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#2026 Re: Off-topic » Mate and Trinity » 2019-07-19 06:45:06
In our case it's because no one has volunteered to package and maintain it. Last year I had a discussion with the Trinity folks about doing just that but in the end, no one stepped up to do the work.
#2027 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2019-07-18 18:33:05
There is another distro? LOLOL!
(Couldn't resist)
#2028 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-07-16 20:40:00
That would be the second lock on this thread. Let's see if Devuan users can get it together to stay on topic and not wander off into flights of fancy (that might be very real to them). Anyway . . . it IS in OT. Time will tell . . .
#2029 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Running refractasnapshot on "classical" installed systems » 2019-07-13 07:12:11
Something is definitely going on with refractasnapshot and compression/decompression. I don't begin to understand it but here's a report of a similar failure. fsmithred will figure it out eventually.
#2030 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Grub "savedefault" not working » 2019-07-13 01:05:29
I suspect the question is probably "what is different between mint and devuan".
#2031 Re: Installation » Xfce: TraditionalOK from mate-themes should be blue, but it's black » 2019-07-12 21:33:46
Are you talking about the titlebar? You need to select TraditionalOk in the Window Manager settings in addition to choosing the theme.
#2032 Re: News & Announcements » We're now 800 strong here! » 2019-07-09 23:44:15
If any one has any interest in Developer, security, Linux-Image (GNU kernel) and web design customized Devuan respins, please ping me and I'll share my package lists.
Welcome! Nice that you finally decided to take a leap and say hi. How about sharing some of your Devuan-related work here or here. Or perhaps applying some of your talents towards improving Devuan at the source.
#2033 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » (Reportbug Error) AudioDriver / SPDIF crackling with Firefox on Ascii » 2019-07-09 08:28:44
I always use direct email method to report bugs not reportbug which can do weird things.
#2034 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » PulseAudio? Seriously!? » 2019-07-06 18:08:04
dxrobertson wrote:I think the --installed option shows only whats actually installed-
Thanks.
I also ran this command for libpulse0 and it shows that of the apps I have installed, that simple screen recorder, mpv, mplayer, and mate-settings-daemon (among others) depend upon it. Looking at the description for libpulse0 in Synaptic it says it is PulseAudio client libraries. Why would these apps depend on libpulse0 especially since a lot of people on Linux don't use Pulseaudio? I find that disturbing, even though I don't fully know why.
It's part of a "lock-in" on the way to a one-size-fits-all OS that will be nothing like what we have known and loved. Modularity will be a thing of the past. At least they'll try to do that. Resistance is not futile. There is always a way around the mousetrap. 
#2035 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » PulseAudio? Seriously!? » 2019-07-04 19:32:23
Anyway, i am still using FF52.9 ESR because some extensions i rely on are no more compatible with the newer versions of FF.
I was also on 52.9 ESR until a few days ago when I finally upgraded. It is a bit of a clusterf**k and several days later I'm still trying to get it back close to where it was. It's now in a somewhat acceptable state. But since I use it for very few things anymore, it's not a biggie.
#2036 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Installing VirtualBox in Devuan ASCII » 2019-07-04 18:45:20
You can also add VB to your sources.list:
deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/ <release name> contrib non-free #2037 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan for ARM 64 on Raspberry Pi 4B? » 2019-07-04 08:41:15
@bobmon . . . you might want to drop into #devuan-arm on freenode. parazyd does not frequent this forum.
#2038 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » PulseAudio? Seriously!? » 2019-07-04 08:37:00
I understand you can get around that dependency with apulse. Search this forum amd DNG archives for discussion. I need sleep or would do it myself.
#2039 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-07-02 20:48:47
This response from riseup:
It wont be possible to decontaminate snapd, but we are producing a debian package, and it does work.
So if you're using Devuan, their VPN isn't going to work for you.
#2040 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-07-02 17:39:49
The lemmings will do what they will. Swim upstream. The trend is not alarming. It is predictable.
#2041 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-07-02 16:01:18
Well, it was educational. The banking system is all smoke and mirrors or house of cards . . . pick your metaphor . . . Jaromil's objection iiuc is that this crypto would be tied to individuals through their FB accounts (not anonymous) so detailed profiles of very personal preferences and habits can be assembled that could be used to further commodify personal data.
#2042 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie » 2019-07-02 15:16:30
Do it now if you're going to do it. You have about a week before jessie is retired. I heard that july 6 is the projected date.
I was in a bit of a panic over this date but then found this nugget in a post on FDN:
Jessie support is now handled by the LTS team rather than Security team. You should be OK until June 30, 2020.
Evidently June 6 is not a hard cutoff date for jessie so we have a little breathing room.
#2043 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-07-01 21:07:42
This is true but OT for this thread which is about the surveillance potential of zuck bucks,. Please restrain yourself HoaS and try to keep on topic.
#2044 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie » 2019-07-01 15:57:57
One Problem i noted with XFCE on Jessie is Problem with multimonitor as XFCE would not allow easily to extend the monitor onto two Monitors.
Experiment with xrandr and/or lxrandr. That should get things set up for you.
Has this issue been solved? What About switching to KDE?
KDE is available as an option - if you like bling and bloat.
Could i then from Jessie go straight to Beowulf or would i Need to upgrade to Ascii first?
Absolutely not. You need to go through ascii to get to beowulf.
#2045 Re: Installation » Upgrade from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie » 2019-06-30 18:48:05
Hello ,
i am currently running Debian Wheezy and am wondering if there is an upgrade path for me to switch to Devuan Jessie.
The current Desktop Environment is Gnome3 and i have Radeon Fglrx Driver installed (which i would deinstall prior due to suggested non-compatibility with Jessie).
Yes, there is! You'll find documentation here. I'm not 100% sure if you can go directly from Wheezy or need to upgrade to Debian Jessie first. Gnome is a no-go so the suggestion is to switch to Xfce before the upgrade. Devuan has the same firmware available as Debian.
Note that in sources.list, jessie-updates is no longer in use for old-stable so would throw errors.
#2046 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-30 14:49:42
Besides, if VPN service require custom proprietary VPN client it's a spyware.
Do you know anything about riseup.net? I suggest you learn more about them. From their homepage:
Riseup provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. We are a project to create democratic alternatives and practice self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications.
#2047 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-06-28 19:04:24
Reopening this thread to see if it can stay on-topic and away from the irrelevancies of political ideology.
#2048 Re: Off-topic » Boom Times or financial apocalypse » 2019-06-27 18:42:56
Going to close this as it is never going to be useful for anything. Political opinions never are . . .
#2049 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-27 02:51:46
There is also a post about this from last month on riseup.net and this was the reply:
Crossbill replied... 2019-05-08
Hello,
We are working on a debian package of riseup-vpn, its getting close to being done. I suspect that this could be installed and used without systemd.
crossbill
I have requested a notification if this package ever gets finished.
#2050 Re: Installation » How do I install a package that requires snapd? » 2019-06-27 01:00:58
Hi penguin and welcome to devuan. I got that email from riseup.net today also. Unfortunately snapd is on devuan's banned package list. So unless someone removes that dependency and repackages there is no way to install without systemd. And that may not even be possible.
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