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#126 Re: Freedom Hacks » DXD waves and flacs (and dsf files) with OSS4 and ALSA » 2024-07-09 09:48:30
Perhaps, you are missing the point. iMic USB sound card, or a similar one, can be used for video conferencing or playing videos in youtube, if fftrate plugin and apulse are installed, and PulseAudio and PipeWire are removed. This might be a practical solution for notebooks.
Intel HDA codecs (32bit 192kHz) can be used with OSS4 for playing HiRes audio files in "exclusive mode". Although, of course, Intel HDA codecs can also be used with ALSA, if you cannot compile OSS4.
However, if you suffer from hearing loss caused by PulseAudio, you may need an amplifier.
If you want to explain us how to play DXD and DSF audio files on Devuan with the highest possible sound quality, you may start a new topic.
#127 Freedom Hacks » DXD waves and flacs (and dsf files) with OSS4 and ALSA » 2024-07-08 21:34:34
- igorzwx
- Replies: 8
Free DXD samples are available here:
What We Hear With DXD 32-bit Files (Free Sample Downloads)
_https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/music-reviews/what-we-hear-with-dxd-32-bit-files/
If you do not know how to play DXD waves and flacs (and dsf files) on Devuan, it may mean, perhaps, that your freedom is somehow restricted by your knowledge. They can be easily played with Audacious through the help of the fftrate resampler.
The DXD samples were provided as a sort of "material artefacts" for a theological discussion about 32bit format:
if PCM processing has been applied in post, or if the recording is originally a PCM recording (viz. DXD), my experience has been that the 32-bit version simply sounds better than the either the 24-bit file or the PCM processed DSD256 file. It's a half-step closer to the sound I love from a Pure DSD256 recording.
At least on my primary system, with my DAC (a Playback Designs MPD-8).
But wait, you say... The Playback Designs MPD-8 accepts only 24-bit input files, so how can this be?
I don't know the answer. I've talked with the Playback Design's Andreas Koch about this and he has a theory but no firm answer.
_https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/music-reviews/what-we-hear-with-dxd-32-bit-files/
See also: "What Is 32-Bit Float Audio, and Should You Record In It?"
_https://www.wired.com/story/32-bit-float-audio-explained/
Since Intel HDA codecs support 32bit format, you can play 32bit audio files with OSS4 or ALSA, without thinking "how can this be?" Although, of course, Intel HDA codecs do not support "32bit Float" audio format.
1. DXD and vinyl
If you know what the Gibbs phenomenon is, you may think that analogue recordings might be better than digital ones.
A phonograph record (also known as a gramophone record, especially in British English), a vinyl record (for later varieties only), or simply a record or vinyl is an analog sound storage medium in the form of a flat disc with an inscribed, modulated spiral groove.
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record
However, when sample rate 🡪 infinity, digital recordings may eventually converge to analogue ones.
The goal of the "never-ending quest for the ultimate sound quality" seems to be a sort of extreme freedom.
2. Digital eXtreme Definition (DXD) with OSS4
There is a Petrov's fftrate plugin for Audacious, but it works only with a very old version of Audacious. Therefore, if you want to play DXD waves (or dsf files) with OSS4 in "exclusive mode", you may better convert them to an audio format, which is supported by your sound card.
For example, Intel HDA codecs support 32bit 192kHz format:
$ ossinfo -v9 | grep "Output formats" -A8
Output formats (0x00001010):
AFMT_S16_LE - 16 bit signed little endian
AFMT_S32_LE - 32 bit signed little endian
Device handle: PCIa0021458-0000:00:1b.0-au01
Related mixer dev: 0
Sample rate source: 0
Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 8
Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,96000,192000) DXD waves can be converted to 192kHz 32bit format with Petrov's pcm_conv. Notice that the original DXD wave is 32bit float:
$ pcm_conv -f 192000 -b 32 -T fft -v "08-Faust - Funeral March Of A Marionette - 32bit.wav" output_Faust_192kHz_32bit.wav
Input file : 08-Faust - Funeral March Of A Marionette - 32bit.wav
Samples rate = 352800 Hz
Channels = 2
Bits per sample = 32 (actual: 32, float)
Output file: output_Faust_192kHz_32bit.wav
Samples rate = 192000 Hz
Channels = 2
Bits per sample = 32 (actual: 32, fixed)
FL FR
FL 1.000 -----
FR ----- 1.000
Windows : "Vorbis" (37632 => 20480)
Delay : 107 ms
Sync. : ON
Trans. : "FFT"
[|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||] 99.0 %
Ok.
File duration : 275.906667 sec
Processing time: 14.542000 sec ( 5.27% of real time) Now you can play it with OSS4 in "exclusive mode":
ossplay -R -d0 -s192000 -c2 -fS32_LE output_Faust_192kHz_32bit.wav You can also play 192kHz waves with Audacious in "exclusive mode", if OSS4 plugin is enabled.
dsf files can be easily converted to waves with Audacious:
File → Settings → Audio
(1) set "Bit depth" to "Floating point"
(2) "Output plugin": "FileWriter Plugin" (then "Settings")
(3) "FileWriter Plugin Settings" - Output file format: WAV
Now, you can simply "play" a dsf file with Audacious, and it will be converted to a wave.
Notice, however, that the wave might be very big:
$ mediainfo '08-Faust - Funeral March Of A Marionette - DSD256.dsf.wav'
General
Complete name : 08-Faust - Funeral March Of A Marionette - DSD256.dsf-1.wav
Format : Wave
Format settings : PcmWaveformat
File size : 2.90 GiB
Duration : 4 min 35 s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 90.3 Mb/s
Audio
Format : PCM
Format profile : Float
Codec ID : 3
Codec ID/Hint : IEEE
Duration : 4 min 35 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 90.3 Mb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 1 411 kHz
Bit depth : 32 bits
Stream size : 2.90 GiB (100%) It can be converted to 32bit 192kHz with pcm_conv:
$ pcm_conv -f 192000 -b 32 -T fft -v *DSD256.dsf.wav output_Faust_192kHz_32bit.dsf.wav
Input file : 08-Faust - Funeral March Of A Marionette - DSD256.dsf.wav
Samples rate = 1411200 Hz
Channels = 2
Bits per sample = 32 (actual: 32, float)
Output file: output_Faust_192kHz_32bit.dsf.wav
Samples rate = 192000 Hz
Channels = 2
Bits per sample = 32 (actual: 32, fixed)
FL FR
FL 1.000 -----
FR ----- 1.000
Windows : "Vorbis" (150528 => 20480)
Delay : 107 ms
Sync. : ON
Trans. : "FFT"
[|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||] 99.0 %
Ok.
File duration : 275.906667 sec
Processing time: 61.711000 sec (22.37% of real time) Now, it can be played in "exclusive mode":
ossplay -R -d0 -s192000 -c2 -fS32_LE output_Faust_192kHz_32bit.dsf.wav 3. DXD and dsf with ALSA
DXD waves and flacs (as well as dsf files) can be easily played with Audacious, if Petrov's fftrate ALSA plugin is installed (and configured).
It is also possible to output a sort of "debug" to terminal or a text file. This is how it looks with iMic USB sound card (16bit 48kHz):
$ audacious 2>&1 *.dsf
Input: 1411200 Hz, 2 ch, 's32_le' (0xa): dummy = 0, period = 56448
Output: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 's16_le' (0x2): dummy = 0, period = 1920
Rates: 1411200 --> 48000 (J: 0.00%, T: FFT, W: Vorbis)
Ok. $ audacious 2>&1 *32bit.wav
Input: 352800 Hz, 2 ch, 's32_le' (0xa): dummy = 0, period = 14112
Output: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, 's16_le' (0x2): dummy = 0, period = 1920
Rates: 352800 --> 48000 (J: 0.00%, T: FFT, W: Vorbis)
Ok. You may also try FLAC (encoding and decoding) with "32bit fixed" audio format.
FLAC 1.4.0 released
09 Sep 2022
This release brings many small improvements and a few large ones. Here are the most important for end-users:
FLAC can now encode and decode 32 bit-per-sample audio. This means the FLAC format is now one step closer to being fully implemented. Note that this is 32 bit integer samples, not 32 bit float samples.
_https://xiph.org/flac/2022/09/09/flac-1-4-0-released.html
#128 Re: Off-topic » How World Leaders are Scrambling to Secure Food in the Shadows » 2024-07-01 16:19:24
If reading does not help, you may try wu wei.
#129 Re: Off-topic » How World Leaders are Scrambling to Secure Food in the Shadows » 2024-07-01 15:48:25
It might be a sin to obfuscate the Teaching.
Our life is shaped by our mind; we become what we think.
The Dhammapada - Full Audiobook with Text (AudioEbook)
_https://youtu.be/TcGfY4WSgVA
#130 Re: Off-topic » How World Leaders are Scrambling to Secure Food in the Shadows » 2024-07-01 14:48:02
Yes, I was confused by the movie, so many facts...
#131 Re: Off-topic » How World Leaders are Scrambling to Secure Food in the Shadows » 2024-07-01 14:11:16
The problems of "vital resources" and of "reproduction" are real problems. Another problem is how to separate facts from myths.
You might be surprised, but facts are myths, and nothing more. This scientific discovery was made by Roland Barthes.
If you think that it is a joke, you might be mistaken. The secret knowledge in encoded in British textbooks:
Barthes claims that is at the level of secondary signification or connotation that myth is produced and consumed... According to Barthes,
"what allows the reader to consume myth innocently is that he does not see it as a semiological system but as an inductive one. Where there is only equivalence, he sees a kind of causal process: the signifier and the signified have, in his eyes, a natural relationship. This confusion can be expressed otherwise: any semiological system is a system of values; now the myth-consumer takes the signification for a system of facts: myth is read as a factual system, whereas it is but a semiological system."
Jonh Storey, And Introductory Guide to Cultural Theory and Popular Culture, Edinburgh University Press, 1993.
To summarize, facts are myths, and myths are a sort of knowledge. The consumer of facts is a slave of knowledge.
#132 Re: Off-topic » Thoughts on Pipewire » 2024-06-30 20:32:55
Yes, it is very interesting.
#133 Re: Off-topic » Thoughts on Pipewire » 2024-06-30 19:50:54
Sorry to interrupt the voting procedure.
Didn't get audio to work with pure ALSA.
This seems to be the problem.
There is a belief that problems can be solved by voting. If it does not work, we may try something else.
#134 Re: Off-topic » Thoughts on Pipewire » 2024-06-30 14:12:04
Most important, it is easy to remove. Just another crap produced by the same sort of people.
I was asked to fix sound quality on Fedora without removing PipeWire.
Sound quality was so bad that it was impossible to use Discord.
First of all, I installed fftrate plugin and configured it for 32bit 192kHz.
The user was already satisfied with sound quality.
Then, I installed apulse and explained how to use it. This produced a sort of happiness.
#135 Re: Off-topic » Statistics is a very exact science » 2024-06-30 10:44:37
Can you hear ordinary music recordings without amplification?
If you feel that you really need an amplifier, you may better visit a doctor. Otherwise, very soon, you may need a much more powerful amplifier.
#136 Re: Off-topic » Statistics is a very exact science » 2024-06-30 09:33:48
Your sound card can reproduce the sound, because it has a very powerful amplifier (as you proudly declared before).
I may agree that such sound cards might be very helpful for semi-deaf PulseAudio users.
#137 Re: Off-topic » Statistics is a very exact science » 2024-06-30 06:33:10
It has nothing to do with my sound card. The audio file was amplified with Audacity.
The strong and unpleasant noise can be easily detected on spectrograms.
You can install Audacity (sudo apt install audacity) and verify this.
Perhaps, you do not know how Audacity works. You open an audio file with Audacity. Select the whole file and amplify it. Save the result. Then you can select a time interval and build a spectrogram.
If you think that Audacity's amplifier (with default settings) is producing strong audio distortions, you can file a bug.
> mediainfo 2bit64_fragment.wav | grep Sampling -A1
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Bit depth : 16 bitsInstead of fooling yourself with an oscilloscope, try to record a low level background noise (or sound) with a portable Olympus Hi-Res Audio Recorder. Then, you can amplify it with Audacity, and see (and hear) the difference.
But why do you need such a strong amplifier? Do you have problems with hearing?
#138 Re: Off-topic » Statistics is a very exact science » 2024-06-29 21:04:35
Audacity FFT spectrogram has nothing to do with the quality of my sound card (Intel HDA codec).
The default minimum is -90dB. This is below the audible level.
_https://support.audacityteam.org/audio-analysis/spectral-analysis#plot-spectrum
After amplification, you can hear the song, but the level of rather unpleasant noise is very high.
But this because, perhaps, the song was recorded with the help of PulseAudio.
#139 Re: Off-topic » Statistics is a very exact science » 2024-06-29 15:59:45
Yes, you may need an amplifier, especially for high frequencies, if you have problems with hearing.
#140 Re: Off-topic » Statistics is a very exact science » 2024-06-29 15:41:46
If you open this wave with Audacity, you see nothing there, and Audacity's spectrogram shows nothing.
This may mean, perhaps, that human beings are not expected to hear anything.
However, if you amplify it with Audacity tool (50dB), you can hear the song and a lot of noise.
But it is still below -43dB. You can amplify it more, but then you may have a horrible noise as well.
It is, indeed, a sort of popular song. I do not know "who sings what".
I would not pass a test on popular songs.
#141 Off-topic » Statistics is a very exact science » 2024-06-29 13:37:24
- igorzwx
- Replies: 12
Over 5% of the world’s population – or 430 million people – require rehabilitation to address their disabling hearing loss (including 34 million children). It is estimated that by 2050 over 700 million people – or 1 in every 10 people – will have disabling hearing loss.
_https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/deafness-and-hearing-loss
Linux reached 4.03 percent of global market share in February, according to data from research firm Statcounter. That takes Linux past the 3 percent milestone it reached in June 2023. While we’re still far from the Year of the Linux Desktop, interest in Linux has somewhat grown lately.
_https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/03/linux-continues-growing-market-share-reaches-4-of-desktops/
15 years ago, the data were different: deaf people - 2%, and, correspondingly, Linux Desktop users - 2%.
It seems to be a result of "natural selection" caused by PulseAudio. Therefore, it should not be difficult to verify these data with mathematical modeling.
#142 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox broken? » 2024-06-29 11:15:30
firefox --version
Mozilla Firefox 115.12.0esrapt show firefox-esr
Package: firefox-esr
Version: 115.12.0esr-1~deb12u1
Priority: optional
Section: web
Maintainer: Maintainers of Mozilla-related packages <team+pkg-mozilla@tracker.debian.org>
Installed-Size: 237 MB
Provides: gnome-www-browser, www-browser
Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.36), libcairo-gobject2 (>= 1.10.0), libcairo2 (>= 1.10.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.9.14), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.78), libevent-2.1-7 (>= 2.1.8-stable), libffi8 (>= 3.4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.12.6), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc-s1 (>= 4.0), libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.37.0), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.13.7), libnspr4 (>= 2:4.32~), libnss3 (>= 2:3.82), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libstdc++6 (>= 12), libvpx7 (>= 1.12.0), libx11-6, libx11-xcb1 (>= 2:1.8.4), libxcb-shm0, libxcb1, libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.4.5), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.4.0), libxtst6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.11.dfsg), fontconfig, procps, debianutils (>= 1.16)
Recommends: libavcodec60 | libavcodec-extra60 | libavcodec59 | libavcodec-extra59 | libavcodec58 | libavcodec-extra58 | libavcodec57 | libavcodec-extra57 | libavcodec56 | libavcodec-extra56 | libavcodec55 | libavcodec-extra55 | libavcodec54 | libavcodec-extra54 | libavcodec53 | libavcodec-extra53
Suggests: fonts-stix | otf-stix, fonts-lmodern, libgssapi-krb5-2 | libkrb53, libcanberra0, pulseaudio
Breaks: xul-ext-torbutton
Download-Size: 63.1 MB
APT-Manual-Installed: no
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security/main amd64 Packages
Description: Mozilla Firefox web browser - Extended Support Release (ESR)
Firefox ESR is a powerful, extensible web browser with support for modern
web application technologies.#143 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Auto login » 2024-06-28 19:19:24
It seems to be a philosophical problem. You may find such instructions in Arch Wiki.
Perhaps, you need SLiM manual
_https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SLiM
See also
_https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/display_manager
If you have Mate Desktop, you are likely to have LightDM
_https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/LightDM
cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
/usr/sbin/lightdm#144 Re: Freedom Hacks » How to rebuild audacious-plugins » 2024-06-27 15:53:07
FreeBSD has own fork of OSSv3, but OSSv4 is also available for FreeBSD.
OSS4 now exists mostly as a standalone piece of software, not integrated into the kernel source code. The exception is Solaris and OpenSolaris, which use a fork of OSS4 called Boomer. It combines the OSS4 framework (audio and mixer) together with Sun's earlier SADA (/dev/audio) API.
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_System#Code
It seems that the main problem of ALSA is crappy resamplers.
That is why, it might be interesting to try Petrov's fftrate.
It is easy to compile _https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6644
The default setting for fftrate ALSA plugin can be easily produced with arateconf. They include a software mixer. It might be needed simply because Intel HDA codecs do not have hardware mixers.
There are professional sound cards which have HW mixers, but such cards are very expensive, and they may not have Linux drivers.
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merging_Technologies
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_eXtreme_Definition
ALSA RAVENNA AES67 Linux Driver (Merging Technologies)
_https://www.merging.com/support/downloads#alsa-linux
Since Petrov's fftrate supports DXD format (24bit 352.8 kHz), you can play DXD waves and flacs with Audacious on a notebook with Intel HDA codec (fftrate should be configured for 32bit 192kHz, if you want to have a good sound quality). DXD music is available on HDtracks.
#145 Re: Freedom Hacks » How to rebuild audacious-plugins » 2024-06-27 14:07:10
And why do you need such an old audio system?
Because of sound quality.
Sure, we can build a deb package, but there's no guarantee it will work....
Yes, this is the problem.
OSS4 packages (which work) have been available in Arch Linux repositories since time immemorial.
Debian developers did try to build OSS4 packages for Debian, but they always failed to work.
There were OSS4 packages in Ubuntu repositories. They did not work, but they were easy to install (and difficult to remove).
They are still OSS4 packages in Debian testing, which do not work.
On the other hand, it was not a problem for Ubuntu newbies to compile working OSS4 packages themselves.
The main problem is that an OSS4 driver for your sound card may not be available.
Perhaps, it might be more reasonable to patch Petrov's fftrate for gcc-12 and build deb packages for Devuan.
With Petrov's ALSA plugin, you can get a very good sound quality on a notebook with Intel HDA codec (motherboad).
Moreover, you can use video conferencing apps without PulseAudio. But you have to generate ~/.asoundrc with Petrov's arateconf and use apulse.
#146 Freedom Hacks » How to rebuild audacious-plugins » 2024-06-27 02:59:54
- igorzwx
- Replies: 4
Freedom implies the freedom of choice.
What kind of freedom is it, if you have only one sound system installed in your Devuan?
Although the so-called "upstream" tends to restrict the freedom of Linux users, it is not very difficult to compile OSSv4 for Devuan.
Patches can be found in the Arch Linux AUR package oss-git
_https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/oss-git
_https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Open_Sound_System
If you have two sound cards (e.g. Intel HDA and USB sound card), you can use OSS4 and ALSA simultaneously.
The difference between OSS4 and ALSA is that OSS4 permits the so-called "exclusive mode":
man ossplay | grep virtual -A1
-R Disable redirection to virtual mixer engines and sample rate/format conversions. Should not be used un‐
less absolutely necessary.The OSS4 plugin for Audacious has an option "Enable exclusive mode to prevent virtual mixing". It is intended for playing high resolution audio files "as they are", without resampling and sound distortions produced by the software mixer (vmix).
Notice, however, that Petrov's fftrate is much better than OSS4 resamplers, so that, OSS4 can be dedicated for playing audio files in "exclusive mode", and ALSA for ordinary desktop usage (playing movies in youtube, video conferencing, etc.)
In a word, Intel HDA codecs support many audio formats:
ossinfo -v9 | grep "HD Audio play front" -A13
HD Audio play front /dev/oss/oss_hdaudio0/pcm0 (device index 0)
Legacy device /dev/dsp0
Caps: TRIGGER MMAP
Modes: OUTPUT
Out engine 1: 0/HD Audio play front
Available for use
Input formats (0x00001010):
AFMT_S16_LE - 16 bit signed little endian
AFMT_S32_LE - 32 bit signed little endian
Output formats (0x00001010):
AFMT_S16_LE - 16 bit signed little endian
AFMT_S32_LE - 32 bit signed little endian
Device handle: PCIa0021458-0000:00:1b.0-au01
Related mixer dev: 0
Sample rate source: 0
Preferred channel configuration: Not indicated
Supported number of channels (min - max): 2 - 8
Native sample rates (min - max): 44100 - 192000 (44100,48000,96000,192000)To enable the OSS4 plugin, you have to rebuild the package "audacious-plugins".
If you are going to compile something, it makes sense to install some tools:
sudo apt install build-essential devscripts command-not-foundmkdir audacious-plugins-rebuildcd audacious-plugins-rebuildDownload the source code and install build dependencies:
apt-get source audacious-pluginssudo apt-get build-dep audacious-pluginsls -1
audacious-plugins-4.2
audacious-plugins_4.2-1.debian.tar.xz
audacious-plugins_4.2-1.dsc
audacious-plugins_4.2.orig.tar.bz2cd audacious-plugins-4.2To enable the OSS4 plugin, you have to edit "debian/rules"
cat ./debian/rules | grep oss4 -B2
override_dh_auto_configure:
dh_auto_configure -- $(additional_confflags) \
--disable-rpath --enable-gtk --enable-oss4 You can also edit "changelog":
cat ./debian/changelog | grep 4.2-2
audacious-plugins (4.2-2) unstable; urgency=mediumNow you can rebuild audacious-plugins:
dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -bcd ..ls -1 | grep .deb
audacious-plugins_4.2-1.debian.tar.xz
audacious-plugins_4.2-2_amd64.deb
audacious-plugins-data_4.2-2_all.deb
audacious-plugins-dbgsym_4.2-2_amd64.debNow you can reinstall Audacious:
sudo apt purge audacious audacious-plugins audacious-plugins-data
sudo dpkg -i audacious-plugins_4.2-2_amd64.deb audacious-plugins-data_4.2-2_all.deb
sudo apt install audaciousTo prevent upgrade, you can pin them all:
sudo nano /etc/apt/preferencescat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: audacious
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1
Package: audacious-plugins
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1
Package: audacious-plugins-data
Pin: release *
Pin-Priority: -1apt-cache policy audacious-plugins-data
audacious-plugins-data:
Installed: 4.2-2
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
*** 4.2-2 -1
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4.2-1 -1
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packagesapt-cache policy audacious-plugins
audacious-plugins:
Installed: 4.2-2
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
*** 4.2-2 -1
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
4.2-1+b1 -1
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packagesapt-cache policy audacious
audacious:
Installed: 4.2-1
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
*** 4.2-1 -1
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/statusNOTE: If you want to rebuild a Debian package, which is not available in Devuan repositories
(e.g. _https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wxmaxima/24.02.1-1build2 ),
you can use these commands:
dpkg-source -x *.dscsudo mk-build-deps -i # it should be executed inside the source directorydpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -b#147 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-06-26 12:52:58
Cardinal de Richelieu asks the head of the Sécurité extérieure, during a military parade, "Sir, who are those guys in the plain suits in the parade?" "Oh," the Sécurité extérieure head answers, "they are economists, Your Eminence." And when Cardinal de Richelieu raises his eyebrows, he hastens to explain, " Just wait until we let them loose in the UK."
NOTE: The joke was found in Shumerian chronicles. Instead of economists, you can substitute any other scientists, depending on the context.
#148 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-06-20 18:08:14
Sorry for this. I was trying to understand what you mean by "vortex that binds and enslaves" and my processors got overheated.
But what then is your guiding principle for moderating jokes?
#149 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-06-20 16:33:35
Are you going to say that imagination should be abolished to prevent suffering?
#150 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-06-20 14:48:58
Machines don't think
I seems that your imagination is restricted by your beliefs.
Indeed, "knowledge is justified true belief" (Plato).
Are you a slave of your knowledge?
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