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#101 Installation » Partitioning schemes separate var and usr and boot 4 unfussy root? » 2021-04-10 08:48:52

MLEvD
Replies: 10

How do you like to partition things? I like to have /var and /usr and /boot on separate partitions. This way, root only needs 600MB and only has 7,395ish files to check on boot. Am I being pointless? I certainly feels good this way.

Also, /opt is separate, for installing firefox and nuking whole partition after for privacy.

#102 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Packages in Synaptic that are 'Held Back' (how to fix that?) » 2021-04-08 09:38:38

I've just done another upgrade from LMDE3 (stretch) with sysv installed, to Beowulf.
Not without first removing the desktop and xorg so around 300 packages remained. Left mint artwork installed, hoping it would become default when installing desktop after upgrade.
Mint artwork upgrade kept complaining, and every time I tried to fix it, something else got fixed. By the time I realised mint-artwork was complaining about no g-knob to hang off, not pinned legacy artwork, the 5 upgrade cycles had fixed all the longin-d console-c**t system-D*** wafflewamble for me.

When LMDE was created, everything was installed with recommends and set to manual. Only by completely removing and reinstalling, can the true svelt be achieved.

#103 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-07 19:46:16

fsmithred wrote:

Are you using 'allow-hotplug' or 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces? Whichever one you're using, you could try the other and see if it makes a difference.

Tried it, same delay but more verbose! Should I maybe sneak a sneaky init v2.96 off chimaera? That fixed it on the last install!

#104 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-07 17:13:21

Cribbed off of https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse

source-directory /etc/network/interfaces.d

#
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

#
allow-hotplug wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
        wpa-ssid ***************
        wpa-psk ********************************************************

#105 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-07 13:50:41

fsmithred wrote:

Are you using 'allow-hotplug' or 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces? Whichever one you're using, you could try the other and see if it makes a difference.

I'm using allow-hotplug. Do I just replace that with auto and keep the rest the same?

#106 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-04-06 11:56:56

Nili wrote:
MLEvD wrote:

LMDE4 on an asus eee pc with sysvinit and chimaera.

Bro, It is amazing that Linux still rocks at 100MB even on a DE. Congrat on your attempt and achievement.

I've had them actually running deadbeef, playing music, using less than 100MB ram with a desktop!

Also fits on and runs on 2GiB ssd eee pc 2G surf, but needs to go on a 4G for distribution upgrades, unless upgrading packages one at a time.

#107 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-04-05 21:13:45

LMDE4 on an asus eee pc with sysvinit and chimaera.

https://i.postimg.cc/9X49MxTN/Screenshot-from-2021-04-05-18-28-39.png

Sorry, can't figure out how to make image appear here.

#108 Re: Freedom Hacks » Debbowulf is not to be confused with Beomint » 2021-04-05 20:38:04

Maybe I should ask the mate desktop user group on facebook?

#109 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Hard freeze on Cinnamon desktop » 2021-04-05 17:46:17

Log out and log in in software rendering mode, if it doesn't happen here, you know it's a graphics driver problem, my guess would be.

#110 Re: Off-topic » what music are you listening to RIGHT NOW? » 2021-04-05 16:11:00

[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=51
1=Survivor_Eye of the tiger.ogg
2=Evanescence - Bring Me To Life (Album Version).ogg
3=all about eve-keepsakes cd1/18 what kind of fool 2006.mp3
4=Beatles vs GNR - Sgt Pepper's Paradise (Extended Edition).mp3
5=Avril Lavigne - Complicated.ogg
6=jane's addiction - jane says.ogg
7=The Chaos Engine - Nerve Opera.ogg
8=sonic youth - Kissability.mp3
9=celldweller - the last firstborn.ogg
10=brian adams - Heaven.ogg
11=Evanescence - Going Under (Album Version).ogg
12=Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal.ogg
13=Faith No More - From Out of Nowhere.ogg
14=nada surf - popular.mp3
15=Mean Mary - Iron Horse.mp3
16=Avril Lavigne - Sk8er Boi.ogg
17=Garbage - Only Happy When it Rains.ogg
18=Jane's Addiction - No One's Leaving.ogg
19=appetite for destruction/welcome to the jungle.ogg
20=NIN/pretty hate machine/Head Like A Hole.ogg
21=brian adams - Summer Of '69.ogg
22=No Doubt - Don't Speak (Album Version).ogg
23=snuff (snuff said) - i think we're alone now.mp3
24=Sean Paul - Uptown Haters Skit.ogg
25=Praga Khan - Injected with a Poison [Digital Orgasm Radio Mix].ogg
26=appetite for destruction/paradise city.ogg
27=The Cult - Love - She Sells Sanctuary.flac
28=Skunk Anansie - Weak.ogg
29=New Model Army - I Love The World.ogg
30=placebo - johnny & mary (robert palmer).mp3
31=nevermind/(Nirvana) - Lithium.ogg
32=mia - pull_up_the_people.ogg
33=sonic youth - (i got a) catholic block.mp3
34=Avril Lavigne - I'm With You.ogg
35=sonic youth - schizophrenia.mp3
36=Nirvana - Where Did You Sleep Last Night-.ogg
37=big black - colombian necktie.ogg
38=Fields of the Nephilim-Dawnrazor-Reanimator.ogg
39=mega city four - miles apart.mp3
40=Rekindle - Ice Skating Girl.ogg
41=That Petrol Emotion - The Peel Sessions/Lettuce.mp3
42=celldweller - switchback.ogg
43=Apollo 440 - Aint Talkin bout Dub.mp3
44=Shakira - Whenever, Wherever.ogg
45=slayer - raining blood.ogg
46=Pop Will Eat Itself - Inside You.ogg
47=Bauhaus - Ziggy Stardust.mp3
48=The Wedding Present - Shatner.ogg
49=Made In Japan [1972] Deep Purple - Highway Star.mp3
50=Hawkwind Live Seventy Nine/Master of the Universe.mp3
51=brian adams - Run To You.ogg

#111 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-05 16:04:00

Solved! While chatting was upgrading Debbowulf (LMDE4+Beowulf) to chimaera

Init 2.96, and it booted so quickly I thought it had failed, but no. I had failed. It connected just fine!

Failed to be patient and trust the next version of init.
Now, how do I hack mate-menu to get my 0.8 opacity back and customise the icon?
Actually, patience. There is a bug. Unchecking 'Show button icon' does not remove the icon, even after reboot!

#112 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-05 15:55:02

Cost less than $20 each on ebay and the earlier ones have really good sound cards, being unable to compete with apple on anything else at the time.
If you have six, that's 18hrs  battery!

#113 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-05 15:39:42

I have a few. Currently messing around with a 701sd. It's got 1 GB ram and 7.5 GiB ssd but I'm only using half, creating images for use on 700 2G and 4G models.
I have a few eee pc. Which ones are you interested in? I have an x101ch called ek9 who spends all her time compressing the images for me for archiving. There are a few 4G which I use three at a time as audio receiver, player, clock, and digital picture frames.

#115 Re: Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-05 15:04:30

I use a picture of a nice full four full bars of signal from network manager as a background picture for my transparent panel.
To give it it's dues, this one is coming out of hibernation with it''s wifi working. I'm using eee pc  with legacy boot and rather slow ssd drives. Out of hibernation takes around 25 seconds from cold. Full boot under systemd, around 30 seconds.
Systemd-analyze blame suggested the actual time from init to graphical target was around 6 seconds.

#116 Installation » Ifup wifi connect at boot - sysv 5 to 7 seconds slower » 2021-04-05 14:52:35

MLEvD
Replies: 14

I have prepared a base of LMDE3 Cindy with dual boot - Sysv as first option, Systemd as second option
I can upgrade this base to either debian or devuan, to give one or the other init systems.
Using network manager, both sysv and systemd connect fairly instantly at boot.
However, using ifup to connect, sysv is noticeably, 5 to 8 seconds perhaps, slower to connect. Systemd connects instantly.
Under network manager, sysv boots around 5 seconds faster, under ifup slightly slower.

How do you speed this up?

#117 Re: Freedom Hacks » Debbowulf is not to be confused with Beomint » 2021-04-05 14:38:56

This might help  - https://git.devuan.org/AntoFox/mate-media

If I'm combining guessing with laziness and getting it right, devuan has it's own version of mate-media?

#118 Re: Freedom Hacks » Debbowulf is not to be confused with Beomint » 2021-04-04 16:47:49

If it's any help, I made the mistake of netinstalling 3.1 instead of 3.0 yesterday. In 3.1 the audio settings persistence is even worse, it doesn't save volume setting!
In my humble opinion, devuan brain central needs to have a good look at this area, it appears to be loosing settings at a rate of one per release.
ASCII was fine on audio but not great on power manager notification icons.

I noticed systemd launching an alsa-restore service on LMDE3 yesterday, if that helps?

#119 Re: Freedom Hacks » Debbowulf is not to be confused with Beomint » 2021-04-03 07:07:07

Package mate-session-manager requires an artwork package as a dependency so Debbowulf has mint-artwork instead. You can't have both.

No amount of substitution or comparison can tell me what is going on. I'm rather afraid someone with the right skills might have to slap a stacktracedebuggersteptrhroughdump on it to see where it is being saved.

Start with Ascii. Where is ascii saving it. What changed in Beowulf?

#120 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Does Lightdm work now with Devuan? » 2021-04-02 17:14:29

I'm using lightdm with slick greeter in Debbowulf. Seems to work ok though I notice the login screen shows when shutting down under sysv, which is wasn't doing under systemd in LMDE2 and 3 before the upgrade to Debbie/Beowulf

#121 Re: Freedom Hacks » Debbowulf is not to be confused with Beomint » 2021-04-02 16:42:54

http://paste.debian.net/1192123 - Debbowulf. LMDE2 upgraded to LMDE3 upgraded to Devuan/Debbie. Only mint artwork and credentials remain. Even mintsystem and mintmenu are gone.

http://paste.debian.net/1192122 - Beomint. Essentially a Beo netinstall with mint-x-icons, mint-y-icons, and mint-themes. (This is my testing box. Couldn't get ifup working under runit so network-manager is temporary here.

If it helps, swapping the pulse config files over does not fix the bug! Also, bug happens under runit.

#122 Re: Freedom Hacks » Debbowulf is not to be confused with Beomint » 2021-04-01 17:55:58

Thank you, I will, and may I ask why?
There appears to be no difference in relevant packages, I simply cannot fathom where the error lies.
If it was the config files that come with devuan's pulse or mate, then would these not have broken the upgraded version, debbowulf? Debian netinst converted to Beowulf does not have the bug. Antix doesn't have the bug. Even Ascii doesn't have the bug!

#123 Freedom Hacks » Debbowulf is not to be confused with Beomint » 2021-04-01 10:51:44

MLEvD
Replies: 11

It must be a lot of hassle to install LMDE2, apt-mark hold sysvinit-core, Mintupgrade to LMDE3, then point repos to LMDE Debbie and Devuan Beowulf and upgrade to debian 10 based actual LMDE4 with sysvinit and devuan package base. This is debowulf.

You could just install Beowulf and add Mint artwork and almost everything else, for a lot less hassle. This is Beomint.

Beomint does not save the device profile in mate-media, just like Beowulf.
Debbowulf does not have this bug.

I tried to report the bug but didn't have any success and I'm worried it might not get fixed at all?

#124 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Why I have to have a desktop and hope I am wrong. » 2021-03-27 06:31:52

zapper wrote:
MLEvD wrote:

Asus 701.
630mhz celeron M, single core.
512mb ram
Max 30mb/s read speed off disk, more like 1mb/s for random small read/write

The gaps feel like the music stops for a very brief time before continuing. It's not right!

Hmm, if that's your laptop, no wonder...

I recommend using something extremely lightweight such as i3-wm or equivalent.

Just my two cents...

Cheers, but the thing is, I can get the mate desktop idling at around 100MB and it looks fine with little effort. My interest in the slower machines is purely about battery life. with six batteries, 4 hrs each headless, that's a whole day. With the desktop it's 3.5 hrs each.

#125 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Keeping LMDE4 in Beowulf? » 2021-03-19 16:18:00

P.S, as for systemd not being in the repo, I have a 3.5GB partition on a lego brick USB mounted as /var/cache/apt/archives which has most of the files from upgrades from LMDE 2 to 4, and  lot of devuan files too now. This saves time and bandwidth, and allows me to easily roll back if a much-loved feature is removed (mate-menu gets worse each release).

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