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#1601 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-21 20:42:12

There are backups but no revision software.  A forum is by nature ephemeral so there's not really a need for it IMO.  It is always possible to dig in the Internet Archive.

#1602 Re: Devuan » Looking for a new system » 2020-09-21 18:29:50

@doa379 . . . please gain some knowledge about devuan before you speak.  Or perhaps you like embarrassing yourself . . .

https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/

#1603 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-21 18:24:22

This forum, like debian's,  is a hybrid of problem solving, wiki-like documentation and social interactions.  It's been working quite well and I see no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater.   As I said before, we need to find the sweet spot between users having the option to improve/correct posts at the point where technical errors were made (not 10 posts later) while not having the ability to delete an entire thread which I assume deleting the first post would do.  Also . . .  as mentioned by Vernon, posters must have the ability to mark their issue as [SOLVED].

Here is a thread on the debian forum about their policy.

#1604 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-20 16:07:11

yeti wrote:

Disabling the login combined with a marker below the username that this user no longer is active and/or turning the username unclickable could be enough.

Yes.  Scrambling info in an account is a solution that is quite effective.

#1605 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-20 16:04:38

Vernon wrote:
Reasons to allow unlimited time for editing.
  • Posted issues take an indeterminate time to solve. By setting an edit time limit, you don't allow posters to change a topic subject to [solved]

  • I am a very poor typist and make many typos and grammatical errors which I may not notice until days later when reviewing my posts. And yes, I do like to go back and review my posts and admire them smile

  • I may discover additional  issues that I should have discussed originally in a HOWTO days later or weeks later. Edit timeouts could prevent me for updating the HOWTO

Excellent points.  +1

#1606 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-20 15:33:13

yeti wrote:

And while we're at it: Where is the delete-my-account function hidden?

It is not possible to delete an account if you have posted.  Users with 0 posts can be removed at their request. A user who recently deleted all their posts (about 30) is what started the quest to find a better solution that would not break threads.  There are still quoted references to this user that now have no antecedent.

#1607 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-20 01:01:02

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

The timeout is a day, or 86400 seconds, since the creation of the post.

'edit' and 'delete' are treated the same based on my reasoning that editing lets you remove all content, and a blank post is basically the same as a deleted post.

IMO, that time is too short.

People edit for many reasons, not just to delete.   I have sometimes edited content days, weeks, even years after posting.  There should be a more conservative time limit for deleting the first post of a thread.  That should only be allowed if there have been no responses.  My .02 . . .

#1608 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-19 23:31:06

I can still edit my posts on the debian forum even from 2015 but there's no longer a delete option.  It is possible to have different timeouts for those 2 functions.  We need to find the sweet spot for each of the options.

#1609 Re: Forum Feedback » Unable to edit any of my own posts » 2020-09-19 19:59:14

Ralph has been tweaking the timeout limits on editing and deleting posts because there was a user who recently deleted all of their posts.  Please suggest time limits for consideration.

#1610 Re: Off-topic » Vivaldi: Best performing browser on Chromebook style laptop » 2020-09-18 00:36:38

Vivaldi handles jitsi better than chromium does!   Of course, that's still on jessie 32 bit.  LOL!!  FF has never been able to handle it.  Chrome did till recently then suddenly wouldn't work.  I don't care much for the layout or look (too shiny) and the community was not to my liking either.  jitsi is the only thing I'm using it for.

#1611 Re: Installation » SOLVED:Beowulf MATE: visudo path, strange logoff, hideous login screen » 2020-09-16 17:36:05

PedroReina wrote:
golinux wrote:

Seems no one reads the Release Notes anymore

Please, don't think so. A lot of people do read this and much more. Keep up!

Unfortunately, those of us on help-desk just see the ones who don't.  A few every day on average.

#1613 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] ALSA (no pulseaudio) - sound card order changes on boot » 2020-09-15 22:06:50

If the fix in the Release Notes doesn't work, you might try an .asoundrc configuration.

#1614 Re: Installation » SOLVED:Beowulf MATE: visudo path, strange logoff, hideous login screen » 2020-09-15 22:03:15

Seems no one reads the Release Notes anymore or is aware of the content of the Old English epic poem Beowulf.  It was a bloody mess.  But I guess the mind just relates to what it knows best . . .

#1616 Re: Installation » Upgrading from Ascii to Beowulf » 2020-09-06 21:12:06

@Altoid . . . perhaps you could adopt, adapt and maintain SLiM for devuan . . . or even upstream . . .

#1617 Re: Other Issues » Delete a file with corrupted attributes » 2020-09-05 20:17:30

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
golinux wrote:

Good grief, you had help from Bruce Perens? What a legend...

Yeah, he's been around the campfire since the beginning and pops in on occasion.   I have had some off-list as well as official contact with him over the years . . .

#1618 Re: Other Issues » Delete a file with corrupted attributes » 2020-09-05 17:37:04

I am currently dealing with a misbehaving external harddrive that would not mount because of this error:

Error when trying to mount:
Failed to open directory "cstwo".
Error when getting information for file '/media/xxxxxx/cstwo/600':
Input/output error.

There is currently a long thread on DNG about what I have done to get it back in shape short of the nuclear option.

Start by running SMART to get some general info about the state of your drive.

In the end an fsck fixed things for me.

#1620 Re: Forum Feedback » Best place to post a howto_? » 2020-08-31 04:53:38

Welcome! This would be a good place to post your How-To:

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewforum.php?id=7

I'm pretty sure you will be able to edit your posts.

#1621 Re: Devuan » eudev » 2020-08-29 16:30:50

OT but relevant . . . doesn't your browser have a spellcheck?

#1622 Re: Other Issues » Uploading file to email server - size vs. outgoing total discrepancy. » 2020-08-18 19:33:37

From the Pegasus Mail and Linux Open Source page

The other major issue with Pegasus Mail is that it uses a proprietary third-party product as its core editor, and I would not be able to take that product with me into an Open Source environment. The same problems do not exist with Mercury, because I have written every line of the package myself, but with Pegasus Mail, the problem is significant.

No way of knowing what that proprietary core of Pegasus is doing.  Also perhaps some wine overhead?

Stat alert . . . my 2000th post!

#1623 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Cannot install VLC » 2020-08-17 01:30:57

You shouldn't need to download any packages directly from Debian.  The "merged" designation in the devuan source line takes care of fetching packages directly from Debian.

#1624 Re: News & Announcements » Latest repositories for Devuan 3 ! » 2020-08-16 03:27:11

brday wrote:

Interesting about backports, how to proceed, which is the link or the guide to get more recent versions?

You can find that information exactly where you might expect it to be - the devuan.org website.

brday wrote:

and it would also be good to try the full "trial" version, called a chimaera.

To get to chimaera you'll have to install beowulf and upgrade.  Note that it is recommended to use the release name not the suite designation in your sources.list.

sgage wrote:

You seem to be missing the point of Devuan, which is to be a systemd-free fork of Debian, and which it accomplishes quite nicely.

And as with Debian, the goal is STABILITY not the latest shiny, shiny.

brday wrote:

I don't like systemd, either but the hardware desktop of Linux Mint in Xfce automatically detects the devices when you plug for to the  ports,

Debian/Devuan are NOT Mint or Ubuntu.

#1625 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta 10 issues with » 2020-08-13 04:36:42

@ofvergara . . .

The refracta website:
https://refracta.org/

Download iso images. refracta 9 is available:
https://get.refracta.org/

You can read about creating a persistent partition on usb here:
https://refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt

That should get you started.

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