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My turning point with Systemd was when it slowed down my surfing by taking over the resolver. Systemd created a lag and it was unacceptable to me. I already knew about its history and Poettering, so since then I've been waiting to transition completely to Devuan.
You need the dev-files. As quoted here:
There are many compilation dependencies. The configure script will tell
you what is missing. At the least, you will need development versions of
these libraries. Append "-dev" or "-devel" to most of these:perl pkg-config gettext intltool libx11 libxext libxi libxt libxft
libxinerama libxrandr libxxf86vm libgl libglu libgle libgtk-3-0
libgdk-pixbuf2.0 libjpeg libxml2 libpam libsystemd elogind
from here:
You need the UUID's of the different disks/partitions. In a terminal as root use the command blkid and note the required UUID's you need. Then , as root, edit the file /etc/fstab and add the needed UUID's.
Example line from /etc/fstab:
UUID=9acd7886-5bd7-4fa4-a7e7-63b80c64f28c /mnt/GAMES ext4 auto,rw,async,exec,suid,noatime 0 2In this example it's in reality my partition /dev/sdc3 which is mounted with its UUID in fstab instead.
More about fstab: https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/f … %20enabled.
Solved by upgrading to Daedalus. Surprisingly smooth and easy!
Thanks all Devuan guys and gals!
Setting up a machine for Steam gaming with Nvidia 1070 card and I can only get 470.x driver. What's the best way to get Nvidia 535.x driver on Chimaera? I don't do Wayland and I'm not ready to upgrade to Daedalus (I think).
This is my third active Devuan machine, so terminal is not any problem.
Did you try
pkexec synaptic?
It's worth the wait. Without question. As I see it, there are some fundamental differences between Debian and Devuan that needs extra care and attention. So I'm happy to wait.
I've come across it today. A bit of a scare actually.
Given that a .deb file is an ar archive file containing two .tar.gz files it might be within scope for you to repackage things yourself.
Yeah, but I forgot how to do it. I could possibly unpack debs and unzst them, and then repack them as new debs.
Where can I find good guides on that?
Thanks for the help guys!
I've collected deb packages from all over. It's mainly addons to my DAW (plugins). So they are not mission critical nor damaging to the system. Most install in /home/user as well. I've been seeing more and more zst archives lately, so I'm glad we have zstd at least.
I've recently tried to install deb packages containing zst-archives and failed. I have zstd installed (Chimeara).
What can I do? I can unpack zst archives in terminal, but Gdebi and Dpkg fails.
I don't mind hacking the deb packages if only I knew how to do it. Must be some way...
My 2 cents: create a Samba share on your Devuan machine. Then connect to that from your phone. For Android there are lots of Windows/Samba apps and you can then easily connect and copy your stuff to and from the phone. Backup of your Contacts and Messages, you can do elsewhere.
Very interesting thread! I'm nobody from the middle of nowhere, but I'm following this.
Aside from the possible dangers of AI in itself, isn't it also about the trust of the companies and organisations developing it? I don't trust them at all. I think they're a bunch of 25-year olds without connection to reality. Without life experience. They went straight thru school and got their Ph. D. They got the worlds best education but they are still narrow minded. They've got horse blinders on and can't see the whole picture.
Just because you can do a thing, should you do it? My doubts are that they can not handle the morals and ethics of it.
My 2 cents..
My big migration from soon outdated Ubuntu 18.04 to Devuan Chimaera is coming up. I've been planning this for years, since it is on my main, daily used 24//7, machine.
Somehow I couldn't edit the first post here, but one thing is out and that is Wicd. It isn't supported anymore (outdated Python deps, I understand)
Work in progress...
It was the old Sony TV that was grumpy. Changed to a Philips a tad newer and grub menu is visible again.
I've got two screens connected, one Sony TV 32" (old LCD) and one noname 17" regular PC screen. The problem is before login when it seems like the system alters between the two at boot, before login. After login in Xfce - no problem.
So I can't see the grub menu. I'm sure it's there but for that brief moment the screen is black. It's no biggie because , if needed, I can disconnect one of the screens and I'm sure I'll see the grub menu again.
What can I do with the configs, grub or whatever, before boot?
Downloading Librewolf as we speak....
( https://librewolf.net/installation/debian/ )
I looked for Librewolf but it's not in the repos?
Are you trying Chimaera or Beowulf ? I had sort of same problems with Chimaera booting from USB but I prepared the USB stick with Beowulf instead, and it worked. Beowulf is easy to upgrade immediately to Chimarea if you want to. No problems since.
Must report success! Set up my DAW with Devuan couple of weeks ago replacing PCLinuxOS. Got JACK 2 and Qjackctl plus Reaper/Midi/Audio working wihtout too much hazzle. Of course without Pulseaudio and no Pipewire either.
But no sound in Firefox or Chrome. No biggie but it is nice to be able to listen to youtube tracks/music on your DAW.
I finally solved it after hours of googling and several .asoundrc versions.
This is the .asoundrc that fixed it:
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave { pcm "jack" }
}
pcm.jack {
type jack
playback_ports {
0 system:playback_1
1 system:playback_2
}
capture_ports {
0 system:capture_1
1 system:capture_2
}
}
ctl.mixer0 {
type hw
card 0
}Not using apulse either. Jack2 and Qjackctl are running at boot and voilá sound in Firefox-esr! No sound in google chrome or chromium yet, but that's ok.
I did check though, that the proper audio interface was default card 0. I also double checked that the DAW, Reaper, worked, and it did.
Just wanna share if some other Devuan fan running JACK encounters the same problem.
EDIT: Holy Crap!! There IS sound in Google Chrome too!!! Just needed to restart it.
Keywords: alsa, asoundrc, firefox, chrome, jack, jack2, daw, reaper
Thanks guys!
I just got my new used PC and moved the SSD with my Devuan install and success! It booted right away!
Newer Bios:es are scary with Secure Boot, UEFI, TPM and stuff but I looked thru the bios settings beforehand and legacy boot seemed activated.
This is my DAW machine and everything worked; second HD, USB audio card, ethernet, and best of all - both my screens worked as well. Almost no config at all.
It's an HP PRODESK 600 G2, i7. Bought it from a company for about 250 EUR/260 USD.
So Devuan is the thing!
Thanks!
I just made the transition from an outdated and botched PC Linux OS installation to Devuan. It was on my music studio desktop machine.
After some tinkering I now got Jack, QJackctl and Reaper running with an USB Midi Keyboard and a Focusrite 2in4 audio interface. Latency is OK, but I will try the RT kernel and see if it can fix a tiny bit better latency on my old machine. And two screens directly at first boot!
Thanks Dev Team!
PS. I've been using Ubuntu since 2007 and I really do not like the way it's going. Systemd is NOT good!
PPS I do not have Windows at home (pun intended) ![]()
I've just recently migrated a machine from Ubuntu Mate 18.04 to Devuan Beowulf Xfce. It was quite a challange but very rewarding indeed. I now have a fully functional Devuan Beowulf Xfce install running with threaded network, Samba and more.
I'd like to put together a small guide for this, since there hopefully are more Ubuntu users that might want to do this. (I have no previous experience with Debian at all, but with Ubuntu since 2007. And Arch for a while)
But initially I have some thoughts about the information I gathered.
I mainly tried to follow two sources, here:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … e-to-ascii
and here:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2796
Both those two sources start from a Debian install, not Ubuntu, which is of course as it should be. But it might give some problems along the way. On the one hand, as an Ubuntu user, you're used to the structure of repos and sources.list, and apt/aptitude/synaptic. On the other hand, Debian differs on some points like; it seems that apt can do different things on Debian vs Ubuntu, and definitely that the Debian repos you might have from the start differs from the Ubuntu repos you have (it's a given of course).
Thoughts about the guide Migrate to ASCII (link above):
If you are an Ubuntu 18.04 user, which should be fairly common since it's LTS, there are big differences compared to a Debian Jessie or Stretch install. The init system for one, and the contents of the repos for another. So some commands are not possible like update-rc.d and I don't think you can install sysvinit-core from the Ubuntu repos anymore. I got stuck on installing the keyring, which was a bummer. It was this command:
"apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated"that just didn't work. As I remember the Ubuntu version of apt didn't recognize "--allow-unauthenticated".
So then I found the second thread here on this forum (link above) and could download the keyring deb-file and install it. That was the key
and I could continue as outlaid in the thread. Pretty much anyway.
At the start I made sure I had Xfce installed and running. I also made sure I had the package ifupdown installed. I kept lightdm, since it has a good history with Xfce. Then I edited sources.list and entered the Beowulf repo "main" only. And the process started. There were several "aptitude -f install" quite a few in fact. Very fun and challenging actually!
Based on my experience migrating from 18.04 to Beowulf I've started to form a small newbie guide in theory, as a work in progress. It would start something like this (just an outline/synopsis):
* Backup all your data
* Uninstall ALL unnecessary apps and librarys. And then some. You can reinstall them later.
* Install Wicd and ifupdown. (possibly resolvconf?)
* Edit sources.list
* update
* upgrade - aptitude safe-upgrade is a good start.
* Read the screen messages and be prepared with coffee or beer
Any thoughts or comments? Please fell free to add or subtract.
I'm concerned about the release of Ubuntu 20.04. There's only talk about icons, themes and wallpapers. No debate about the underlying structure of systemd. During the years I've seen systemd encompassing more and more of the system and I don't like it at all.
How do you think a nice migration guide from Ubuntu to Devuan should be?