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#1851 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-12-07 19:12:34
We always knew it wanted to be the systemd OS.
#1852 Re: Off-topic » free software force and the free software definition » 2019-12-07 17:11:15
I have spent quite some time thinking about this and wanted to add a bit of discussion to the Free Software page of the website. I wanted to convey the concept that "free" software that limited users freedoms wasn't really free. Lack of modularity was a primary concern. Then I was reminded that there was the freedom to restore modularity so I've been letting a response around that argument simmer in the back of my mind. Perhaps between us we could come up with something.
Are you related to e e cummings? lol!
#1853 Re: Installation » Netboot, mini.iso files - ascii 2.1 » 2019-12-04 20:11:16
The mini.iso is for internal pre-release testing and not part of an official Devuan release. If you want to run beowulf, install ascii and upgrade. iirc there are some unofficial beowulf options at refracta.org. fsmithred should be able to clarify that.
#1854 Re: Installation » Hash Sun mismatch » 2019-12-01 07:29:48
Would I benefit from using the Country Code in the sources.list?
deb.devuan.org is recommended but you can also choose a mirror from the list of available mirrors that might suit you better.
#1855 Devuan » amprolla magic » 2019-12-01 01:00:26
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What is amprolla and what does it do . . . or not do? At the First Devuan Conference in April, Katolaz' presentation "The Quest for Minimalism" answered these questions. This audio of the amprolla section enhances understanding of the screenshots below.
#1856 Re: Installation » Hash Sun mismatch » 2019-11-29 20:32:32
Posting for clarity that in Devuan we advise not to use the Suite designations because doing so can cause unexpected "breakage". Here's why:
Codenames or suites?
The release codenames or suite designations in /etc/apt/sources.list indicate which release will be used when updating and upgrading packages. Note that the suite names stable and testing will refer to different releases over time.
As of this writing, stable refers to Devuan ASCII (Debian Stretch) and testing refers to Devuan Beowulf (Debian Buster). Once Beowulf is officially released, stable will refer to Beowulf and testing will refer to the next release in development, Chimaera (Debian Bullseye).
However, if your ASCII sources.list refers to the release codename ascii you will remain on ASCII until you change your sources.list. That means that you will have more control over when the upgrade happens. And if you are using beowulf in your sources.list you will move seamlessly to the new stable version of Beowulf when it is released.
To avoid the possibility of mixing two potentially incompatible repositories, Devuan recommends using release codenames in sources.list.
Source: https://devuan.org/os/releases
#1857 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-11-27 08:04:54
Good find!
I found this link more informative than reddit:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/31633933
#1858 Re: News & Announcements » ASCII 2.1 point release » 2019-11-27 04:39:45
Yes. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.
#1859 Re: Devuan » was the software of the https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ page search? » 2019-11-25 23:22:34
I think this is it:
#1860 Re: DIY » KISS: a new systemd-free distribution that aims to "keep it simple" » 2019-11-25 17:22:28
And abolishing source distributions would stop global warming within months!
bitcoins are the real energy hogs.
#1861 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » APT doesn't install from testing repository » 2019-11-24 17:56:54
If you use "testing" in your sources you will get Debian Bullseye and fubar your install. Always use the release name in your sources list. This is explained on the website. Look for "Codenames or suites?".
#1862 Re: Off-topic » Debian will vote about the init system again » 2019-11-20 20:54:22
Please continue discussion at this existing thread:
#1863 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » systemd » 2019-11-19 18:26:19
HoaS . . . see the link on my first post in this thread that was rejected by the OP.
#1864 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » systemd » 2019-11-19 18:15:09
The ones that are actually harmful and not just imagination are listed here:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
#1865 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » systemd » 2019-11-19 17:25:18
If they are also listed here, let us know:
#1866 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » systemd » 2019-11-19 15:48:01
#1867 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Configuring Liferea » 2019-11-19 03:39:08
Maybe I'm just doing something stupid . . . <<<< this
~/.config/liferea/liferea.css
Is the file that's needed to change colors etc.
#1868 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Configuring Liferea » 2019-11-19 03:00:18
I thought I'd have a look at #10: Custom CSS for Article Rendering and the link is dead:
Not Found
The requested URL /liferea/blog/Liferea+Trick+#10:+Custom+CSS+for+Article+Rendering was not found on this server.
Apache Server at lzone.de Port 80
#1869 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-11-18 20:02:21
So, what happens? Can someone resubmit the job, or does it just sit for days until something mysterious fixes it?
Fix has been in limbo for 2 months:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 02.en.html
Those involved just had a discussion on irc. Hopefully will move forward soon, possibly by the end of the week.
#1870 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2019-11-18 16:21:40
Unfortunately, this is a recurring problem that is out of Devuan's control to correct at the source. No matter how many times it happens, no one who is able to fix it seems to be interested it tracking down the glitch.
#1871 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-11-17 18:47:56
Ian jackson has posted a response:
#1872 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2019-11-14 16:38:51
With FF now depending on it, that is unlikely.
#1873 Re: Installation » Need help with "quiet" boot on ascii-686 pae » 2019-11-10 20:35:36
plymouth is a banned package in Devuan:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
#1874 Re: News & Announcements » DeVuan review in Full Circle Magazine » 2019-11-09 16:09:58
Why not reviewing a Devuan with Trinity desktop environment?
Because Devuan does not offer Trinity as an option. The possibility was discussed several years ago but went nowhere. The Devuan derivative http://exegnulinux.net uses Trinity.
#1875 Re: Installation » ascii 2.1 iso with openrc install doesnt work » 2019-11-06 17:11:04
With the 2.1 point release, openrc no longer requires an expert install. Even the graphical installer offers the option. Remember that openrc is still tied to sysvinit scripts:
This from https://dev1galaxy.org/search.php?actio … er_id=5727 titled "Solving Init Compatibility":
Openrc
Openrc is provided as an alternative service manager from the Devuan installer, which is already a step up from Debian. However, this is far from a replacement to sysvinit. In fact, it simply runs atop it. Sysvinit scripts are still used during initialization, and no openrc run scripts are provided as replacements for the various sysvinit scripts used in starting services. In recent versions of Openrc, it comes with its own init. This skips inittab and boots openrc directly, but since it still uses sysvinit scripts, it’s noticeably slower. Also, without providing getty scripts, the user won’t even reach the login prompt. Gentoo provides all the run scripts we could ever need, and so bringing them over is not an impossibility. Why bother using openrc run scripts and using openrc as an init and a service manager? The scripts are much easier to read, and process supervision would be handled much more cleanly. There’s also faster boot times and better overall performance, but your mileage may vary on those claims.
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