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#2101 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-09-20 14:54:28
Ah, good to know, thanks! 
EDIT: so I take it that you don't know how to package then? This is a good guide: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debmake-doc/
And also:
sudo cp -r obmenu-generator/schema.pl ~/.config/obmenu-generator
Why recursively copy a single file to $HOME as root? That makes no sense at all 
EDIT2: and why install the build-essential package? It doesn't supply anything that's needed for your suggestion.
It's almost as if you don't know what you're talking about...
#2102 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-20 14:53:01
It should be my responsibility how to deal with my posts.
These boards are a community resource so users should not be allowed to vandalise the posts even if they wrote them.
We had a similar situation over at forums.debian.net after I managed to piss off another user with my (in)famous interpersonal skills to such a degree that they started blanking their old posts (of which there were thousands, many of them very useful) and we had to ban them to stop it.
#2103 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-09-20 14:45:36
Or you could do this...
Well yes but packaging stuff up properly is much better, would you not agree?
https://xkcd.com/1987/ applies equally well to cpanm as it does to pip.
Anyway, I've upgraded the obmenu-generator package in my repository to v0.88:
#2104 Re: Other Issues » how to activate root gui at logon screen + problem with root password » 2020-09-20 11:49:24
i tried sudo -i in mate terminal and entered my password (not root's pw). then i received this message:
omar is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
See https://wiki.debian.org/sudo
Can you login as root at the console (TTY)?
How do i achieve this virtualbox?
Once you have configured sudo use
sudo chvt 3#2105 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2020-09-19 22:41:22
Check the Debian packages link in trizen's installation guide: https://github.com/trizen/obmenu-genera … INSTALL.md
I have them built in a Debian buster container but they should be 100% compatible with Devuan beowulf. It's probably best to add the repository (and key) because the obmenu-generator .deb also needs my perl-linux-desktopfiles package to work correctly without having to install the perl stuff manually with cpanm.
If you don't want to add my repositories then install the perl-linux-desktopfiles .deb first:
https://download.opensuse.org/repositor … -1_all.deb
Then install the obmenu-generator .deb package:
https://download.opensuse.org/repositor … -3_all.deb
I'll update the packages to the latest version tomorrow and bump the thread when they're ready.
#2106 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf Mate - no sound [solved] » 2020-09-19 16:48:23
Read the "Pulseaudio" section in the release notes.
#2107 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf Mate - no sound [solved] » 2020-09-19 16:36:12
Have you read the Devuan beowulf release notes or searched these boards? This is a common problem.
#2108 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Kodi help » 2020-09-19 07:52:24
Those package aren't available in the official repositories (AFAICT). The deb-multimedia repositories have them but we've had lots of problem threads over at forums.debian.net about dependency hell caused by those repositories so perhaps just install the .debs individually instead of adding the repositories.
https://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/mai … _amd64.deb
https://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/mai … _amd64.deb
EDIT: or add the deb-multimedia repositories then pin them to 100 (the same as backports) to prevent inadvertent upgrades.
#2109 Re: Other Issues » how to activate root gui at logon screen + problem with root password » 2020-09-19 07:44:51
when i go into "mate terminal" and enter "su" and "su -", and then i enter the root password, the root password doesn't work either. it displays "authentication failure". am i doing something wrong?
Can you login as root at the console (TTY)? Are you sure the keyboard is configured correctly so as to account for any special characters in the root password?
I'm not helping you log into the graphical desktop as root because that's a stupid thing to do 
And why have you not tried the current stable release? ASCII is now Devuan oldstable.
#2110 Re: Other Issues » Can't update the chimaera-security repo » 2020-09-19 07:31:13
I changed it to Beowulf security after I made this post, so I could update, would it be wise to keep it as such?
None of your packages will be updated from the beowulf security repositories because the versions in there will be older.
#2111 Re: Other Issues » Can't update the chimaera-security repo » 2020-09-18 22:09:35
Note that chimaera is subject to a mandatory transition delay from ceres and so may be left vulnerable for a while[0] and any security updates for ceres depend on the package maintainers noticing them rather than the Security Team taking care of them[1].
To quote the Debian Security FAQ:
If you want to have a secure (and stable) server you are strongly encouraged to stay with stable.
#2112 Re: Installation » Devuan testing minimal install pulseaudio muted at login » 2020-09-14 18:39:17
Was PulseAudio unmuted at boot under beowulf? Things break sometimes in the development branches, hence the name "testing".
#2113 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » HP DV6 no headphone audio » 2020-09-14 18:36:03
Plug the headphones in and post the output of
pacmd list-sinksAlso check the dmesg output after plugging them in to see what the kernel is doing.
#2114 Re: Installation » openbox menu issue » 2020-09-14 18:26:08
What am I missing?
The pluma package doesn't supply a polkit rule so you'll have to roll your own, see /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.gnome.gparted.policy for an example of this.
Another alternative would be Command: x-terminal-emulator -e sudoedit %f and then add this line to ~/.config/openbox/environment:
export SUDO_EDITOR=plumaThat would open a terminal so that you could enter the user's password and then pluma would be run under sudoedit(8) which opens the GUI under the normal user and only invokes root privileges to actually save the file. This solution needs the sudo package but it is the best way (IMO).
#2115 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Average Uptime of Your Devuan Systems? » 2020-09-13 17:30:00
Uptime records mean outdated kernels.
Uptodate kernels mean ™frequently™ interrupted services.
#2116 Re: ARM Builds » mnt reform support? » 2020-09-13 11:36:37
Other project, that is not ARM based, but Instead PowerPC based is the www.powerpc-notebook.org
PowerPC (PPC64?) is old and slow and doesn't really compare with the current 7nm x86_64 AMD processors.
The RISC-V laptop from Balthazar looks interesting but all RISC-V implementations are focused on power efficiency rather than performance so the same would apply to those.
POWER9 (pp64el) and perhaps POWER10 both compete on performance, if not price, and Raptor offer fully free (as in speech) desktops: https://www.raptorcs.com/content/BK1B01/intro.html
But with a TDP in excess of 90W (!) I don't think we'll see any laptops based on that ISA...
#2117 Re: Installation » openbox menu issue » 2020-09-13 10:05:03
Command: gksu -l pluma %f and Command: gksu thunar %f in 'Edit' -> 'Configure custom actions ...'
A better solution for the editor might be to use gedit with the GVFS admin:// backend (gedit admin://%f), which can also be used with thunar in the latest (4.14) version (thunar admin://%f, not available for the beowulf package though).
Would it be better to run lxpolkit instead of gnome-polkit?
Meh. Perhaps use ps_mem to see which one uses less memory but I really don't think it's critical.
#2118 Re: Installation » openbox menu issue » 2020-09-12 22:39:02
groucho@devuan3:~$ /usr/sbin/gparted localuser:root being added to access control list Error executing command as another user: No authentication agent found. localuser:root being removed from access control list groucho@devuan3:~$
So is the policykit-1 package installed?
[ ] PolicyKit Authentication Agent File: /etc/xdg/autostart/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop Executes: /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 * Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (XFCE, Unity, X-Cinnamon)
That OnlyShowIn bit indicates that the program will only be autostarted for the listed desktops so you need to add this line to ~/.config/openbox/autostart:
/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &Both the policykit-1 package and a graphical authentication agent need to be running for a graphical password prompt to be presented.
Polkit is the modern way to run graphical applications with elevated privileges and minimises the security risks in comparison to su &sudo or gksu & gksudo (the latter two have been removed from beowulf because of the inherent risks).
It is possible to get gparted running with su but I'm not telling you how
#2119 Re: Installation » openbox menu issue » 2020-09-12 21:42:17
obmenu -> /usr/sbin/gparted in the 'Execute' box does not work.
Works for me. Do you see any error messages if you run /usr/sbin/gparted directly in a terminal?
Can we see
grep -A2 gparted ~/.config/openbox/menu.xmlLooking around I found /etc/xdg/autostart/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1.desktop and the the executable is there.
But it's not being run:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/openbox-xdg-autostart --list
pgrep -a polkit#2120 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf crashes often » 2020-09-12 17:32:17
it seems that Beowulf on my computer is crashing often
Have you installed the CPU µcode package?
#2121 Re: Installation » openbox menu issue » 2020-09-12 17:20:05
For gparted just run the wrapper script at /usr/sbin/gparted directly from the menu entry.
For synaptic run the /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec wrapper script from the menu entry and also install a graphical polkit authentication agent such as mate-polkit and then add this line to ~/.config/openbox/autostart:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1 &*Do not* use su or sudo to launch graphical applications with elevated permissions, it is stupid and dangerous.
#2122 Re: Installation » Migration ascii -> beowulf. Mate Shut Down disappeared » 2020-09-11 17:50:32
now the shutdown function is back
Fantastic, please prepend [SOLVED] to the thread title to help others who may encounter this issue.
#2123 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [Solved] Mesa update for Cinnamon in Beowulf » 2020-09-11 17:47:48
tried the update
Oh dear, I should have worded my warning more strongly...
Check your libc6 version:
apt policy libc6If it's from ceres then you need to restore your system from the backup you made before adding the testing/unstable sources.
The glibc libraries are used in pretty much every program on your system and if any new vulnerabilities are discovered and fixed then your system will remain wide open because it will see the fixed version as older than the ceres package.
#2124 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Jenkins keep failing on building iwd 1.9-1+devuan1 » 2020-09-11 17:44:15
Can someone try to build the current suites/unstable of https://git.devuan.org/devuan/iwd/ and see if it fails as well?
Also fails for me with a fresh ceres chroot (same error).
try a debuild -us -uc -nc
^ The build succeeds with those options applied.
FWIW the Debian sid source succeeds with a plain debuild -us -uc in my Debian buster box.
#2125 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Wireshark upgrade requires libsystemd0 » 2020-09-10 14:35:42
https://github.com/elogind/elogind/issues/170
EDIT: so use equivs to create a fake package providing a newer version of libsystemd0 to satisfy the dependency until the new version of elogind is pushed.
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