Posts by Altoid

Altoid · Installation

fsmithred wrote:

Sorry, I don't know ...

No problem. 8^D

fsmithred wrote:

... see the "not provided by any .service files" a lot, and I just ignore it.

Right.

fsmithred wrote:

... remind us all that we're not running systemd.

Lol ...

fsmithred wrote:

Try this:

apt -s remove consolekit

[root@devuan ~]# apt -s remove consolekit
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package 'consolekit' is not installed, so not removed
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[root@devuan ~]#

Nothing.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why consolekit
i   slim Depends default-logind | logind | consolekit
groucho@devuan:~$
What does this mean in practical terms? eg: for slim which I am fond of.
It means slim needs something that provides default-logind or one of the others on that line.

I'm writing on this again as I have found this in /var/log/slim.log:

slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.
slim: Consolekit::open_session: Unable to open session: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files
slim: falling back to PAM session
groucho@devuan:/var/log$

It would seem that slim is still looking for consolekit in spite of it being replaced by elogind.
Why is that?

I am being able to log in without problems.

Thanks in advance,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

I have this line in my /var/log/syslog:

Feb 22 16:35:25 devuan dbus-daemon[2963]: [session uid=1000 pid=2961] Activated service 'org.kde.kwalletd' failed: Failed to execute program org.kde.kwalletd: No such file or directory

I know uid=1000 is me but I cannot find pid=2961 which I guess is the program that syslog says failed to execute.

groucho@devuan:~$ ls /proc
1      121   129   1668  2058  25    2904  2992  3036  3131  37    4804  9591       driver       kpagecgroup   sched_debug    version
10     122   130   1697  207   2514  2905  2996  3040  3155  38    5185  9592       execdomains  kpagecount    schedstat      vmallocinfo
10097  1224  131   17    208   26    2906  3     3060  3161  39    6     acpi       fb           kpageflags    self           vmstat
10349  1225  132   1704  21    2602  2907  30    3063  3166  4     6091  asound     filesystems  loadavg       slabinfo       zoneinfo
10397  1226  14    1705  2102  2631  2908  3003  3072  3171  40    66    buddyinfo  fs           locks         softirqs
10401  1227  142   1708  2135  2633  2916  3007  3074  3183  4094  67    bus        interrupts   meminfo       stat
10483  1228  15    1719  2160  2658  2927  3008  3077  3186  41    6743  cgroups    iomem        misc          swaps
11     1229  1555  19    2161  2667  2930  3009  3078  3195  413   7990  cmdline    ioports      modules       sys
115    123   157   1968  2190  27    2962  3013  3079  3199  42    8     consoles   irq          mounts        sysrq-trigger
116    124   16    1982  2192  2771  2963  3022  3081  32    43    8664  cpuinfo    kallsyms     mpt           sysvipc
117    125   161   2     22    2804  2973  3023  3082  33    44    8760  crypto     kcore        mtrr          thread-self
118    126   164   20    2223  2832  2983  3025  3086  34    4719  9     devices    key-users    net           timer_list
119    127   165   2010  24    29    2985  3033  31    35    4745  9272  diskstats  keys         pagetypeinfo  tty
12     128   166   205   2488  2903  2990  3034  3118  36    48    9273  dma        kmsg         partitions    uptime
groucho@devuan:~$

Seems that org.kde.kwalletd is present in the system:

groucho@devuan:~$ locate kwalletd | grep org.kde.kwalletd
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.kwalletd.service
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.kwalletd5.service
groucho@devuan:~$

There is also a /.local/share/kwalletd sub-folder in my home folder but it is empty.

Could this be related to having replaced consolekit with elogind?
I have not seen or noticed any adverse symptoms.

Thanks in advance,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

dice wrote:

uninstalling apparmor also solves this issue.

Quite so ...
Something I'm considering as I'm not certain it is of any use to me.

ie: everything is apparently unconfined, so what does it actually do? Am I missing some configuration file/s?

groucho@devuan:~$  sudo dmesg | grep apparmor
[   25.423650] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-senddoc" pid=1409 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.448662] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-oopslash" pid=1412 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.474000] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="nvidia_modprobe" pid=1411 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.500604] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="nvidia_modprobe//kmod" pid=1411 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.500605] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/bin/man" pid=1410 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.500607] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_filter" pid=1410 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.500608] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_groff" pid=1410 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.500609] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-soffice" pid=1414 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.500611] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-soffice//gpg" pid=1414 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.500612] audit: type=1400 --- snip --- apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-xpdfimport" pid=1416 comm="apparmor_parser"
groucho@devuan:~$

dice wrote:

... being obnoxious sorry...

Nah!

It's quite alright, been there/done that.

After all, it is monday.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

As I do every so often, I was trawling through my dmesg output to see if everything was running kosher and came across a few lines involving apparmor.

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.171-2 (2021-01-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep apparmor
--- snip ---
apparmor/stable,now 2.13.2-10 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libapparmor1/stable,now 2.13.2-10 amd64 [installed]
groucho@devuan:~$

groucho@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep apparmor
[   25.573821] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:2): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-senddoc" pid=1413 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.602109] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:3): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-oopslash" pid=1416 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.630152] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:4): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/bin/man" pid=1414 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.656608] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:5): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_filter" pid=1414 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.656609] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:6): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_groff" pid=1414 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.656611] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:7): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/haveged" pid=1419 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.656612] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:8): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-xpdfimport" pid=1420 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.656613] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:9): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=1417 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.656616] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:10): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" pid=1417 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   25.857783] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992734.879:11): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd//third_party" pid=1417 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   38.103239] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992747.407:16): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" profile="/usr/sbin/haveged" name="/run/haveged.pid" pid=2516 comm="haveged" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[ 2040.598275] audit: type=1400 audit(1613994749.903:17): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="file_mmap" profile="libreoffice-soffice" name="/tmp/.glRDlerP" pid=8590 comm="soffice.bin" requested_mask="m" denied_mask="m" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[ 2040.905923] audit: type=1400 audit(1613994750.211:18): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="libreoffice-soffice" name="/home/groucho/.icons/default/index.theme" pid=8589 comm="soffice.bin" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[ 2040.906026] audit: type=1400 audit(1613994750.211:19): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="libreoffice-soffice" name="/home/groucho/.icons/default/index.theme" pid=8589 comm="soffice.bin" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[ 2040.906121] audit: type=1400 audit(1613994750.211:20): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="libreoffice-soffice" name="/home/groucho/.icons/default/index.theme" pid=8589 comm="soffice.bin" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[ 2040.906212] audit: type=1400 audit(1613994750.211:21): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="libreoffice-soffice" name="/home/groucho/.icons/default/index.theme" pid=8589 comm="soffice.bin" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
groucho@devuan:~$

The one that caught my eye was this one:

[   38.103239] audit: type=1400 audit(1613992747.407:16): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" profile="/usr/sbin/haveged" name="/run/haveged.pid" pid=2516 comm="haveged" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep haveged
--- snip ---
haveged/stable,now 1.9.1-7 amd64 [installed]
groucho@devuan:~$

I looked it up and found a Debian bug report from late 2018: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=911604

Basically, what I understand is happening is that apparmor does not allow haveged to start, failing silently.

From what I can make out of the text in the bug report, it seems that this does not happen if your installation uses systemd, but it does if you use openrc-init, sysvinit and probaby the rest, apparently generating first-boot delays.

A workaround to the problem was posted by the bug's OP and confirmed to work in a later post.

What helped was adding the line
/run/haveged.pid w,
to /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.haveged, so you should probably add that line to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.haveged.

This was apparently fixed in haveged 1.9.1-8 but the latest version in http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 is 1.9.1-7.

I'll try the fix and report back later.

Edit: the fix works.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

fsmithred wrote:

Thanks.

You're welcome ...

fsmithred wrote:

They're working on it.

As far as I can understand, it is already fixed.
I had added the kvm group to the system in order to get rid of this complaint in dmesg:

--- snip ---
[   14.484174] udevd[395]: specified group 'kvm' unknown
--- snip ---

It was caused by a bug in PR 5597 that created a kvm node in Debian independently of quemu being installed.
So a bug was filed.

See https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6360

But an argument in favour of this being a necessary feature and not a bug was put forth by head dick Poettering:

Anyway, I am very sure that /dev/kvm should be considered a standard system concept now, sharedby apps, and generic enough to be set up by systemd properly. I hope this makes some sense, and will close this now...

So I added the (unnecessary) kvm group and the dmesg complaint was no more.

But on a dist-upgrade to my ASCII I got the error in the OP and the error went away after I removed the unnecesary and non-system kvm group.

So, it seems that Devuan 3.1 does not create a kvm node and group by default, independently of quemu (or any other software) being installed.
Which is (if I understood correctly) how the principle of modularization works.

ie: a device node and group are created as needed by the software and not by default on installation of the OS.

Did I get this right?

Thanks in advance,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

I'll check and add the info later on.

It seems that basic common sense prevailed, most probably within the Devuan maintainers/packagers. (Thanks!)

ie: no quemu package installed? Then no kvm device node or group needs to be added to the system.
Elementary ...

groucho@devuan3:~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i eudev
[    1.445705] udevd[94]: starting eudev-3.2.9
[   14.557986] udevd[391]: starting eudev-3.2.9

groucho@devuan3:~$ sudo dmesg | grep kvm
groucho@devuan3:~$ sudo dmesg | grep unknown
groucho@devuan3:~$

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

While tidying up a parallel Beowulf installation I have on another drive (to eventually migrate to Openbox instead of XFCE) I came across this problem:
It was previously upgraded from ASCII.

root@devuan3:/etc/apt# apt upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Setting up eudev (3.2.9-8~beowulf1) ...
The group `kvm' already exists and is not a system group. Exiting.
dpkg: error processing package eudev (--configure):
 installed eudev package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 eudev
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@devuan3:/etc/apt#

Reinstalling eudev brings up this:

root@devuan3:/etc/apt# apt-get reinstall eudev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
E: Internal Error, No file name for eudev:amd64
root@devuan3:/etc/apt#

Trying to fix brings up this:

root@devuan3:/etc/apt# apt install -f
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up eudev (3.2.9-8~beowulf1) ...
The group `kvm' already exists and is not a system group. Exiting.
dpkg: error processing package eudev (--configure):
 installed eudev package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 eudev
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@devuan3:/etc/apt#

Same with a dist-upgrade:

root@devuan3:/etc/apt# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Setting up eudev (3.2.9-8~beowulf1) ...
The group `kvm' already exists and is not a system group. Exiting.
dpkg: error processing package eudev (--configure):
 installed eudev package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 eudev
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
root@devuan3:/etc/apt#

I then recalled that (on this installation) at one time last year I had some hassle in dmesg with respect to group kvm:

--- snip ---
[   14.484174] udevd[395]: specified group 'kvm' unknown
--- snip ---

See https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3850

... which I solved by simply creating the %&/$*~ group but in turn originated the eudev problem.

I removed the offending kvm group and all is well:

root@devuan3:~# apt update && apt install -f && apt upgrade
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
root@devuan3:~#

Maybe at the 3.1 point release the kvm issue got fixed and it does not show up in dmesg.
I'll check and add the info later on.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

fsmithred wrote:

... mean in practical terms? eg: for slim which I am fond of.
... slim needs something that provides default-logind or one of the others on that line.

So ...
slim depends on default-logind or logind or consolekit.
Right?

My question was aimed more at the existence of consolekit as a residual configuration component:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i consolekit

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
--- snip ---
consolekit/stable,now 1.2.1-8 amd64 [residual-config]      <------- 
--- snip ---
groucho@devuan:~$

fsmithred wrote:

If a package depends on libpam-system | libpam-elogind, it'll complain about missing libpam-systemd if neither of those is there.

I see ...

Seeing that the residual consolekit is there after I installed elogind, something will surely break if I remove it, right?
Maybe I am giving the residual aspect of it too much importance. (?)

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

dice wrote:

why are you using apt list ?

Gives me information of what's installed from the apt repertoire?
I find why and why-not quite enlightening.

dice wrote:

if you want to see what is on your system use dpkg

OK.

groucho@devuan:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i consolekit
rc  consolekit                             1.2.1-8                             amd64        framework for defining and tracking users, sessions and seats
ii  libck-connector0:amd64                 1.2.1-8                             amd64        ConsoleKit libraries
groucho@devuan:~$

Thanks a lot for the heads-up.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

... see about trying to get it done this weekend.

Had an idle half hour while waiting for something, like we are all doing these days.
Upgrade worked, without issues. =^D

Then I checked to see:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep consolekit

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

groucho@devuan:~$

OK, consolekit is no longer installed.

I went further and found this:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i consolekit

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

consolekit-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
consolekit-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
consolekit/stable,now 1.2.1-8 amd64 [residual-config]      <-------  
consolekit/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libconsolekit-dev/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
libconsolekit-dev/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libconsolekit1-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
libconsolekit1-dbgsym/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libconsolekit1/stable 1.2.1-8 amd64
libconsolekit1/stable 1.2.1-8 i386
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0-dbgsym/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 amd64
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-dev/stable 0.105-25+devuan8 i386
groucho@devuan:~$

So I asked:

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why consolekit
i   slim Depends default-logind | logind | consolekit
groucho@devuan:~$

What does this mean in practical terms? eg: for slim which I am fond of.

Thanks in advance,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

dice wrote:

... think you will be ok upgrading from consolkit to elogind.

Thanks, I'll see about trying to get it done this weekend.

It seems that consolekit is deprecated and maybe on its way out. (?)

See https://bugs.devuan.org/db/42/425.html

Received: (at submit) by bugs.devuan.org; 23 Apr 2020 21:30:02 +0000
Return-Path: <alexispm_stellaluna@yahoo.es>
Delivered-To: devuanbugs@dyne.org
--- snip ---
Package: policykit-1
Version: 0.105-25+devuan8
policykit-1 dependency is declared as "logind" instead of "elogind", forcing to use de deprecated (no buster yet) consolekit. <- my highlighting

Thanks a lot for your input.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

dice wrote:

Looks like you have backintime-qt4 installed ??

Indeed ... 8^/
What a (quite embarrassed) dick!

Sorry for the slip-up, that's what happens with not enough coffee after a bad night's sleep.

Yes, that's quite evidently backintime-qt4.

Here's all the qt I found:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep -i qt

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

backintime-qt4/stable,stable,now 1.1.24-0.1 all [installed]
libdbusmenu-qt5-2/stable,now 0.9.3+16.04.20160218-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libphonon4qt5-4/stable,now 4:4.10.2-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-dbus/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-declarative/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-designer/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-help/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-network/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-script/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-scripttools/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-sql-mysql/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-sql/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-svg/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-test/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-xml/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt4-xmlpatterns/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5core5a/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5dbus5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5gui5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5network5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5opengl5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5positioning5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5printsupport5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5qml5/stable,now 5.11.3-4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5quick5/stable,now 5.11.3-4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5sensors5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5svg5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5texttospeech5/stable,now 5.11.3-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5waylandclient5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5waylandcompositor5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5webchannel5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5webkit5/stable,now 5.212.0~alpha2-21 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5widgets5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5x11extras5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqt5xml5/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtassistantclient4/stable,now 4.6.3-7+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtcore4/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtdbus4/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqtgui4/stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libqwt-qt5-6/stable,now 6.1.4-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
phonon4qt5-backend-vlc/stable,now 0.10.2-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
phonon4qt5/stable,now 4:4.10.2-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
pinentry-qt/stable,now 1.1.0-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
python-qt4/stable,now 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
python3-dbus.mainloop.qt/stable,now 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
python3-pyqt4/stable,now 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 amd64 [installed]
qt-at-spi/stable,now 0.4.0-9 amd64 [installed,automatic]
qt5-gtk-platformtheme/stable,now 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 amd64 [installed,automatic]
qtchooser/stable,now 66-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
qtcore4-l10n/stable,stable,now 4:4.8.7+dfsg-18+deb10u1 all [installed,automatic]
qttranslations5-l10n/stable,stable,now 5.11.3-2 all [installed,automatic]
qtwayland5/stable,now 5.11.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
vlc-plugin-qt/stable,stable-security,now 3.0.12-0+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
groucho@devuan:~$

But ...
Where did qtwayland5 come from?

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why qtwayland5
i   virtualbox-6.1 Depends  libqt5gui5 (>= 5.4.0)
i A libqt5gui5     Suggests qtwayland5           
groucho@devuan:~$

Suggests should be off by default.

dice wrote:

Do you use any kde apps?

Seems not ...

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep -i kde

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

libblockdev-crypto2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-fs2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-loop2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-part-err2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-part2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-swap2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev-utils2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libblockdev2/stable,now 2.20-7+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
groucho@devuan:~$

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

dice wrote:

... dont use backintime.
... see what happens when i install backintime.

Thanks.

dice wrote:

... elogind is the preferred choice over consolekit?

Don't know.

dice wrote:

... using the lxqt desktop maybe?

No, the XFCE that came by default with ASCII

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep xfce4

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
--- snip ---
xfce4/stable,stable,now 4.12.5 all [installed]
groucho@devuan:~$

dice wrote:

... no issues installing and using backintime-qt4 ...

Mine is not Qt:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep -i installed | grep backintime

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

backintime-common/stable,stable,now 1.1.24-0.1 all [installed,automatic]
backintime-qt4/stable,stable,now 1.1.24-0.1 all [installed]
groucho@devuan:~$

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

dice wrote:

That looks fairly normal to me. That should fix the libpolkit-qt5-1-1 issue, does it?

Don't know, havent tried.
The thing is that my Beowulf VM, which does not have BackInTime installed, does not have this problem:

root@devuan:~# uname -a
Linux devuan 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.171-2 (2021-01-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
root@devuan:~#

root@devuan:~# apt update && apt install -f && apt upgrade
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease
Get:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates InRelease [26.0 kB]
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease
Fetched 26.0 kB in 6s (4455 B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
root@devuan:~#

Seems that BackInTime needs this chain to be complete ...

[root@devuan ~]# 
aptitude why libpolkit-qt5-1-1
i   backintime-qt4       Depends  backintime-common (= 1.1.24-0.1)
i A backintime-common    Depends  python3-keyring                 
i A python3-keyring      Suggests libkf5wallet-bin                
i A libkf5wallet-bin     Depends  libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 4.96.0)
i A libkf5configwidgets5 Depends  libkf5auth5 (>= 4.96.0)         
i A libkf5auth5          Depends  libpolkit-qt5-1-1 (>= 0.112.0)  
[root@devuan ~]#

But then ...

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why-not  libpolkit-qt5-1-1
Automatically installed, current version 0.112.0-5, priority optional
The candidate version 0.112.0-6 has priority optional
No dependencies require to remove libpolkit-qt5-1-1        <-----------
groucho@devuan:~$

And ...

groucho@devuan:~$ aptitude why-not libpam-elogind
i   libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 Conflicts libpam-elogind
groucho@devuan:~$

The often unread Release Notes for Beowulf say:

Both slim and lightdm will work with either libpam-elogind or consolekit.
Slim is the default login manager for Xfce. Lightdm is the default for
the other desktops.

If No dependencies require to remove libpolkit-qt5-1-1 it may be worthwhile leaving things as they are for the time being.
It could be that the libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 conflict with libpam-elogind eventually gets sorted out. (?)

Makes sense?

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

rolfie wrote:

What happens on
apt full-upgrade
?

This:

[root@devuan ~]# apt full-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libpolkit-qt5-1-1
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[root@devuan ~]#

dice wrote:

why not apt update && apt dist-upgrade

Because it is the same thing in/with a different command?

[root@devuan ~]# apt update && apt dist-upgrade
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease
Get:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates InRelease [26.0 kB]
Fetched 26.0 kB in 2s (13.6 kB/s) 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libpolkit-qt5-1-1
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[root@devuan ~]#

I tried looking at reasons for this:

[root@devuan ~]# aptitude why libpolkit-qt5-1-1
i   backintime-qt4       Depends  backintime-common (= 1.1.24-0.1)
i A backintime-common    Depends  python3-keyring                 
i A python3-keyring      Suggests libkf5wallet-bin                
i A libkf5wallet-bin     Depends  libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 4.96.0)
i A libkf5configwidgets5 Depends  libkf5auth5 (>= 4.96.0)         
i A libkf5auth5          Depends  libpolkit-qt5-1-1 (>= 0.112.0)  
[root@devuan ~]#

[root@devuan ~]# apt install libpolkit-qt5-1-1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libpolkit-qt5-1-1 : Depends: libpam-systemd
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

So then I tried to see if I could install the missing dependency:

[root@devuan ~]# apt install libpam-systemd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done

Note, selecting 'libpam-elogind' instead of 'libpam-systemd'   <------------  this is the clue?

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libcgmanager0 liblz4-1:i386 libnih-dbus1 libnih1
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  elogind:i386 libacl1:i386 libattr1:i386 libelogind0 libelogind0:i386 libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0
Recommended packages:
  libpam-elogind:i386
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  consolekit libpam-ck-connector libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0 libsystemd0 libsystemd0:i386
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  elogind:i386 libacl1:i386 libattr1:i386 libelogind0 libelogind0:i386 libpam-elogind libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0
  libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0
0 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 6 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 1414 kB of archives.
After this operation, 2204 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.
[root@devuan ~]#

Now, seeing that I did an ASCII --> Beowulf dist-upgrade as per the pertinent instructions, why is this happening?
Was something missing in my ASCII?
Did I miss something whiole installing?

Do I have to install libpam-elogind?
Is consolekit no longer used?
I recall it was the one I had to use for the SLiM/XFCE combination.

Thanks you both for your input.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Ron wrote:

Do the movie sites use DRM?

What?
Not the ones I frequent ... 8^D !!!
uBlock Origin gets heavy use though.

https://yesmovies.ag/yes.html

Ron wrote:

Pale Moon does not and will not support DRM.

I don't go near any of those.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

I had been putting off upgrading from ASCII to Beowulf for the longest while but now it is done.
A new upgraded VirtualBox installation is in place and everything seems to be working.

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.171-2 (2021-01-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$

I did get an unasked for Firefox-ESR, maybe it is part of a metapackage from the ASCII installation?

What I cannot seem to find information on is libpolkit-qt5-1-1 being kept back:

[root@devuan ~]# apt update && apt install -f && apt upgrade
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libpolkit-qt5-1-1
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[root@devuan ~]#

Could anyone shed some light on this for me?

Thanks in advance,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

Altoid wrote:

Hello:
I'm having more problems with video feeds in Pale Moon 29.0.1 (64-bit).

I had been putting off upgrading from ASCII to Beowulf for the longest while.
The thought/possibilty of WINE/PMail/IrfanView or X acting up really put me off.

But then I saw Perseverance land on Mars (safely) and said to myself: iof NASA can do that, I can upgrade to Beowulf.

So ...

About maybe an hour or so later, here I am.

groucho@devuan:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.171-2 (2021-01-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
groucho@devuan:~$

A few configurations did not make it eg: custom terminal colours and window styles, but I'll manage.
Unfortunately, my VirtualBox installation went south. 8^-7
But that's for another thread.

With respect to Palemoon and the video feed problems: the one at the WP is fixed. It seems I can see it without problems.
But a couple of the movie sites I frequent still do not work.

It's still the same version 29.0.1 (64-bit) so it was not (?) a Pale Moon thing.
No idea what is missing.
Maybe some codec?

Just thought I'd send a heads up.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

dice wrote:

vlc is an option worth considering.

I have VLC installed.
Didn't know I could use it.

Thanks for the heads up. 8^D

A.

Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

I'd appreciate suggestions for a web radio streaming package, small lightweight and simple.
Lately my FM reception is giving me some grief.

TIA

A.

Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

dice wrote:

... getting truly off topic for this thread.

Indeed ...

As the OP, I quite agree.
Way off topic.

dice wrote:

...mods could be kind enough to split this off ...

+1

Thanks for bringing it up.

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

zapper wrote:

I can hear it, do you have any addons blocking the video?
Works for me even with my adblocker running.

No.
Only have uBlock Origin 1.16.4.28 running.
But I get the same if I turn it off.

On a hunch, I tried enabling MSE for MP4 video: I get the slow motion sound/video I reported the last time I posted about video feed problems with Pale Moon.

I enable MSE for WebM video, get the same "Please try a different browser" advice. 8^7

This is the latest Pale Moon available.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

A.

Altoid · Installation

Hello:

I'm having more problems with video feeds in Pale Moon 29.0.1 (64-bit).

Trying to see this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/?noredir … 2880468724

... I get this:

---
We’re sorry. Your browser does not support live video streaming.
Please try a different browser.
---

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

A.

Altoid · Desktop and Multimedia

Hello:

Ron wrote:

... Tools > Preferences > Content, and at the bottom uncheck "Enable MSE for MP4 video."

Oooooooooopsssssssss ...

Seems I'm really not ending this week on the right frequency. 8^|
Too much time cooped up?

In any case, after unchecking everything MSE, things are working properly again.

Indeed, thank you Ron.

Thanks to all for their input.
And sorry for the slip-ups.

Best,

A.

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