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This aimed at Hoas, just lurking over at debian user forums, im not a member and spotted this thread.
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=146083
Just wanted to ask if this would suitable for devuan and have you tried it with devuan?
Its interesting that steve pusser said they test on pure debian which is a good idea.
Nice one Hoas, i didnt know arch-install-scripts were in the debian repos, this is archlinux port to debian hey?
dont use google chromium, sorry couldnt resist.
Might be something to do with gnome-keyring maybe?
The usb you are using might have an invalid signature.
What is the output of sudo wipefs /dev/sdX
sdX being your usb drive etc
How do you clear the usb stick before you dd the iso?
Try below and see if works.
sudo wipefs --all /dev/sdX
sudo gdisk /dev/sdX
choose option X for expert menu then Z to Zap
Zap (destroy) the GPT data structures and exit. Use this option if you want to repartition a GPT disk using fdisk or
some other GPT-unaware program. You'll be given the choice of preserving the existing MBR, in case it's a hybrid MBR
with salvageable partitions or if you've already created new MBR partitions and want to erase the remnants of your GPT
partitions. If you've already created new MBR partitions, it's conceivable that this option will damage the first
and/or last MBR partitions! Such an event is unlikely, but could occur if your new MBR partitions overlap the old GPT
data structures.
HevyDevy wrote:Tseems xserver-xorg-video-intel package provides the free as in freedom i915 driver
No, that package provides the Intel DDX driver. The kernel provides the i915 driver.
HevyDevy wrote:you can go further and enable non-free drivers if you like from package firmware-misc-nonfree
There are no non-free Intel drivers. The firmware-misc-nonfree package provides the non-free firmware that is required by all recent Intel cards for full performance.
The parameters you are applying are for framebuffer compression (fbc, to reduce power consumption and memory bandwidth needed for screen refreshes) and to enable GuC/HuC firmware loading. Note that GuC/HuC firmware can cause freezing on some systems, which is why it is disabled by default.
Okay, so as it states in debian packages one could safely disregard xserver-xorg-video-intel if installed?
https://packages.debian.org/buster/xser … ideo-intel
The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use its builtin modesetting driver instead.
I should have said binary blob firmware not driver you are correct there. Ive not noticed any freezing on my system and it has been on for over 8 hours. But yes as a precaution that gist i linked to says...
You will note that many options default to -1, resulting in per-chip power-saving defaults. It is however possible to configure more aggressive powersaving by using module options. Warning: Diverting from the defaults will mark the kernel as tainted from Linux 3.18 onwards. This basically implies using other options than the per-chip defaults is considered experimental and not supported by the developers.
There is more to be done which i have just found out, seems xserver-xorg-video-intel package provides the free as in freedom i915 driver but you can go further and enable non-free drivers if you like from package firmware-misc-nonfree in either stable or backports.
This is how i did it if you are interested, but you must download firmware-misc-nonfree and install the firmware first...
create the file /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf
add to it
options i915 enable_fbc=1 enable_guc=3
then do commands below
sudo update-initramfs -u
sudo update-grub
then reboot
check to see if i915 non-free (DRM) is loaded by doing below command
sudo dmesg | grep -iE "huc|guc|dmc"
source: https://gist.github.com/Brainiarc7/aa43 … dd835efe57
This is what should be shown more or less from the dmesg...
I installed firmware-misc-nonfree from backports.
> ~$ sudo dmesg | grep -iE "huc|guc|dmc"
[ 2.520372] Setting dangerous option enable_guc - tainting kernel
[ 2.524202] i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware i915/bxt_dmc_ver1_07.bin
[ 2.524446] [drm] Finished loading DMC firmware i915/bxt_dmc_ver1_07.bin (v1.7)
[ 2.545629] i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware i915/bxt_guc_ver9_29.bin
[ 2.545827] i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware i915/bxt_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin
[ 2.548628] [drm] HuC: Loaded firmware i915/bxt_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin (version 1.7)
[ 2.554733] [drm] GuC: Loaded firmware i915/bxt_guc_ver9_29.bin (version 9.29)
[ 2.560310] i915 0000:00:02.0: GuC firmware version 9.29
[ 2.560314] i915 0000:00:02.0: GuC submission enabled
[ 2.560316] i915 0000:00:02.0: HuC enabled
Im actually getting better screen picture now, i was getting ghosting a bit but it seems to have gone!
hi Berni51, are you sure there is no output from below command?
lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'
My nuc which is the same as yours says below.
lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5a85 (rev 0b)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 2067
Kernel driver in use: i915
Kernel modules: i915
or try lsmod
lsmod | grep i915
You would need to install it once you have a bootable system with sysvinit or openrc thus replacing the init.
here you go.
netinstall ...
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
112.0 KiB + 61.5 KiB = 173.5 KiB sleep
120.0 KiB + 62.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB run-parts
88.0 KiB + 115.5 KiB = 203.5 KiB sh
100.0 KiB + 115.5 KiB = 215.5 KiB apt-compat
216.0 KiB + 91.5 KiB = 307.5 KiB anacron
300.0 KiB + 130.5 KiB = 430.5 KiB init
312.0 KiB + 169.5 KiB = 481.5 KiB cron
584.0 KiB + 282.5 KiB = 866.5 KiB dbus-daemon
452.0 KiB + 419.5 KiB = 871.5 KiB su
664.0 KiB + 319.5 KiB = 983.5 KiB login
616.0 KiB + 672.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB getty (5)
2.8 MiB + 330.5 KiB = 3.1 MiB udevd
2.8 MiB + 494.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB bluetoothd
2.1 MiB + 1.6 MiB = 3.6 MiB bash (2)
3.6 MiB + 258.5 KiB = 3.8 MiB dhclient
3.9 MiB + 121.5 KiB = 4.0 MiB rsyslogd
---------------------------------
23.7 MiB
=================================
refracta install ...
Private + Shared = RAM used Program
124.0 KiB + 47.5 KiB = 171.5 KiB acpi_fakekeyd
192.0 KiB + 86.5 KiB = 278.5 KiB acpid
208.0 KiB + 72.5 KiB = 280.5 KiB atd
224.0 KiB + 77.5 KiB = 301.5 KiB gpm
324.0 KiB + 113.5 KiB = 437.5 KiB init
316.0 KiB + 151.5 KiB = 467.5 KiB cron
616.0 KiB + 266.5 KiB = 882.5 KiB dbus-daemon
600.0 KiB + 681.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB getty (5)
1.0 MiB + 312.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB login
1.1 MiB + 404.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB sudo
1.3 MiB + 254.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB sshd
1.6 MiB + 207.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB rsyslogd
1.7 MiB + 113.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB elogind-daemon
1.7 MiB + 252.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB ntpd
2.4 MiB + 477.5 KiB = 2.8 MiB brltty
2.6 MiB + 217.5 KiB = 2.8 MiB bash
2.8 MiB + 263.5 KiB = 3.1 MiB udevd
---------------------------------
22.7 MiB
=================================
Edit: the netinstall was as basic an install as you can get, just standard system utils and nothing else under sysV as init on both. Looks like refracta installer is a bit better at user desired input like sudo, elogind-daemon and acpid etc, i suppose that is from what the live session uses as the install media for both live and netinstall differ a great deal in size. Still i dont see much of any resource hogging on either installs, but that is just my experience.
its under non-free firmware, did you install from non-free or disable it somehow.
The NUC 6CAYB needs Intel "Broxton" GuC firmware as mentioned in below link.
https://packages.debian.org/buster/firm … sc-nonfree
But im pretty sure this should be automatically installed unless you chose not to install non-free firmware.
@rolfie: Thx, I will try. Anything special to consider?
@HevyDevy: simply grepping for VGA says:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5a85 (rev 0b)Any many thx for all of your assistance so far.
Is that with Devuan or Archlinux?
@HevyDevy: there is no text on the screen, totally black. And very often it happens, when I enter the login password into the slim dm.
lspci only says "not found" when looking for a VGA|3D|Display
Thats odd, that command should display something, mine displays what graphics hardware is used and the kernel driver and module in use which should be i915. Do what rolfie suggests and install the 5x kernel in backports, might fix the issue, might not?
Ok i did some installs today.
one netinstall and one minimal live install on bare metal partitions multibooting.
Not much difference in the two in my opinion, slightly higher ram for refracta not much though only 5mb.
So uptime of 1 minute from bootup refracta install had 91 mb and netinstall had 86.
cpu usage was nominal on both same with processes at around 130 for both.
I did notice brltty was running as a top process on the refracta install and not on the netinstall, could this be a performance hit?
Edit: ill keep them installed for awhile if there is anything specific you would like to see fsmithred.
by black screen is it completely black or is there text on screen as well like a kernel crash?
I have the same nuc as you except for less ram. It might be something to do with the graphics or possibly a kernel parameter in use, have you added in any kernel parameters in /etc/sysctl.conf or in /etc/default/grub ?
What does below command say?
lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'
Edit: interesting tidbit Jessie brought up in regards to the difference in the live installation and the install media, apparently the live installer which is refracta-installer gains 20% percent more resource usage over the devuan/debian installer?
I saw that, and I don't know what's causing it. The live does have some extra packages and some of those have scripts in /etc/init.d, but I don't see anything running in 'ps ax' such as live-boot or haveged. Maybe the difference is due to the desktop-live having gvfs-backends installed. I don't have two clean installs to compare right now, and I'm kinda burned out on installing. Will have to remember to look at this later.
Ive enough bandwidth now to see if this is true or not, ill likely do some installs over the weekend.
Looks like it's been this week's DistroWatch Weekly review.
Pretty good review too, brings up some minor details like runit and the installer but overall pretty decent.
Edit: interesting tidbit Jessie brought up in regards to the difference in the live installation and the install media, apparently the live installer which is refracta-installer gains 20% percent more resource usage over the devuan/debian installer? Perhaps refracta is picking up more resources than it needs to in some instances?
I run a NUC okay with devuan, what is the model you are using? Post up the system specifications of it.
Yeah i think i will Hoas.
Tint2 is usable with yaxwm but the taskbar needs some work to get it to play nice, not very suited though but something could be hacked together using executors for sure, just not how im doing it probably lol!
Cheers
I see, so my issue is with dwm as it is not compliant for _NET_WM_DESKTOP.
Ive discovered a new dwm like window manager called yaxwm that is from one of the devs at archlabs, im not a member there i just like browsing nix forums for new things.
So here is the wm https://bitbucket.org/natemaia/yaxwm/src/master/
Ive managed to get tint2 to display similar to dwm in yaxwm if i was hiding vacant tags or similar to standard i3wm statusbar.
see image here: https://i.postimg.cc/ZnydGdKP/2020-06-2 … -scrot.png
Im not using any taskbar in tint2 instead im using an executor and wmctrl to show me what workspace im on with below command.
wmctrl -d | grep "*" | awk '{print $9}'
Now ive kind of figured out how to list inactive workspace being used with below command, just need to figure out how to integrate it in some sort of script as i will need to factor in workspaces go from 0 - 10 - with 0 being the first workspace.
wmctrl -l | sed 's/^...........//g' | awk '{print $1}' | grep -o ^1
Thanks Marjorie, i might have to see how some desktop environments do it.
thanks ralph but im interested in someway to list inactive desktops that are being used but hidden from view, similar to how dwm status bar shows all workspaces 1 - 9 but shows you inactive workspaces being used.
I believe wmctrl -l will just list active workspaces but not what workspace number is being used
So right now i have open workspace 1,2 and 9. 1 and 2 have the x-terminal-emulator open and 9 has firefox open.
0x00c00006 0 hostname st
0x00e00006 0 hostname st
0x01200003 0 hostname desktop / workspaces / Off-topic / Dev1 Galaxy Forum - Mozilla Firefox
it would be nice if wmctrl listed the inactive workspace numbers in above output.
Anyhow just curious and the more i think about what i want to achieve with tint2 the more i dont think it is possible. But ill show what ive done so far soon.
Edit: it also might be the window manager im using not having valid/compliant properties.
How would one find out what desktop or workspaces are currently in use except for the desktop/workspace in use.
Like for example im using workspace 1 and have xterm open there on screen and then i have say two more xterms open in 2 and 3. I want information on workspaces/desktops 2 and 3 not on screen via the terminal.
xdotool and wmctrl seem to only display info on currently showing or active desktop in use.
Ive been through the manpages on both and cant figure it out, any ideas?
Im trying to hack something together which is pretty cool and im nearly there.
edit: better terminology "list inactive desktops that have programs running"
im from the future
there is openssh-portable but you would have to build it yourself.
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