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#201 Re: Off-topic » new encroachments of our least favourite init » 2019-12-14 23:57:52

freemedia2018 wrote:

steve litt mentioned gentoo today, that wasnt expected.

I've contacted the Gentoo PR people about this to get some official statement from them. (no idea who this steve fellow is btw, do enlighten me if you can smile )

#202 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-11 12:31:07

Ah, thx for clarifying that.

Anyway, I do hope it's clear my preference would be to get Debian to move away from systemd and its lock-in of FOSS, like many here I s'pose, but I'm afraid that won't happen as it's not an option in that ballot sad

#203 Re: Off-topic » This should be fun... » 2019-12-11 08:17:43

Yup. And reading through the options it's clear that whomever wrote them is obviously intent on getting Debian into the systemd-exclusivity-zone ASAP. Yes, the default option is "more discussion" but only to wear out any pro-init-choice supporters until they give up their resistance or leave the Debian project. Note that the clarification of option 6, which makes it mandatory for Debian dev's to support multiple init-systems, is very, very short indeed, especially in light of the others which favour systemd.

But that's just my interpretation smile

#204 Re: Off-topic » ladies, gentlemen and whomever else: your fifth freedom... » 2019-12-10 05:44:58

The freedom to choose whether or not to run free software and if doing so, which free software. It's a fundamental freedom for FOSS, I'd say it's the very foundation of the whole movement/project/whatever-you-call-it.

#206 Re: ARM Builds » RPi3A+/3B/3B+/(4B) » 2019-11-20 14:59:09

It is, as it's the same with Raspbian: a FAT partition to hold proprietary stuff and a Linux partition (etx3 IIRC) for the remainder.

FYI: I've tried to get Devuan running on the older RPi1 (the original Raspberry Pi) but so far unsuccessfully. Some-one else has shown it works, so there's probably an error on my part. I don't have any newer RPi's.

#207 Re: Other Issues » ASCII i386 repositories [deb.devuan.org] » 2019-11-12 17:30:01

OK, I shall try traceroute if I get round to it on a next update round, whenever I get time for that (long story)

#208 Re: Other Issues » ASCII i386 repositories [deb.devuan.org] » 2019-11-12 06:07:28

No it isn't. This issue has been raised before, so there's probably a small but fundamental error somewhere that has yet to be resolved. I can't solve it, someone more knowledgable should/would/could.

Yesterday I updated my "company-repo", which took a fair while to complete. Yet, no packages were downloaded as apparently, no updates had been made, or at least not processed/mentioned in the various Release files. This is not the first time, that's been going on for weeks now.

#209 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Is "Devuan GNU/Linux 1.0 (jessie)" lastest stable version? » 2019-10-27 23:43:40

Open a terminal and do the following, in this order:

sudo su
<enter your password as asked, confirm with enter, likewise the subsequent commands>
apt-get install aptitude
nano /etc/apt/sources.list
<use the arrow keys to navigate, replace all instances you find of jessie to ascii, save the file with Ctrl+o, exit with Ctrl+x>
aptitude
<this invokes the program interactively>
Press the following keys: u, Shift+u, g, g
(yes, press g twice, make sure you give the program time to finish before pressing the next key!)
The program will now update your system, this will take a fair while
When asked, press q then enter to quit aptitude.
reboot

HTH!

#210 Re: Other Issues » Devuan and chroot » 2019-09-02 20:44:15

Obvious: where does /bin/bash lead you? Is it a sym-link to dash or another shell? And why are you mounting proc twice? (typo, I assume wink )

These are the commands Funtoo uses to chroot into a new install:

mount -t proc none proc
mount --rbind /sys sys
mount --rbind /dev dev
env -i HOME=/root TERM=$TERM /bin/chroot . bash -l

HTH!

#211 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to install and configure Roger-Router in Devuan 2 » 2019-08-31 09:51:59

The project webpage is here, even in German so you should be able to follow it wink

https://tabos.gitlab.io/project/rogerrouter/

Which links further to

https://gitlab.com/tabos

As I have no need for the services this program provides (who uses a fax these days!) I can't tell you anything about its functions.

#212 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » HP 3830 printer connection » 2019-08-30 20:00:26

Ok, good point for Linux wink  Running th test as root also negates my next problem-solver: can your user access USB devices? I still think there must be some permissions issue here, but then, I can be wrong sad

As for my work setup: just Devuan machines with LibreOffice, the hpijs & hplip packages and CUPS installed, worked pretty much OOTB.

#213 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » HP 3830 printer connection » 2019-08-30 18:27:37

Is your normal user part of the lpr group? I.e. can you connect to the device as root? If so, add your user to the lpr group.

As a quick (?) aside: on my work I have a HP3030 happily being shared across a LAN using CUPS. It's connected via USB to a server that also happens to be a printer server. In CUPS I made the printer available for sharing and it shows up on other machines that have the HP driver package installed, as well as CUPS.

#214 Re: Installation » Pi Zero W - How to connect over usb? » 2019-08-28 08:28:20

I've unsuccessfully attempted to use the Devuan RPi images for the RPi1 several times, so I ended up using Raspbian-lite instead. As I'm using this particular RPi in headless mode, systemd is not a overly annoying issue. Using a GUI is rather not recommended though roll

#215 Re: Off-topic » Marginalizing systemd » 2019-08-26 20:58:15

Doesn't RHEL7 come with sysVinit as optional/alternative to systemd? If so, there's your answer wink  Alternatively, building OpenRC might be an option if you deploy the OS on multiple instances of said (embedded) system.

#216 Re: Installation » Disabling or changing size of swap PRIOR to guided install? » 2019-08-26 20:52:32

But there is! If you install Devuan manually on a previously partitioned disk, it'll respect the partition sizes allocated to the various mount-points. This includes SWAP. Admittedly it's an extra step but the sysrescuecd guys offer a nice graphical way to partition and format your system with gparted from the GUI desktop. I don't use encryption (no need as I'm the sole user of my Devuan systems) so can't tell you anything on that.

#217 Re: Installation » Disabling or changing size of swap PRIOR to guided install? » 2019-08-25 22:44:36

On systems where booting from NVMe disk isn't possible, for whatever reason, I'd suggest using the NVMe disk as a cache instead. The system is installed on a 'standard' SSD while the NVMe disk is configured as cache for this SSD. Use the bcache tool from the repo's. And here's the manual: click!

This setup allows the sys-admin to choose any boot configuration and still have the benefits of fast access from the NVMe disk.

HTH!

#219 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Synaptic - Upgrade - Failed to fetch Linux Image 4.9.0-9 AMD64 » 2019-08-16 19:39:43

If you manually download the package from the link provided, does that work for you? If you can, you can install it with dpkg.

Alternatively, what's the output of the commands

uname -a
dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image

#220 Re: Installation » ASCII on RPi1 fails to boot » 2019-08-16 04:36:50

Thx for the reply. I doubt the SD card was/is corrupted, as I mentioned the official Raspbian image worked fine on the same SD card. But it's encouraging you got it working, so I'll try again later (perhaps over the weekend). Thx!

#221 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » installation Nextcloud » 2019-08-15 14:38:09

The user "www-data" is the Apache user, so only applies if you're deploying Apache as your web-server. As for multi-user systems, every Linux system is by default a multi-user system, but most human users will never know, nor have the need to wink

As for the user-permissions issue mentioned by the OP, there's a fairly simple solution: use a live-cd from your distro (I assume Devuan in this case). Boot your system into the live-cd modus and start a terminal. Then, assuming your entire system is on one SATA disk in a single partition (sda1):

mkdir /tmp/devuan-rescue
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/devuan-rescue
cd /tmp/devuan-rescue
chown -R root:root ./*

This creates a temp. directory, then mounts the entire system in that and changes the ownership of all files to root as part of the group root. That should allow you to log back in (as root, obviously) into the system and restore file permissions from there. See also

man chown

This'll list you the various options and correct syntax of the command.

#222 Re: Installation » Devuan Fails to Install on Usb Sata Disk » 2019-08-14 07:56:36

Given the error and your info, I have a hunch therer's a mismatch between the UUID of the Devuan partition you used and the one reported in Grub. Obtain an 8 or 16GB USB stick and install Devuan on that (as sole OS), then try booting it. If that works, the problem is not Devuan but in Grub.

#223 Installation » ASCII on RPi1 fails to boot » 2019-08-07 20:30:13

Dutch_Master
Replies: 2

Right, way back I bought some original Raspberry Pi's. Regrettably the project I'd intended them for failed to materialize, so they're shelved. Recently, I decided to re-purpose at least one of them, so I grabbed the latest Raspbian image, loaded it onto an SD card, inserted the card in the slot, powered the thing up and presto, everything worked as expected. Including the cr@p that is systemd and makes the RPi1 so painfully sssllloooowwww sad

So I looked for and found the Devuan RPi images (plural, yes) and loaded the appropriate one onto the same SD card, put it back into the same RPi1 and... Nothing. Not an inkling of life in the system, only a red led indicating power is present. This is the 6-6-2018 image in the embedded section.

Anyone to provide me a systemd-free Devuan image* for the RPi1 please? TIA!

*I don't mind if it's based on Beowulf or Ascii, as long as it's stable! And it'd be totally perfect if it's running OpenRC as init system, but that might be a bit too much to ask. wink

#224 Re: DIY » Without Devuan , With Debian » 2019-08-07 17:29:59

If you need to ask how to break it, stick to the provided stable release, Kali in your case. Your question indicates you lack the knowledge to fix things when (not if!) they go belly-up roll

Note this is a Devuan support forum, not Kali (who have their own support channels).

#225 Re: Off-topic » Please suggest a completely open source ARM board with Cortex A53/A7 » 2019-07-18 15:49:41

In the spirit of OSS: you're free to take my idea and run with it big_smile

As a matter of fact, I have been thinking about this earlier (hence the suggestion) but for the new 5G mobile phone network, given the controversy around a certain (and very large!) Asian supplier. But I simply don't have the time, nor inclination, to pursue this idea, also lacking knowledge about 5G standards and design spec's is a hindrance here. Then again, a lack of knowledge can be fixed and time can be made if things get urgent enough wink

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