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#2201 Re: Installation » Install fail2ban on ascii [SOLVED] » 2019-01-03 18:08:13
Hi,
the package python3-systemd is only for the backend systemd, it is possible to use other backend (see backend comment on /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf)
the package seems to be ok on Devuan.
Alberto
Yes, I saw python3-systemd was not on the banned pkg list. I have asked KatolaZ whether it should be. Will post when he responds.
#2202 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can someone explain... » 2019-01-03 17:10:09
The debs I built on Ubuntu 18.04 are not happy on Devuan. Thanks again!!
Why would you think they would be? It is a _very bad idea_ to use Debian-related packages from other sources on Devuan.
#2203 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-31 18:34:08
On the OP, I'd probably be around here more often if it wasn't for the disturbing level of tinfoil hat insanity that goes on. Some people really need to get a grip.
Huh? There is much less tinfoil fantasy here than on most other forums. It is mostly high level technical discussions and problem solving. Maybe if you were around more often you'd know that. 
#2204 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-31 17:21:05
Perhaps someone will step up to do that.
#2205 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-31 01:23:25
As far as I know there is no dependency on pulseaudio with quantum. I am running it on OpenBSD and I have no pulseaudio installed - and no alsa in fact.
It looks like it might only be on Linux systems
#2206 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-30 18:19:00
My understanding is that it just fools FF into thinking pulseaudio is there. It has been discussed off and on for the last several years on the DNG mail list and this very forum so a little search fu might give you some ideas. I'm still on jessie so no need to go there yet. Good luck and let us know how it works for you.
#2207 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-29 21:50:59
So it seems the libpulse0 is whats really dependent.
That is true even in jessie. It is similar to libsystemd0 that it really doesn't do anything if pulseaudio is not installed but it is a cosmetic/mental annoyance.
If you decide to remove/disable pulse, a nice xfce panel volume control is volumeicon-alsa.
Thanks fo the suggestion.
#2208 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-29 19:46:49
OK. I booted my pretty vanilla beowulf and ran this:
# apt-cache rdepends pulseaudio
pulseaudio
Reverse Depends:
pulseaudio-equalizer
firefox-esr
xpra
xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
surf-display
speech-dispatcher
sdrangelove
scratch
python3-x2go
python-x2go
pulseaudio-utils
pulseaudio-module-zeroconf
pulseaudio-module-raop
pulseaudio-module-lirc
pulseaudio-module-jack
pulseaudio-module-gsettings
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
cairo-dock-impulse-plug-in
projectm-pulseaudio
plasma-pa
persepolis
pavucontrol-qt
pavucontrol
pamix
osspd-pulseaudio
mpg123
mpd
morse
minimodem
ltsp-server
ltsp-client-core
ltsp-client
lives
libpulse0
libcanberra-pulse
|kde-telepathy-call-ui
impressive-display
gqrx-sdr
gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-core
firefox-esr
education-ltsp-server
cinnamon-settings-daemonxfce4-pulseaudio-plugin and firefox-esr are the ones that will trip me up when I transition to beowulf as my daily driver.
#2209 Re: Other Issues » Click-Drag on desktop changed » 2018-12-29 17:47:14
Gremlins in the machine? LOL!
#2210 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-29 17:22:39
Not sure whether that's possible anymore. You try installing parts of xfce4 from scratch without the meta package and without recommends/suggests. If pulseaudio shows up in a package's list of dependencies, you can decide whether to install it or not. Disclaimer: My daily driver is still jessie.
#2211 Re: Installation » Xen and the art of VM » 2018-12-26 17:49:35
The installation process did not seem to follow the new (?) guide :-
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … stall.html
Maybe that guide was not from the live iso. Now I know how to do it, I may have a few more goes at installation, including the ncurses interface.
Geoff
That guide is for the classic Debian installer which most of our isos use. Only the -live isos use the refracta installer. We are currently working on a similar guide for the refractainstaller.
#2212 Re: Off-topic » Holiday thread/traditions » 2018-12-25 23:10:49
@yeti . . . WOW! Just saw your new sig. Made my day.
#2213 Re: Off-topic » Holiday thread/traditions » 2018-12-25 17:17:51
Holiday traditions are a form of social control and propaganda. All of them pretty much suck and disrupt the sameness of days. I ignore all of them. I do acknowledge the solstice and equinox - reminds me how small we are in the universe - and of course, the birth of Devuan. LOLOLOL!
#2214 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] wpa_supplicant doesn't log in to wifi on boot » 2018-12-24 20:11:47
Happy to hear you're making progress.
#2215 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] wpa_supplicant doesn't log in to wifi on boot » 2018-12-23 22:45:58
#2216 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2018-12-23 03:03:11
Goodbye Devuan and Debian! Hello Freebsd! I'm leaving linux land. It was nice to visit this forum.
Sorry to see you go. I hope it wasn't that one weird thread that chased you off. Wander back in any time. 
#2217 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2018-12-22 02:10:19
As a result of this thread some changes are being made to the Devuan website. A description of the available isos has been added to both https://beta.devuan.org/ and https://beta.devuan.org/get-devuan (the mirror/download page). And now there are visual guides (with screenshots) for both a classic install and a graphical install. These changes are now available on the beta site for review and comments.
https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentatio … evuan.html
https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentatio … ption.html
https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentatio … stall.html
https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentatio … ption.html
So why do they they look different than the rest of the site? Well, an earlier version of these pages was prepared last spring for inclusion in the ASCII isos that use the debian-installer and it was easier to keep them in that format.
There is still more to come with the addition of similar walk-throughs for the refractainstaller GUI and cli.
#2218 Re: Devuan » RFC: Boobian » 2018-12-22 01:34:30
@cynwulf . . . I know 'tis the season to be grumpy but can you please take it down a notch? None of us here are happy about the direction Debian is going. But let's just move on and do something constructive. Maybe you would if you even used Debian or Devuan these days . . .
@Will W. . . . As I indicated in my previous post . . . if packages that you use are removed in Debian, feel free to build and maintain them for Devuan. If no one steps up to do that, you're on your own to get them however you want. Just don't bitch about it here expecting someone else to do it for you.
#2219 Re: Other Issues » Problems to install and run Unetbootin » 2018-12-21 19:22:04
Here you go again. Devuan is not compatible with Ubuntu/Mint packages.
#2220 Re: Other Issues » mintstick_1.3.9_all.deb, problem to formate usb. » 2018-12-21 19:19:17
i was trying many options and not one works ... means i was not even able to install one of those ... this was the only one that i was able to install ... but ... now, i don't remember -- for your question i think that it was probably installed from some place at linuxmint.
That's a sure way to a Frankendevuan! Please read: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
How can i get mintstick for Devuan?.
A better question is why you think you need "mintstick". Can't you just use the dd command? If you want more features take a look at fsmithred's refracta2usb.
#2221 Re: Other Issues » mintstick_1.3.9_all.deb, problem to formate usb. » 2018-12-21 18:18:11
Result from a search at pkginfo.devuan.org:
0 results for "mintstick.py" in any (in 15.372464ms)
So where exactly did you get this deb?
#2222 Re: Devuan » RFC: Boobian » 2018-12-21 04:20:37
And also, the most important question (from which I should probably start): if WebOOB package be still shipped by Devuan?
Sure, if someone steps up to maintain it long-term after it gets removed from Debian.
#2223 Re: Devuan » RFC: Boobian » 2018-12-21 03:17:40
Sorry, I wasn't aware of a discussion going on IRC, are there any outcomes of this discussion or is it still going on some channel?
It was just a link dropped on #debianfork. Almost no discussion.
Did you join this forum just to try to stir things up? Seems a little odd for a first entrance.
#2224 Re: Devuan » RFC: Boobian » 2018-12-21 02:47:05
A link about that was posted on IRC. I actually saw the "boobian" thing at that link. You can't fix stupid.
#2225 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE 1.20 on devuan ascii » 2018-12-20 17:56:14
Have you read the Release Notes? Especially the section on session management. You also mentioned a "mintmenu". Where did you get that? Mint/Ubuntu pkgs should not be used in Devuan. Try a dialog native to Devuan.
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