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#126 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-26 17:54:09

Well, 3 days on, no lockups. It seems the culprit was indeed some stray Beowulf config that got blasted when I re-installed ASCII. Good riddance!

Next step: see if AQemu works, despite the IOMMU BIOS setting being disabled by default. Goal: run Win7 as VM.

#127 Off-topic » Caution, Wet! Computing explained » 2021-04-23 19:51:12

Dutch_Master
Replies: 3

Brilliant video explaining how logic gates work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxXaizglscw

PS: don't use beer, a memory leak is inevitable wink

#128 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-23 13:28:42

I'm pretty sure it's not the mainboard, as that's been running stable for the past 6 years. Before my unfortunate "upgrade" to Beowulf, the CPU I'd put in last month was also stable. Both are fairly old so should be supported in Linux. So, I'm suspecting a remnant of Beowulf config somewhere as I've re-installed ASCII again this morning, after I removed a number of no-longer used dot files/folders in my users home dir. So far it hasn't locked up on me. See how long that lasts.

Come to think of it, it could be related to power management and/or screensaver stuff instead. I have the screensaver turned off and the power management switched off to the maximum intent, but after a period of no user input (mouse, kb), the screen still blanks itself (which is probably inside the monitor). I need to look that up and see if I can counter this behaviour (IIRC there was a kernel option to disable it, not sure)

(PS: for those who want to look it up, the mainboard is a Gigabyte F2A88XM-D3H with BIOS version F8, CPU is an AMD APU: PRO A10-8750B, no separate discrete GPU)

#129 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-22 23:25:29

Yes, I did. Unless it's deteriorated incredibly fast in the past weeks, I doubt that'll be a problem (it's been in the system for years and never failed, even with the intensive use I require from it)

#130 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-22 22:44:59

Well, after one too many freeze up I ditched Beowulf, tried to get Funtoo to work (but a core package for Mate failed to configure repeatedly and consequently build) then late last night I took my ASCII USB stick and booted from it. Installed ASCII, but sadly, the random freezes are still there. It might be related to Firefox, may need to look into that.

So, not a happy chappy here, to say the least >:-{  I may try Mint, but that means [shudder] systemd :puke:

#131 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 22:44:16

My experience is, so far, that adding the set_path option in /etc/default/su outlined above works and su reverts to it's normal, expected behaviour. So, I can obtain root with a simple su, no extra dash required, and I stay in the current dir too!

#132 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 20:13:37

Well, for the 2nd time tonight Beowulf crashed. I was browsing while playing 2 local video files (via smplayer and vlc respectively) and it froze solid. No input, audio looped continuously, no response at all. Only a hard reset could solve the issue. This was on the Xen-enabled kernel. On ASCII, this scenario was perfectly fine and it could do this literally all day and never miss a beat. Now running the non-Xen kernel, see if that changes anything.

So far, Beowulf impresses me badly for all the wrong reasons roll

#133 Re: Off-topic » Gentoo, Slackware and more » 2021-04-20 17:26:52

bimon wrote:

Is not Sabayon dead (not being updated)? Though their google group indicates some activity.

Not anymore, if ever:
https://forums.funtoo.org/topic/4882-fu … ng-forces/

Daniel Robbins is/was the main architect of Gentoo, so expect some improvements to Sabayon when it comes to init systems.

#134 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 16:59:21

Yeah, I did that too now. Didn't solve all issues, I still can't load a module required for Qemu. As root:

# echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
# modprobe kvm-amd
modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_amd': Operation not supported
# modprobe kvm_amd
modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_amd': Operation not supported
# modprobe -c | grep kvm_amd
alias cpu:type:x86,ven*fam*mod*:feature:*00C2* kvm_amd

So, what next?

#135 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 13:10:29

fsmithred wrote:

su got moved from shadow to util-linux. I don't know what thought went into the change in root's path when you get there via 'su'. If you use 'su -' it still works the same as it used to. It's in the release notes for beowulf along with some other inherited gems and workarounds. https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf … _notes.txt

OK, fair enough. I don't use su -, I created an alias for su to invoke su - in ~/.bash_aliases. It works, but clearly not for everything.

#136 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 13:01:58

dice wrote:

Im not 100% certain but i believe this might be due to the UsrMerge scheme adopted by debian. I always choose not to merge during installation.

https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge

Regrettably, that wasn't an option during my upgrade.

#137 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 12:46:51

In that case, during the upgrade this new directory should have been added to $PATH for root, but clearly it hasn't on my system. Or it was removed by the upgrade, that I can't be sure of as I didn't test it before upgrading.

[edit] Found the culprit, in /etc/profile:

if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then
  PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"
else
  PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games"
fi
export PATH

So, if the user uses su into root from your normal user, the id does not equate to 0 thus /sbin is not in your $PATH roll

PS: which "bright spark" had the "luminous" idea to set terminal text as bright yellow on a bright white background? You should be clobbered into sense with a foam bat! roll

#138 Desktop and Multimedia » Beowulf is broken » 2021-04-20 12:36:08

Dutch_Master
Replies: 24

ASCII -> Beowulf upgrade
boot option: Qemu/Xen enabled

# whoami
root
# uname -a
Linux desktop 4.19.0-16-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.181-1 (2021-03-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
# echo $PATH:
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
# modprobe -c
bash: modprobe: command not found
# halt
bash: halt: command not found

WTF! >:-{

#139 Re: Installation » Partitioning schemes separate var and usr and boot 4 unfussy root? » 2021-04-10 09:29:09

I have /boot, / and /home on separate partitions, most of the time, for simplicity/speed/convenience. For servers, /usr and /var are also separate.

#140 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Random freeze on ASCII » 2021-03-26 01:04:03

So, what a difference a few days make. It turns out the problem was of my own making, typical PEBKAC! I'd forgotten to update the BIOS and the old version didn't support he 'new' APU. (insert facepalm smiley)

#141 Re: Installation » Beowulf Beta Issues » 2021-03-25 13:38:21

I know it's a pretty old thread, but I was finally sufficiently hacked off to attempt a workaround.

Create a file ~/.bash_aliases containing the following:

alias su='su -'

You'd need the single quotes as to evaluate every time the alias is used. It worked on a fresh Beowulf test install.

If it has no negative effects I may actually start consider upgrading my ASCII systems to Beowulf.

#142 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Random freeze on ASCII » 2021-03-23 17:57:47

I hadn't installed the amd64-microcode package. So that's done now.

Meanwhile, I had another crash, while avoiding playing video files. During several failed boots the kernel hung on a message complaining about ECC memory signatures not present (it's non-ECC DDR3). I've now taken out 3 RAM sticks so now running on 1x 8CB. Playing mkv video finished fine, am mp4 crashed after a while (ca 4 min in). I've also removed the nVidia GPU, so now on the R7 APU.

Stress looks interesting, I'll install it and see what it can do.

#143 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Random freeze on ASCII » 2021-03-23 15:14:35

Upgrade to Beowulf is a no-go, as it doesn't do how I like doing things, particularly regarding su. Current kernel is 4.9.0-15 so well after the release of this hardware. I've tried getting Funtoo running on it, but ran into an issue with some Grub dependencies which failed compiling. I may have another go (it has a 5 series kernel).

#144 Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Random freeze on ASCII » 2021-03-23 00:29:40

Dutch_Master
Replies: 7

Recently the desktop started freezing randomly after a CPU upgrade. Prior to that I was able to play 2 video streams concurrently (using different media players) but now playing even one video stream crashes the desktop, freezing it completely. Keyboard and mouse no longer respond, a hard reset is the only way to regain control. But after a few such events the OS borks itself and a fresh install is required (and time consuming, as well as getting old now roll

A short-ish mkv file played fine, a longer mp4 video crashed the system. There are no logs, due to the hard reset, so no trace options available.

Apart from the CPU, the rest of the system hasn't changed. The old CPU was an AMD A8-5600K, the new one is the A10-PRO-8750B, both APU's. I've tried the R7 GPU as well as the nVidia GT710 card, both are supported in the respective drivers. Made no difference, so currently the GT710 card is in use. Other key components are: 4x8GB DDR3-1333 RAM, Samsung EVO850 120GB SSD. mainboard: Gigabyte F2A88X-D3H.

For the moment, not playing video, the system seems stable, but I'd like to give this a thorough stress-test so if the new APU is faulty I can reclaim the expense from the seller. Is there a way to do that?

TIA!

#145 Re: Installation » Cannot add ppa » 2021-03-18 19:55:41

Did you install the build-essential package? This creates a full build environment by pulling in all essential packages. (by itself it installs nothing, but uses the dependency resolution from apt to get what it needs installed)

#146 Re: Installation » Cannot add ppa » 2021-03-18 16:24:42

Devuan doesn't use ppa's, it's an Ubuntu thing. Devuan is not based on Ubuntu (and never will be) so you'd need to add the repository to /etc/apt/sources.list manually.

#147 Re: Off-topic » Operating System Backups » 2021-03-05 14:18:10

Rsync for backing up data, not the OS.

#148 Re: Documentation » Simple Generic Read-Only File Server Using SAMBA (suitable for Kodi) » 2021-02-26 23:40:50

Sudo is a typical Ubuntu-base prefix, on Debian and Devuan by default* you don't need sudo, just su and you have root permissions. Achieve the same on Ubuntu with

sudo su

Now skip the sudo prefix from the above commands.

*this depends on whether or not you've set a root password during installation. If you have, sudo is installed, but disabled for your user. (installed because other programs need it anyway). Technically, if you set a root pw, your regular user is not added to the /etc/sudoers file.

#149 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release » 2021-02-16 12:58:59

zapper wrote:
Dutch_Master wrote:

Does it include a patch package to undo the horrible change in su behaviour introduced in the 3.0 release?

What change is that?

Is su, more messed up then before?

Have a quick read, including the replies I got.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21042#p21042

#150 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release » 2021-02-15 18:41:51

Does it include a patch package to undo the horrible change in su behaviour introduced in the 3.0 release?

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