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#101 Off-topic » MX Linux Tools » 2020-06-28 13:09:51

HevyDevy
Replies: 2

This aimed at Hoas, just lurking over at debian user forums, im not a member and spotted this thread.

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=146083

Just wanted to ask if this would suitable for devuan and have you tried it with devuan?

Its interesting that steve pusser said they test on pure debian which is a good idea.

#102 Re: Installation » Errors encountered processing: libgstreamer-gl1.0-0_1.14.4-2_amd64.deb » 2020-06-28 10:14:57

Nice one Hoas, i didnt know arch-install-scripts were in the debian repos, this is archlinux port to debian hey?

#103 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How do you stop chromium asking for 'keyring password'? » 2020-06-25 15:49:54

dont use google chromium, sorry couldnt resist.

Might be something to do with gnome-keyring maybe?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME/Keyring

#104 Re: Other Issues » How to boot the minimal-live from USB? » 2020-06-25 15:32:00

The usb you are using might have an invalid signature.

What is the output of sudo wipefs /dev/sdX

sdX being your usb drive etc

#105 Re: Other Issues » How to boot the minimal-live from USB? » 2020-06-25 15:12:21

How do you clear the usb stick before you dd the iso?

Try below and see if works.

sudo wipefs --all /dev/sdX

sudo gdisk /dev/sdX

choose option X for expert menu then Z to Zap

Zap (destroy) the GPT data structures and exit. Use this option if you want to repartition a GPT disk using  fdisk  or
              some  other GPT-unaware program.  You'll be given the choice of preserving the existing MBR, in case it's a hybrid MBR
              with salvageable partitions or if you've already created new MBR partitions and want to erase the remnants of your GPT
              partitions.  If  you've  already  created  new MBR partitions, it's conceivable that this option will damage the first
              and/or last MBR partitions! Such an event is unlikely, but could occur if your new MBR partitions overlap the old  GPT
              data structures.

#106 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-25 00:09:39

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
HevyDevy wrote:

Tseems xserver-xorg-video-intel package provides the free as in freedom i915 driver

No, that package provides the Intel DDX driver. The kernel provides the i915 driver.

HevyDevy wrote:

you can go further and enable non-free drivers if you like from package firmware-misc-nonfree

There are no non-free Intel drivers. The firmware-misc-nonfree package provides the non-free firmware that is required by all recent Intel cards for full performance.

The parameters you are applying are for framebuffer compression (fbc, to reduce power consumption and memory bandwidth needed for screen refreshes) and to enable GuC/HuC firmware loading. Note that GuC/HuC firmware can cause freezing on some systems, which is why it is disabled by default.

Okay, so as it states in debian packages one could safely disregard xserver-xorg-video-intel if installed?

https://packages.debian.org/buster/xser … ideo-intel
The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use its builtin modesetting driver instead.

I should have said binary blob firmware not driver you are correct there. Ive not noticed any freezing on my system and it has been on for over 8 hours.  But yes as a precaution that gist i linked to says...

You will note that many options default to -1, resulting in per-chip power-saving defaults. It is however possible to configure more aggressive powersaving by using module options. Warning: Diverting from the defaults will mark the kernel as tainted from Linux 3.18 onwards. This basically implies using other options than the per-chip defaults is considered experimental and not supported by the developers.

#107 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-24 09:44:58

There is more to be done which i have just found out, seems xserver-xorg-video-intel package provides the free as in freedom i915 driver but you can go further and enable non-free drivers if you like from package firmware-misc-nonfree in either stable or backports.

This is how i did it if you are interested, but you must download  firmware-misc-nonfree and install the firmware first...

create the file /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf

add to it

options i915 enable_fbc=1 enable_guc=3

then do commands below

sudo update-initramfs -u
sudo update-grub

then reboot

check to see if i915 non-free (DRM) is loaded by doing below command

sudo dmesg | grep -iE "huc|guc|dmc"

source: https://gist.github.com/Brainiarc7/aa43 … dd835efe57

This is what should be shown more or less from the dmesg...

I installed firmware-misc-nonfree from backports.

 > ~$ sudo dmesg | grep -iE "huc|guc|dmc"
[    2.520372] Setting dangerous option enable_guc - tainting kernel
[    2.524202] i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware i915/bxt_dmc_ver1_07.bin
[    2.524446] [drm] Finished loading DMC firmware i915/bxt_dmc_ver1_07.bin (v1.7)
[    2.545629] i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware i915/bxt_guc_ver9_29.bin
[    2.545827] i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware i915/bxt_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin
[    2.548628] [drm] HuC: Loaded firmware i915/bxt_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin (version 1.7)
[    2.554733] [drm] GuC: Loaded firmware i915/bxt_guc_ver9_29.bin (version 9.29)
[    2.560310] i915 0000:00:02.0: GuC firmware version 9.29
[    2.560314] i915 0000:00:02.0: GuC submission enabled
[    2.560316] i915 0000:00:02.0: HuC enabled

Im actually getting better screen picture now, i was getting ghosting a bit but it seems to have gone!

#108 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-24 08:50:03

hi Berni51, are you sure there is no output from below command?

lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'

My nuc which is the same as yours says below.

lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5a85 (rev 0b)
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2067
        Kernel driver in use: i915
        Kernel modules: i915

or try lsmod

lsmod | grep i915

#109 Re: Installation » How can I install 'runit'? » 2020-06-23 15:32:28

You would need to install it once you have a bootable system with sysvinit or openrc thus replacing the init.

see here: http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3628

#110 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-23 14:06:47

here you go.

netinstall ...

 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

112.0 KiB +  61.5 KiB = 173.5 KiB	sleep
120.0 KiB +  62.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB	run-parts
 88.0 KiB + 115.5 KiB = 203.5 KiB	sh
100.0 KiB + 115.5 KiB = 215.5 KiB	apt-compat
216.0 KiB +  91.5 KiB = 307.5 KiB	anacron
300.0 KiB + 130.5 KiB = 430.5 KiB	init
312.0 KiB + 169.5 KiB = 481.5 KiB	cron
584.0 KiB + 282.5 KiB = 866.5 KiB	dbus-daemon
452.0 KiB + 419.5 KiB = 871.5 KiB	su
664.0 KiB + 319.5 KiB = 983.5 KiB	login
616.0 KiB + 672.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	getty (5)
  2.8 MiB + 330.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB	udevd
  2.8 MiB + 494.5 KiB =   3.3 MiB	bluetoothd
  2.1 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   3.6 MiB	bash (2)
  3.6 MiB + 258.5 KiB =   3.8 MiB	dhclient
  3.9 MiB + 121.5 KiB =   4.0 MiB	rsyslogd
---------------------------------
                         23.7 MiB
=================================

refracta install ...

 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program

124.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 171.5 KiB	acpi_fakekeyd
192.0 KiB +  86.5 KiB = 278.5 KiB	acpid
208.0 KiB +  72.5 KiB = 280.5 KiB	atd
224.0 KiB +  77.5 KiB = 301.5 KiB	gpm
324.0 KiB + 113.5 KiB = 437.5 KiB	init
316.0 KiB + 151.5 KiB = 467.5 KiB	cron
616.0 KiB + 266.5 KiB = 882.5 KiB	dbus-daemon
600.0 KiB + 681.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	getty (5)
  1.0 MiB + 312.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	login
  1.1 MiB + 404.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	sudo
  1.3 MiB + 254.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB	sshd
  1.6 MiB + 207.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	rsyslogd
  1.7 MiB + 113.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	elogind-daemon
  1.7 MiB + 252.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	ntpd
  2.4 MiB + 477.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	brltty
  2.6 MiB + 217.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	bash
  2.8 MiB + 263.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB	udevd
---------------------------------
                         22.7 MiB
=================================

Edit: the netinstall was as basic an install as you can get, just standard system utils and  nothing else under sysV as init on both. Looks like refracta installer is a bit better at user desired input like sudo, elogind-daemon and acpid etc, i suppose that is from what the live session uses as the install media for both live and netinstall differ a great deal in size. Still i dont see much of any resource hogging on either installs, but that is just my experience.

#111 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-23 13:35:58

its under non-free firmware, did you install from non-free or disable it somehow.

The NUC 6CAYB needs Intel "Broxton" GuC firmware as mentioned in below link.

https://packages.debian.org/buster/firm … sc-nonfree

But im pretty sure this should be automatically installed unless you chose not to install non-free firmware.

#112 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-23 12:58:57

berni51 wrote:

@rolfie: Thx, I will try. Anything special to consider?

@HevyDevy: simply grepping for VGA says:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5a85 (rev 0b)

Any many thx for all of your assistance so far.

Is that with Devuan or Archlinux?

#113 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-23 12:08:02

@HevyDevy: there is no text on the screen, totally black. And very often it happens, when I enter the login password into the slim dm.
lspci only says "not found" when looking for a VGA|3D|Display

Thats odd, that command should display something, mine displays what graphics hardware is used and the kernel driver and module in use which should be i915. Do what rolfie suggests and install the 5x kernel in backports, might fix the issue, might not?

#114 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-23 12:01:06

Ok i did some installs today.

one netinstall and one minimal live install on bare metal partitions multibooting.

Not much difference in the two in my opinion, slightly higher ram for refracta not much though only 5mb.

So uptime of 1 minute from bootup refracta install had 91 mb and netinstall had 86.

cpu usage was nominal on both same with processes at around 130 for both.

I did notice brltty was running as a top process on the refracta install and not on the netinstall, could this be a performance hit?

Edit: ill keep them installed for awhile if there is anything specific you would like to see fsmithred.

#115 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-23 09:21:36

by black screen is it completely black or is there text on screen as well like a kernel crash?

I have the same nuc as you except for less ram.  It might be something to do with the graphics or possibly a kernel parameter in use, have you added in any kernel parameters in /etc/sysctl.conf or in /etc/default/grub ?

What does below command say?

lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'

#116 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-22 15:11:26

fsmithred wrote:

Edit: interesting tidbit Jessie brought up in regards to the difference in the live installation and the install media, apparently the live installer which is refracta-installer gains 20% percent more resource usage over the devuan/debian installer?

I saw that, and I don't know what's causing it. The live does have some extra packages and some of those have scripts in /etc/init.d, but I don't see anything running in 'ps ax' such as live-boot or haveged. Maybe the difference is due to the desktop-live having gvfs-backends installed. I don't have two clean installs to compare right now, and I'm kinda burned out on installing.  Will have to remember to look at this later.

Ive enough bandwidth now to see if this is true or not, ill likely do some installs over the weekend.

#117 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf 3.0.0 is here! » 2020-06-22 13:23:47

Somewhat Reticent wrote:

Looks like it's been this week's DistroWatch Weekly review.

Pretty good review too, brings up some minor details like runit and the installer but overall pretty decent.

Edit: interesting tidbit Jessie brought up in regards to the difference in the live installation and the install media, apparently the live installer which is refracta-installer gains 20% percent more resource usage over the devuan/debian installer? Perhaps refracta is picking up more resources than it needs to in some instances?

#118 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Beowulf: quite good, but ...... » 2020-06-22 13:18:30

I run a NUC okay with devuan, what is the model you are using? Post up the system specifications of it.

#119 Re: Off-topic » desktop / workspaces » 2020-06-20 11:29:39

Yeah i think i will Hoas.

Tint2 is usable with yaxwm but the taskbar needs some work to get it to play nice, not very suited though but something could be hacked together using executors for sure, just not how im doing it probably lol!

Cheers

#120 Re: Off-topic » desktop / workspaces » 2020-06-20 10:16:22

I see, so my issue is with dwm as it is not compliant for _NET_WM_DESKTOP.

Ive discovered a new dwm like window manager called yaxwm that is from one of the devs at archlabs, im not a member there i just like browsing nix forums for new things.

So here is the wm https://bitbucket.org/natemaia/yaxwm/src/master/

Ive managed to get tint2 to display similar to dwm in yaxwm if i was hiding vacant tags or similar to standard i3wm statusbar.

see image here: https://i.postimg.cc/ZnydGdKP/2020-06-2 … -scrot.png

Im not using any taskbar in tint2 instead im using an executor and wmctrl to show me what workspace im on with below command.

wmctrl -d | grep "*" | awk '{print $9}'

Now ive kind of figured out how to list inactive workspace being used with below command, just need to figure out how to integrate it in some sort of script as i will need to factor in workspaces go from 0 - 10 - with 0 being the first workspace.

wmctrl -l | sed 's/^...........//g' | awk '{print $1}' | grep -o ^1

#121 Re: Off-topic » desktop / workspaces » 2020-06-20 06:56:43

Thanks Marjorie, i might have to see how some desktop environments do it.

thanks ralph but im interested in someway to list inactive desktops that are being used but hidden from view, similar to how dwm status bar shows all workspaces 1 - 9 but shows you inactive workspaces being used.

I believe wmctrl -l will just list active workspaces but not what workspace number is being used

So right now i have open workspace 1,2 and 9. 1 and 2 have the x-terminal-emulator open and 9 has firefox open.

0x00c00006  0 hostname st
0x00e00006  0 hostname st
0x01200003  0 hostname desktop / workspaces / Off-topic / Dev1 Galaxy Forum - Mozilla Firefox

it would be nice if wmctrl listed the inactive workspace numbers in above output.

Anyhow just curious and the more i think about what i want to achieve with tint2 the more i dont think it is possible. But ill show what ive done so far soon.

Edit: it also might be the window manager im using not having valid/compliant properties.

#122 Off-topic » desktop / workspaces » 2020-06-19 14:50:47

HevyDevy
Replies: 10

How would one find out what desktop or workspaces are currently in use except for the desktop/workspace in use.

Like for example im using workspace 1 and have xterm open there on screen and then i have say two more xterms open in 2 and 3. I want information on workspaces/desktops 2 and 3 not on screen via the terminal.

xdotool and wmctrl seem to only display info on currently showing or active desktop in use.

Ive been through the manpages on both and cant figure it out, any ideas?

Im trying to hack something together which is pretty cool and im nearly there.

edit: better terminology "list inactive desktops that have programs running"

#125 Off-topic » On this day - UNIX calender » 2020-06-16 15:12:16

HevyDevy
Replies: 5

On this day...

Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 alias ``buzz'' released, 1996 !!!

 > ~$ calendar
Jun 17  China explodes its first Hydrogen bomb, 1967
Jun 17  Watergate Democratic National Committee break-in, 1972
Jun 17  Bunker Hill Day in Suffolk County, Massachusetts
Jun 17  Independence Day in Iceland
Jun 17  Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 alias ``buzz'' released, 1996
Jun 17  Día Nacional de la Libertad Latinoamericana
Jun 17  Tilman Linneweh <arved@FreeBSD.org> born in Weinheim, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany, 1978
Jun 17  Aujourd'hui, c'est la St(e) Hervé.
Jun 17  Arbeiteraufstand am 17. Juni 1953
Jun 17  Arbeiteraufstand am 17. Juni 1953
Jun 17  Laura, Alida
Jun 17  Международный день телекоммуникаций
Jun 17  Международный день студентов
Jun 17  День ракетных войск стратегического назначения
Jun 18  M.C. Escher born, 1898
Jun 18  Evacuation Day in Egypt
Jun 18  Queen's Birthday in Fiji
Jun 18  Paul McCartney born in Liverpool, England, 1942
Jun 18  Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@FreeBSD.org> born in Taipei, Taiwan, Republic of China, 1984
Jun 18  Roman Bogorodskiy <novel@FreeBSD.org> born in Saratov, Russian Federation, 1986
Jun 18  N'oubliez pas les Léonce !
Jun 18  Niederlage Napoleons bei Waterloo, 1815
Jun 18  Arnold, Levente
Jun 18  День налоговой полиции
Jun 18  Международный день музеев
Jun 18  День победы русских воинов князя Александра Невского над немецкими рыцарями на Чудском озере (Ледовое побоище, 1242 год)
Jun 18* Свято тіла Христового
Jun 18  Waterloo Day

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