  And using pacman seems ARCH based.

If you are interested in an ARCH based non-systemd- Artix is based on open-rc.  I ran this system when it was an unofficial release of Manjaro, it was very good and stable; very Manjaro-like.

#216 Re: Other Issues » ifup wait at boot » 2018-05-19 21:46:09

The file is etc/network/interfaces.

The contents before the modification:

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

The file contents after the modification (the fix):

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

#217 Re: Other Issues » ifup wait at boot » 2018-05-19 21:18:38

I know this is an old thread, but still relevant; I just encountered this problem.  Thanks to ralph.ronnquist, that was my very issue. 

I had performed an install without desktop and only later did I install NetworkManager along with KDE.  My etc/network/interfaces had a allow-hotplug eth0 in it.  Removing the config for eth0 fixed the boot delay and the "ifup: waiting for lock on /run/network/interfaces/ifstate.eth0" message is nolonger displayed.

#218 Re: Installation » Manual Install Lightdm Polkit Problem » 2018-05-19 00:23:48

golinux, fsmithred-
Would it be of any benefit to redo my install and install kde-plasma-desktop FIRST and then lightdm?  Do we care?

the reason I install kde-plasma-desktop as opposed to kde-standard is I am interested in a basic install with the least amount of extra software as possible.

#219 Re: Installation » Manual Install Lightdm Polkit Problem » 2018-05-19 00:05:21

figdev- the polkit version would be:

apt list --installed | grep libpolkit

#220 Re: Installation » Manual Install Lightdm Polkit Problem » 2018-05-19 00:00:10

fsmithred-
I get it now.  Didnt realize the different implementations of polkit across various desktops. It makes total sense now why consolekit was installed by lightdm.  Probably not much chance to standardize on a single implementation across the various environments?

#221 Re: Installation » Manual Install Lightdm Polkit Problem » 2018-05-18 23:39:17

After thinking about this, elogind must be production status.  There is no beta in the name.  I would assume Gentoo has something to do with it, thus its solid.

#222 Re: Installation » Manual Install Lightdm Polkit Problem » 2018-05-18 22:46:04

From my user perspective, not sure of the beta/prod status of elogind; seems to be production to me.  I have Devuan 2 running on 3 pcs as daily use with elogind and havent had any problems.  elogind seems to be a viable solution to polkit problems when not using systemd; a very good thing.

#223 Re: Installation » Manual Install Lightdm Polkit Problem » 2018-05-18 22:03:53

@fsmithred-
That seems to be the situation I encountered.  It was the lightdm install (done first, no desktop yet) that installed consolekit (and not elogind).  Then the kde-plasma-desktop install performed after didnt install/care about libpolkit. 

Perhaps in regards to golinux post; I have also installed desktop and kde "properly" by selecting them both at software install selection time and the correct elogind stuff does get installed, no issues there; so thats good.

#224 Installation » Manual Install Lightdm Polkit Problem » 2018-05-18 21:11:06

dxrobertson
Replies: 17

The purpose of this post is to report a problem I had with the RC install.

I installed RC graphic expert and did not install any desktop.  I then manually installed lightdm (and then kde-plasma-desktop but thats irelevant).  Upon reboot I  had the polkit problems of could not mount a different partition, could not shutdown...  Having encounted this before, I knew it was a polkit problem. 

The apt-get install ightdm had installed libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 and libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0.  To fix I then apt-get installed libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 and this installed libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 as well.  All is ok now.

Does this need to be addressed, a standalone install of lightdm install the wrong polkit?  Should I file a bug?  My install is fine now as far as I can tell, just wanted to report this.

#225 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-04-30 00:23:49

@zephyr I recently discovered Brubeck.  Seeking a certain jazz sound, the '64 and '66 sessions are exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks for the Crimson Red link; revisited and enjoyed, so good!  And Led Zep Kashmir. 

Why Zeppelin is so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZiN_NqT-Us

@yeti- thanks for the B52 Planet Claire link.  Punk-pogo-danced to that many times, downloaded the vid and its now part of my collection.

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