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#177 Re: Off-topic » Hospitals and the irc#devuan » 2025-05-30 13:20:45

Well, doesn't it actually depend on what one think of as "devuan"?

I think one should have a broad interpretation that aims to include everyone who think of themselves as a Devuan person. "Devuan Infrastructure" would include any and all means such a person would use for acting as Devuan person; in particular it then does include IRC groups at libera.chat even though the underlying networking and server equipment for that has a broader context than just for Devuan. (golinux likely meant only that the people providing libera.chat do so independently from any Devuan discussion group)

So in my mind, "Devuan infrastructure" would also include all mirroring of packages and ISOs and DNS service as well as the "health checking" of that, in addition to the git store and the build system and other services that explicitly are maintained in the name of Devuan.

The "central" part, i.e., the equipment paid by the registered devuan organisation, currently comprises three bare-metal hosts in Europe that together hold 28 virtual hosts with different service roles. Some of those are "inwards facing", such as package, ISO and docker image building (not to forget "amprolla", which prepares the repository indexes for the Devuan repositories) as well as the git store, bug tracking and more. A few services are for organisational purposes, such as email and backup, and some other are "outwards facing", such as web, forum, wiki and mailing list(s).

#178 Re: DIY » Does anyone here use Mintstick for making livUSB's? Need testers. » 2025-05-30 00:21:54

I don't understand what you talk about.

Any choice between using UEFI bios and legacy bios is a choice on and for the target system, because it's the target system that decides how it boots, and at best a choice for the person installing.

An installer ISO image may be prepared to support either or both means of booting.

The installer software, when executed, may offer setup for either one or both means of booting into the installed system. One of the primary differences is then the requirements that the means of booting has on the target system's disk partitioning and filesystem choices. That is in the hands of the person installing.

#179 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Proposed Updates repository problem. » 2025-05-30 00:00:20

You should use the devuan-proposed-updates repository, and the soures.list line for that is

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main contrib non-free non-free-.firmware

Pay special attention to the /merged URI which is what all devuan repositories have because devuan provides a merge of debian packages with an overlay of certain forked packages.

You tried to use the URI /devuan and that didn't work because that is wrong.

EDIT: you may omit some sections, like e.g. non-free but should at least include main.

#180 Re: Off-topic » Does anyone watch Bryan Lunduke? » 2025-05-27 09:12:37

I choose to close this thread here on my determination that continuing it is too off-topic even for the off-topic section of this forum.

#181 Re: DIY » Does anyone here use Mintstick for making livUSB's? Need testers. » 2025-05-26 23:10:33

To be a bit security minded, the script would rather isolate the one or two command(s) that actually require root, and make due wrapping for them, instead of "user transition wrapping" let root run X (display) programs.

And in a normal linux OS there is good use of the disk group, which would be a sufficient permission for running those disk device manipulation commands. (Possibly this has got lost since there are so many M$ heads putting their fingers into linux s/w nowadays; does your udev rules assign group permission for removable devices?)

I.e., to become root is just a "lazy convenience" in this case; easy to do, easy to talk about but sacrificing on security. (Though umount will require root). I do it all the time myself smile

Also, @greenjeans, (and for the benefit of the grandkids) the blkid verification does not in any way verify the result of the partition formating (by mkfs.vfat), but rather the result of sfdisk, i.e., that the partition table declares a vfat partition. You may use fsck for that although it'd typically be sufficient to accept the successful run of mkfs.vfat as evidence that formatting went well.

#182 Re: DIY » Does anyone here use Mintstick for making livUSB's? Need testers. » 2025-05-26 13:21:13

You may need to make "root" have access and permissions to use "non-root"'s X display.
E.g use pgrep -a Xorg to learn the pathname for the authority file, (might be /var/lib/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-tznMUP or something else, say, /AAA). Then run with

XAUTHORITY=/AAA DISPLAY=:0 ./fatstick.sh

#183 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » 2025-05-20 22:39:51

Commodification of software takes many forms and "appimages" is one of them.
Who cares?

#184 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » 2025-05-19 23:46:17

Install the deb. This is done with the three normal steps:

  1. Use wget or curl
    to download their https://repo.librewolf.net/keyring.gpg
    to be your file /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/repo.librewolf.net.gpg

  2. Add the line deb http://repo.librewolf.net librewolf main
    to your /etc/apt/sources.list.

  3. Then run apt-get update
    and apt-get install librewolf

(though that might not be pointy-ckicky enough to suit everyone)

Note: All steps are to be done as root.

The package installs a librewolf.desktop file that typically makes up an entry in the "Applications" graphical menu system, in addition to installing a librewolf binary that typically is available for execution as commandline command.

#185 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Compressor lz4 not available » 2025-05-16 23:33:51

Maybe having lz4 in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules (and an update-initramfs run) would work?
What's lz_4 ?

#186 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] USB with *.iso image not detected in BIOS boot netbook » 2025-05-12 23:08:43

Hmm my downloaded devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso gets this fdisk report:'

Disk devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso: 1.29 GiB, 1385709568 bytes, 2706464 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x6bae8a95

Device                                       Boot Start     End Sectors  Size Id Type
devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso1 *       64 2706463 2706400  1.3G 17 Hidd

Seems like something is off with your iso. I just downloaded mine, from devuan.ipacct.com (which is reasonably fast for me).

btw. the UEFI installers of chimaera and daedalus are two different technologies. chimaera has a grub installer and daedalus a syslinux installer. The grub installer has its kernel and initrd on a different partition. The syslinux installer has the kernel and initrd on the EFI/FAT partition. All that irrelevant to here, which wouldn't be an EFI boot.

#187 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] USB with *.iso image not detected in BIOS boot netbook » 2025-05-12 14:14:56

@altoid: did you dd with conv=fsync so that the program does not exit before data is actually written?

Next is to verify the USB by cmp $ISO $USB which should not find a difference until the end of the $ISO.

#189 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Chimaera 4.0 i386 Netboot Install Issue » 2025-05-11 12:48:09

Yes that's the kernel version of the tar.gz. And the running system (unpacked initrd) probably has /lib/modules/5.10.0-22-686 with 687 kernel modules, but the problem seems to be that the "Download installer components" step looks online for more modules for that kernel, which it won't find.

Thanks. Yes, it would be good if that netboot could be updated to align kernel versions.

There's no easy way to come forward while waiting. Basically you'll need the kernel from kernel-image-5.10.0-32-686-di to replace "linux" from the tar.gz, and then those 687 modules to pack into the initrd.gz. All that from
http://deb.devuan.org/merged main/debian-installer
(plus a depmod run)...

EDIT: actually you might get away with just unpacking kernel-image-5.10.0-32-686-pae-di_5.10.223-1_i386.udeb and nic-modules-5.10.0-32-686-pae-di_5.10.223-1_i386.udeb (or without pae) into a directory tree. Then move /boot/vmlinuz to be your debian-installer/i386/linux and copy in /lib/modules/5.10.0-32-686-pae into an unpacked initrd tree. chroot into that to run "depmod 5.10.0-32-686-pae" before packing it up again, to become your debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz. Doing only that makes it work for "standard" network devices. I can drop a detailed command sequence if you wish.

#190 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Chimaera 4.0 i386 Netboot Install Issue » 2025-05-11 11:17:47

Hmm. at the point of loading "components" could you use Alt-F2 to check which linux version (uname) is in play?

#191 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Chimaera 4.0 i386 Netboot Install Issue » 2025-05-11 10:29:10

(I guess you didn't pick up spelling of both chimaera and devuan smile

Yes there is the problem that netboot has packaged kernel 5.10.0-22-686 (Debian package version 5.10.178-3) while the current chimaera repository sports kernel 5.10.0-32-686 (Debian package version 5.10.223-1).

But the distributed kernel + initrd.gz pair up in that version.
Which kernel + initrd do you use?

#194 Re: Other Issues » OpenSSH fails to start with the latest update in Devuan 6 Excalibur » 2025-05-10 22:30:29

Same as what? In what way is this related to failure of starting OpenSSH?

It's bad form to wake an old thread with just an useless sentence and some copy-paste.

Start your own issue, and explain what you did, what you expected should happen and what happened.

#195 Re: DIY » Android SDK question » 2025-05-10 14:07:49

Isn't it supposed to come with the SDK ?

#196 Re: DIY » Android SDK question » 2025-05-10 13:41:52

If you know which package or packages ($PKG) are involved you can use the following to see which files they provide:

dpkg -L $PKG

You might also try to find it with:

find /opt /usr /var -name appcompat

#197 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] MBR and efi booting issue » 2025-05-09 12:31:50

Afaict, grub2 is too large to fit into the traditional 440 bytes of MBR and it does require a boot loader space of at least 1Mb prior to the first partition.
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manua … b.html#MBR

EDIT: There is however the issue of accessing an nvme drive which for grub requires a bios that implements the driver. This may mean that you must use the UEFI bios for booting with grub2, unless the legacy bios implements the nvme driver.

For UEFI boot, the boot loader is kept in a FAT filesystem, and the UEFI bios provides nvme driver support. grub2 documentation is not very clear about UEFI boot as it mixes it up with the notion of "secure boot", which is an optional function for UEFI boot. It also mingles it up with having a GUID Partiion Table (GPT) which is a different choice.

If you use UEFI boot, you install a different grub package, like grub-efi-amd64 and let it spin its magic.

#198 Re: Documentation » apt-mirror config for a local Devuan repo » 2025-05-06 23:00:10

Did you clean out all the old files before running that test? Because that file is a single index and your output shows processing of 7 index files. If you want to pursue that further you will need to make sure to output the problem filenames as well.

Perhaps you should clean out all the old stuff and set up the sources according to my instruction above. Don't include empty repositories. You may consider it all a bug that apt-mirror cannot deal with empty repositories. I don't.

EDIT:  I see that the experimental repo Source index doesn't have a "Files:" tag. If that is the reason apt-mirror takes issue with it, I agree that apt-mirror seems to  have a bug (being unable to deal with that repo format).  You may need exclude that repo (as well) from your mirroring.

#199 Re: Devuan » Devuan Excalibur on i386 - We need an official kernel! » 2025-05-06 05:10:24

Any serious attempt requires someone or a few to commit to put in the effort as well as maintain it into the future.

I think the best place to discuss seriously would be IRC #devuan-dev at libera.chat; perhaps set up a project at git.devuan.org to start with.

#200 Re: Documentation » apt-mirror config for a local Devuan repo » 2025-05-06 00:35:57

pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan experimental is the only repo to mirror.

pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan main contains the special devuan packages, i.e. forked and extras and those should be accessed via
pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged main rather, or
deb.devuan.org/merged main would really be better.

pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan contrib is empty, and
pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan non-free-firmware is empty.

It looks like apt-mirror doesn't like empty repositories. I wouldn't consider it a bug worth fixing, but you may of course lodge a bug report to debian about that if you think differently.

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